War round up

by datechguy | December 28th, 2008

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War round up

Well all kind of round ups are tak­ing place over the hits of Gaza this week and there are quite a few sur­prises. Lets start a Pow­er­line Blog.

In Call­ing Hamas pt 2 they look at the tac­tic of hid­ing being civilians:

The video vividly illus­trates how Hamas uses civil­ians as shields against a humane enemy, mak­ing the avoid­ance of civil­ian casu­al­ties vir­tu­ally impos­si­ble. Hamas’ con­duct is ille­gal and evil. Under the cir­cum­stances, the Bush administration’s instruc­tion to Israel to avoid civil­ian casu­al­ties at best rep­re­sents a kind of con­fu­sion regard­ing the chal­lenges Israel faces on each of its bor­ders. The chal­lenges are akin to those the United States faces in its own engage­ments in the region, so it is hard to believe that the prob­lem is one of intel­lec­tual clar­ity rather than polit­i­cal cowardice.

They also touch upon cov­er­age and attempts to scrub things in Hamas’ favor. Ref­er­enc­ing the blogs Mere Rhetoric and I*Consult. Note also this post at I*consult con­cern­ing the Wash­ing­ton Post ended up pulling some “fake” pho­tog­ra­phy.

Pow­er­line fur­ther notes that the Arab gov­ern­ments are not fol­low­ing as blindly in these two posts.

Our next stop is Hotair where the Cap­tain notes a change in the air:

The Sunni Arab nations see less of a threat from Israel than from Iran, the Per­sian Shi’ite nation bent on estab­lish­ing regional hege­mony. Hamas gets its fund­ing and direc­tion from Tehran, in part through its Syr­ian ally. Egypt has no desire to see Iran estab­lish a satel­lite nation on its bor­der and on the Mediter­ranean, and the Saudis won’t much care for it either. Hamas’ war gave the Sunni mod­er­ates an oppor­tu­nity to iso­late their lead­er­ship among Arab nations, enough of an oppor­tu­nity to do it publicly.

Per­son­ally I think this is part of the suc­cess of the Iraq war, they know which horse is strong and they know who the #1 killer of Mus­lims is, and it isn’t the US or Israel. Iran is giv­ing them an excuse and they are going to take it.

Gate­way pun­dit notes the reac­tions of CAIR and Hamas and sees that they are the same. Funny I don’t recall CAIR con­demn­ing the rocket attacks on Israel.

He notes that Egypt is not tow­ing the line and has video:

Egypt­ian For­eign Min­is­ter Ahmed Aboul Gheit harshly cen­sured Hamas today (27 Dec), plac­ing respon­si­bil­ity for the cur­rent sit­u­a­tion on Hamas. At a noon press con­fer­ence broad­cast on Egypt­ian tele­vi­sion, he said that Egypt had repeat­edly cau­tioned against con­tin­u­ing the sit­u­a­tion and that who­ever did not lis­ten (Hamas) should assume respon­si­bil­ity and not blame others.

Michelle notes Israellycool’s live­blog­ging but you already knew about that didn’t you.

Meryl Your­ish notes that the causal­i­ties seem to be the right ones.

The bad news is that Ismail Haniyeh is still alive. The good news is that it seems the casu­alty rate was about 94% terrorists.

She also names names:

Three senior ter­ror­ists bought the farm today. Unfor­tu­nately, we don’t know of any more. But still, the loss of two hun­dred Hamas ter­ror­ists is a good thing.

The 230 Pales­tini­ans killed in the Israeli air raid on Gaza Sat­ur­day included three senior offi­cers: Taw­fik Jab­ber, the com­man­der of Hamas’ police force in Gaza; his adju­tant, Ismail al-Ja’abri, com­man­der of the defense and secu­rity direc­torate; and Abu-​Ahmad Ashur, Hamas’ Gaza cen­tral dis­trict governor.

And tar­gets:

IAF jets struck tun­nels con­nect­ing the Pales­tin­ian and Egypt­ian sides of Rafah, a Gaza Strip bor­der town which has become a main entry point into Gaza of weapons, dyna­mite and other smug­gled mil­i­tary equip­ment and con­sumer goods.

And Snark. Oh bother, just keep going to her blog and keep scrolling.

Kos decries pro­gres­sive response:

I remain con­founded by the Amer­i­can pro­gres­sive movement’s wide­spread refusal to stand behind the Pales­tin­ian peo­ple as they are sub­jected to an end­less bar­rage of colo­nial­ist, racist aggression.

While Lit­tle Green Foot­balls, cel­e­brates pro­gres­sives inner Chester Arthur.

I, on the other hand, see it as a rare sign of wis­dom. Not all “pro­gres­sives” are as gullible and blind as “Daisy Cut­ter,” apparently.

CNN reports the pres­i­dent elect has been briefed bye Sec Rice but Obama is say­ing noth­ing. This looks like a vote for Chester Arthur to me.

Jules Crit­ten­den also sees the hand of Bush in the Hamas’ lack of sup­port in the Arab world and notes that the Wash­ing­ton Post doesn’t:

The Post must have missed the part about Bush and the unprece­dented gath­er­ing of Arab states with Israel and other world pow­ers, united in their revul­sion of Hamas.

