Lets not get carried away here

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Lets not get carried away here

I actu­ally watched all the Clin­ton Hear­ings and fully sup­ported and still sup­port the impeach­ment of Bill Clin­ton, I trace the decline in demo­c­ra­tic honor from the moment of the dis­grace­ful press con­fer­ence after the ini­tial vote.

That being said, Tancredo’s case for impeach­ment of pres­i­dent Obama is just off, it has no more jus­ti­fi­ca­tion than the left’s non­sense of the same toward George W. Bush.

I think this pres­i­dent has been dis­as­trous domes­ti­cally and ade­quate at best on defense (which was way ahead of my expec­ta­tions for him) but cer­tainly not impeach­able. Most of what this pres­i­dent has done is bad pol­icy, bad deci­sions, based on a bad phi­los­o­phy but you don’t impeach that. (The vir­tual ced­ing of parts of Ari­zona to the Mex­i­can Car­tels has poten­tial in that direc­tion but we are nowhere near there yet).

Clin­ton directly lied to a grand jury, this is an actual crime, and he used the power of the pres­i­dency to cover that, he was dis­barred for this.

There is noth­ing that Barack Obama has done to this point that rises to that level, being wrong or mis­taken is not an impeach­able offense and both legally and polit­i­cally we waste our time going in that direction.

Meme­o­ran­dum thread here.

Oh and one note, I’m not argu­ing that Clin­ton was a worse pres­i­dent than our cur­rent one or was worse for the coun­try, I’m argu­ing the legal­i­ties and the pur­pose of impeach­ment as a con­sti­tu­tional tool. It should be used spar­ingly for actual crimes not as a polit­i­cal club.

Update: And of course here are the democ­rats also talk­ing smack in the other direc­tion, pure hog­wash.

I actually watched all the Clinton Hearings and fully supported and still support the impeachment of Bill Clinton, I trace the decline in democratic honor from the moment of the disgraceful press conference after the initial vote.

That being said, Tancredo’s case for impeachment of president Obama is just off, it has no more justification than the left’s nonsense of the same toward George W. Bush.

I think this president has been disastrous domestically and adequate at best on defense (which was way ahead of my expectations for him) but certainly not impeachable. Most of what this president has done is bad policy, bad decisions, based on a bad philosophy but you don’t impeach that. (The virtual ceding of parts of Arizona to the Mexican Cartels has potential in that direction but we are nowhere near there yet).

Clinton directly lied to a grand jury, this is an actual crime, and he used the power of the presidency to cover that, he was disbarred for this.

There is nothing that Barack Obama has done to this point that rises to that level, being wrong or mistaken is not an impeachable offense and both legally and politically we waste our time going in that direction.

Memeorandum thread here.

Oh and one note, I’m not arguing that Clinton was a worse president than our current one or was worse for the country, I’m arguing the legalities and the purpose of impeachment as a constitutional tool. It should be used sparingly for actual crimes not as a political club.

Update: And of course here are the democrats also talking smack in the other direction, pure hogwash.