If you are wondering why the vatican is investigating nuns…

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If you are wondering why the vatican is investigating nuns...

It’s stuff like this.

Some 60 lead­ers of reli­gious orders rep­re­sent­ing 59,000 Catholic nuns Wednes­day sent law­mak­ers a let­ter urg­ing them to pass the Sen­ate health care bill. It con­tains restric­tions on abor­tion fund­ing that the bish­ops say don’t go far enough.

Of Course that fine Catholic Norah O’Donnell who I’m sure as a good catholic is opposed pub­licly to the intrin­sic evil of abor­tion cel­e­brates this stuff. Maybe the St. Patrick’s day peo­ple might want to con­sider who they have lead parades cel­e­brat­ing saints in the future.

I’m told that Joe Scar­bor­ough reads this blog, before he talks about the split between the bish­ops and nuns and beclowns him­self doing so I sug­gest he read a few peo­ple who are actu­ally in the know such as, oh I don’t know the Anchoress:

The sis­ters (not nuns) who signed this endorse­ment are part of the Lead­er­ship Con­fer­ence of Women Reli­gious (LCWR). While they do rep­re­sent some 59,000 sis­ters in the US, that should not be taken rep­re­sen­ta­tive of the feel­ings of all those sis­ters. Just as the Fire­fight­ers Unions reg­u­larly endorse Democ­rats while the fire­fight­ers them­selves tend to vote more con­ser­v­a­tively, not all of the sis­ters whose lead­er­ship belongs to the LCWR will endorse or agree with this December/​March statement.

I wrote a lit­tle about the LCWR here, from which I invite you to draw your own conclusions.

These reli­gious are basi­cally what is left of the left­ist sis­ters – the mostly boomer sis­ters who have issues with the author­ity of the hier­ar­chy and have come to rather delight in stick­ing their fin­gers into the eyes of Catholic ortho­doxy. I would never rec­om­mend any­one casu­ally pass­ing judg­ment on their over­all faith­ful­ness; that would prob­a­bly be unwise and unchar­i­ta­ble, too. But I do not think it is inac­cu­rate or unchar­i­ta­ble to sug­gest that some of these sis­ters “self-​actualized” in 1972, and have decided to stay right there, in that heady chap­ter, as the nar­ra­tive has moved on.

Most of the orders these women are attached to are dying out because young Catholics are not attracted to their way.

And of course big Jour­nal­ism notes (via the Jam­miewear­ing­fool) that the going rate of 30 pieces of sil­ver has increased with infla­tion:

You see, the Catholic Health Asso­ci­a­tion is a for-​profit com­pany that works for some Catholic hos­pi­tals as a sort of trade asso­ci­a­tion. It isn’t part of the Church nor does it rep­re­sent any offi­cial group of reli­gious Catholics, nor does it serve as a source of Catholic teachings.

The truth is that CHA chief Carol Kee­han, a Daugh­ter of Char­ity nun, is paid around $800,000 a year to advo­cate for this trade asso­ci­a­tion, not the Catholic Church. She is not an altru­ist like nearly every other mem­ber of the actual Church that serves in an offi­cial capacity.

As I said there is a rea­son why the Vat­i­can has spent a year inves­ti­gat­ing reli­gious orders in the US.

Lets remind my fel­low Catholics (such as Norah O’Donnell) and inform non Catholics (such as Joe Scar­bor­ough) about the rules con­cern­ing Mor­tal Sin:

1857 For a sin to be mor­tal, three con­di­tions must together be met: “Mor­tal sin is sin whose object is grave mat­ter and which is also com­mit­ted with full knowl­edge and delib­er­ate consent.”

1858 Grave mat­ter is spec­i­fied by the Ten Com­mand­ments, cor­re­spond­ing to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: “Do not kill, Do not com­mit adul­tery, Do not steal, Do not bear false wit­ness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother.”132 The grav­ity of sins is more or less great: mur­der is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: vio­lence against par­ents is in itself graver than vio­lence against a stranger.

1859 Mor­tal sin requires full knowl­edge and com­plete con­sent. It pre­sup­poses knowl­edge of the sin­ful char­ac­ter of the act, of its oppo­si­tion to God’s law. It also implies a con­sent suf­fi­ciently delib­er­ate to be a per­sonal choice. Feigned igno­rance and hard­ness of heart do not dimin­ish, but rather increase, the vol­un­tary char­ac­ter of a sin.

Iron­i­cally Lit­tle Miss Attila had a post yes­ter­day quot­ing a slew of dif­fer­ent bibles all using dif­fer­ent word­ing but all of the same quote:

NIV: It would be bet­ter for him to be thrown into the sea with a mill­stone tied round his neck than for him to cause one of these lit­tle ones to sin…I hope and trust that the mes­sage is com­ing through.