National Review has some debate; Cliff May on get­ting what you pay for:

Instead of prov­ing to the world that they are capa­ble of build­ing a free and demo­c­ra­tic state, the Pales­tini­ans voted in the mil­i­tant Islamist group Hamas which – with sup­port from Tehran — quickly turned Gaza into a ter­ror­ist enclave.

Hamas then took over full con­trol of Gaza in a bloody oper­a­tion against the Pales­tin­ian Author­ity and its supporters.

In June of 2006, Hamas “com­man­dos” invaded Israel and kid­napped an Israeli sol­dier, Gilad Shalit. The “inter­na­tional com­mu­nity” has been vir­tu­ally silent about Shalit who — unlike the detainees at Guan­tamo – has never had access to the Red Cross much less to an attorney.

The real ques­tion now is will Israel do to Hamas what it failed to do to Hezbol­lah: demon­strate clearly that ter­ror­ism is a dead end – fig­u­ra­tively and lit­er­ally — for those who employ it, spon­sor it and sup­port it?

Andy McCarthy dis­sents from the dead end the­ory:

For myself, I don’t think ter­ror­ism is a dead-​end: It’s been a very suc­cess­ful strat­egy for Hezbol­lah and Hamas: the more atroc­i­ties they com­mit, the more the Euro­peans and fac­tions of our State Depart­ment and our intel­li­gence com­mu­nity want to nego­ti­ate with them — just as they want to embrace the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood, which osten­si­bly has given up ter­ror­ism but in actu­al­ity con­tin­ues to preach it.

As for demon­strat­ing that it is a dead-​end, I sup­pose that depends on whom the demon­stra­tion is intended for. Hamas, for exam­ple, exists to be a ter­ror­ist orga­ni­za­tion. They are incor­ri­gi­ble, and there has already been enough demon­stra­tion for them that their meth­ods work.

The ques­tion is whether the Pales­tin­ian peo­ple are edu­ca­ble. Which brings me back to the first point: the Pales­tini­ans voted to put in power — i.e., vest with the power of a quasi-​sovereign gov­ern­ment — a ter­ror­ist orga­ni­za­tion which thinks legit­i­mate gov­ern­ing con­sists of bring­ing about the anni­hi­la­tion of its sov­er­eign neigh­bor and, mean­time, tar­get­ing the said neighbor’s civil­ian pop­u­la­tion with bomb­ing attacks. When you do that, you make your­self a target.

As I recall in 1861 the south­ern states voted for seces­sion and got what they voted for too. Lucky for Gaza Sher­man isn’t in Israel.

Time will tell how this will all come out. Was Hamas test­ing Israel with the attacks this week? Did Iran want to see what would hap­pen before their prox­ies hit from the north?

My take on it. This is a strate­gic move by Iran and a smart one. I per­son­ally think this is Iran’s war by proxy. Their best next move is an attack by Hezbol­lah as soon as pos­si­ble. This would serve two pur­poses. It will divide the Israeli response and if it suck­ers Israel into Lebanon it could not only bog them down but might change the direc­tion of the pro­pa­ganda war.

Unfor­tu­nately no mat­ter what hap­pens even a total Israeli vic­tory the win­ner here is Iran. As long as the world is talk­ing about Gaza and rocket attacks and responses they are not touch­ing the ongo­ing build­ing of Nukes by Iran. I think this is all a sucker punch to keep the heat else­where. If Israel is hit­ting Gaza and or Lebanon they are not hit­ting Iran­ian nuke sites. They are buy­ing time with Arab rather than Per­sian lives.

I could be wrong but we will see.

Well all kind of round ups are taking place over the hits of Gaza this week and there are quite a few surprises. Lets start a Powerline Blog.

In Calling Hamas pt 2 they look at the tactic of hiding being civilians:

The video vividly illustrates how Hamas uses civilians as shields against a humane enemy, making the avoidance of civilian casualties virtually impossible. Hamas’ conduct is illegal and evil. Under the circumstances, the Bush administration’s instruction to Israel to avoid civilian casualties at best represents a kind of confusion regarding the challenges Israel faces on each of its borders. The challenges are akin to those the United States faces in its own engagements in the region, so it is hard to believe that the problem is one of intellectual clarity rather than political cowardice.

They also touch upon coverage and attempts to scrub things in Hamas’ favor. Referencing the blogs Mere Rhetoric and I*Consult. Note also this post at I*consult concerning the Washington Post ended up pulling some “fake” photography.

Powerline further notes that the Arab governments are not following as blindly in these two posts.

Our next stop is Hotair where the Captain notes a change in the air:

The Sunni Arab nations see less of a threat from Israel than from Iran, the Persian Shi’ite nation bent on establishing regional hegemony. Hamas gets its funding and direction from Tehran, in part through its Syrian ally. Egypt has no desire to see Iran establish a satellite nation on its border and on the Mediterranean, and the Saudis won’t much care for it either. Hamas’ war gave the Sunni moderates an opportunity to isolate their leadership among Arab nations, enough of an opportunity to do it publicly.