It isn’t an easy thing at times to resist mem­ber­ship in the mill­stone club, there can be incred­i­ble incen­tives to lead oth­ers to sin. $800k is a pretty incred­i­ble incentive.

I have the same thing to say about “Sis­ter” Kee­han as I did about another nun Donna Quinn, and her pub­lic and active sup­port of abor­tion:

As I’ve said before Catholi­cism is a vol­un­tary activ­ity. If sis­ter Quinn wants to push Abor­tion and aid at abor­tion clin­ics, it’s a free coun­try, she just shouldn’t do it as a Catholic nun. If she insists on doing it as a Catholic Nun and her supe­ri­ors do noth­ing then they ought not to be whin­ing about the Vat­i­can inves­ti­gat­ing them. It’s a vari­a­tion of the mur­der your par­ents cry as an orphan business.

Sr. Kee­han will do what she wants and the left, the White House and the media will fawn on her as we saw today on Morn­ing Joe and she will be cel­e­brated for the rest of their lives…

…after that they’re on their own.

Your choice ladies. I’m include you in my prayers today.

It’s stuff like this.

Some 60 leaders of religious orders representing 59,000 Catholic nuns Wednesday sent lawmakers a letter urging them to pass the Senate health care bill. It contains restrictions on abortion funding that the bishops say don’t go far enough.

Of Course that fine Catholic Norah O’Donnell who I’m sure as a good catholic is opposed publicly to the intrinsic evil of abortion celebrates this stuff. Maybe the St. Patrick’s day people might want to consider who they have lead parades celebrating saints in the future.

I’m told that Joe Scarborough reads this blog, before he talks about the split between the bishops and nuns and beclowns himself doing so I suggest he read a few people who are actually in the know such as, oh I don’t know the Anchoress:

The sisters (not nuns) who signed this endorsement are part of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR). While they do represent some 59,000 sisters in the US, that should not be taken representative of the feelings of all those sisters. Just as the Firefighters Unions regularly endorse Democrats while the firefighters themselves tend to vote more conservatively, not all of the sisters whose leadership belongs to the LCWR will endorse or agree with this December/March statement.

I wrote a little about the LCWR here, from which I invite you to draw your own conclusions.

These religious are basically what is left of the leftist sisters – the mostly boomer sisters who have issues with the authority of the hierarchy and have come to rather delight in sticking their fingers into the eyes of Catholic orthodoxy. I would never recommend anyone casually passing judgment on their overall faithfulness; that would probably be unwise and uncharitable, too. But I do not think it is inaccurate or uncharitable to suggest that some of these sisters “self-actualized” in 1972, and have decided to stay right there, in that heady chapter, as the narrative has moved on.

Most of the orders these women are attached to are dying out because young Catholics are not attracted to their way.

And of course big Journalism notes (via the Jammiewearingfool) that the going rate of 30 pieces of silver has increased with inflation:

You see, the Catholic Health Association is a for-profit company that works for some Catholic hospitals as a sort of trade association. It isn’t part of the Church nor does it represent any official group of religious Catholics, nor does it serve as a source of Catholic teachings.

The truth is that CHA chief Carol Keehan, a Daughter of Charity nun, is paid around $800,000 a year to advocate for this trade association, not the Catholic Church. She is not an altruist like nearly every other member of the actual Church that serves in an official capacity.

As I said there is a reason why the Vatican has spent a year investigating religious orders in the US.

Lets remind my fellow Catholics (such as Norah O’Donnell) and inform non Catholics (such as Joe Scarborough) about the rules concerning Mortal Sin:

1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: “Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.”

1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: “Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother.”132 The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God’s law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

Ironically Little Miss Attila had a post yesterday quoting a slew of different bibles all using different wording but all of the same quote:

NIV: It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied round his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin…I hope and trust that the message is coming through.

It isn’t an easy thing at times to resist membership in the millstone club, there can be incredible incentives to lead others to sin. $800k is a pretty incredible incentive.

I have the same thing to say about “Sister” Keehan as I did about another nun Donna Quinn, and her public and active support of abortion:

As I’ve said before Catholicism is a voluntary activity. If sister Quinn wants to push Abortion and aid at abortion clinics, it’s a free country, she just shouldn’t do it as a Catholic nun. If she insists on doing it as a Catholic Nun and her superiors do nothing then they ought not to be whining about the Vatican investigating them. It’s a variation of the murder your parents cry as an orphan business.

Sr. Keehan will do what she wants and the left, the White House and the media will fawn on her as we saw today on Morning Joe and she will be celebrated for the rest of their lives…

…after that they’re on their own.

Your choice ladies. I’m include you in my prayers today.