Personally I think this is part of the success of the Iraq war, they know which horse is strong and they know who the #1 killer of Muslims is, and it isn’t the US or Israel. Iran is giving them an excuse and they are going to take it.

Gateway pundit notes the reactions of CAIR and Hamas and sees that they are the same. Funny I don’t recall CAIR condemning the rocket attacks on Israel.

He notes that Egypt is not towing the line and has video:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit harshly censured Hamas today (27 Dec), placing responsibility for the current situation on Hamas. At a noon press conference broadcast on Egyptian television, he said that Egypt had repeatedly cautioned against continuing the situation and that whoever did not listen (Hamas) should assume responsibility and not blame others.

Michelle notes Israellycool’s liveblogging but you already knew about that didn’t you.

Meryl Yourish notes that the causalities seem to be the right ones.

The bad news is that Ismail Haniyeh is still alive. The good news is that it seems the casualty rate was about 94% terrorists.

She also names names:

Three senior terrorists bought the farm today. Unfortunately, we don’t know of any more. But still, the loss of two hundred Hamas terrorists is a good thing.

The 230 Palestinians killed in the Israeli air raid on Gaza Saturday included three senior officers: Tawfik Jabber, the commander of Hamas’ police force in Gaza; his adjutant, Ismail al-Ja’abri, commander of the defense and security directorate; and Abu-Ahmad Ashur, Hamas’ Gaza central district governor.

And targets:

IAF jets struck tunnels connecting the Palestinian and Egyptian sides of Rafah, a Gaza Strip border town which has become a main entry point into Gaza of weapons, dynamite and other smuggled military equipment and consumer goods.

And Snark. Oh bother, just keep going to her blog and keep scrolling.

Kos decries progressive response:

I remain confounded by the American progressive movement’s widespread refusal to stand behind the Palestinian people as they are subjected to an endless barrage of colonialist, racist aggression.

While Little Green Footballs, celebrates progressives inner Chester Arthur.

I, on the other hand, see it as a rare sign of wisdom. Not all “progressives” are as gullible and blind as “Daisy Cutter,” apparently.

CNN reports the president elect has been briefed bye Sec Rice but Obama is saying nothing. This looks like a vote for Chester Arthur to me.

Jules Crittenden also sees the hand of Bush in the Hamas’ lack of support in the Arab world and notes that the Washington Post doesn’t:

The Post must have missed the part about Bush and the unprecedented gathering of Arab states with Israel and other world powers, united in their revulsion of Hamas.

National Review has some debate; Cliff May on getting what you pay for:

Instead of proving to the world that they are capable of building a free and democratic state, the Palestinians voted in the militant Islamist group Hamas which – with support from Tehran — quickly turned Gaza into a terrorist enclave.

Hamas then took over full control of Gaza in a bloody operation against the Palestinian Authority and its supporters.

In June of 2006, Hamas “commandos” invaded Israel and kidnapped an Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit. The “international community” has been virtually silent about Shalit who — unlike the detainees at Guantamo – has never had access to the Red Cross much less to an attorney.

The real question now is will Israel do to Hamas what it failed to do to Hezbollah: demonstrate clearly that terrorism is a dead end – figuratively and literally — for those who employ it, sponsor it and support it?

Andy McCarthy dissents from the dead end theory:

For myself, I don’t think terrorism is a dead-end: It’s been a very successful strategy for Hezbollah and Hamas: the more atrocities they commit, the more the Europeans and factions of our State Department and our intelligence community want to negotiate with them — just as they want to embrace the Muslim Brotherhood, which ostensibly has given up terrorism but in actuality continues to preach it.

As for demonstrating that it is a dead-end, I suppose that depends on whom the demonstration is intended for. Hamas, for example, exists to be a terrorist organization. They are incorrigible, and there has already been enough demonstration for them that their methods work.

The question is whether the Palestinian people are educable. Which brings me back to the first point: the Palestinians voted to put in power — i.e., vest with the power of a quasi-sovereign government — a terrorist organization which thinks legitimate governing consists of bringing about the annihilation of its sovereign neighbor and, meantime, targeting the said neighbor’s civilian population with bombing attacks. When you do that, you make yourself a target.

As I recall in 1861 the southern states voted for secession and got what they voted for too. Lucky for Gaza Sherman isn’t in Israel.

Time will tell how this will all come out. Was Hamas testing Israel with the attacks this week? Did Iran want to see what would happen before their proxies hit from the north?

My take on it. This is a strategic move by Iran and a smart one. I personally think this is Iran’s war by proxy. Their best next move is an attack by Hezbollah as soon as possible. This would serve two purposes. It will divide the Israeli response and if it suckers Israel into Lebanon it could not only bog them down but might change the direction of the propaganda war.

Unfortunately no matter what happens even a total Israeli victory the winner here is Iran. As long as the world is talking about Gaza and rocket attacks and responses they are not touching the ongoing building of Nukes by Iran. I think this is all a sucker punch to keep the heat elsewhere. If Israel is hitting Gaza and or Lebanon they are not hitting Iranian nuke sites. They are buying time with Arab rather than Persian lives.

I could be wrong but we will see.

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