Another GOP debate to blog…

by Datechguy | September 12th, 2011

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Another GOP debate to blog...

I have no idea how this will go but we will soon find out:

My Take, Cain, San­to­rum and Bach­mann helped them­selves, Rick Perry was blood­ied, Rom­ney stayed steady but not great, Hunts­man hurt him­self, Paul was Paul, Gin­grich was solid.

A lot more sub­stance than other debates, likely due to the tea party business.

9:49 p.m. Silly ques­tion about adding in, Gin­grich hits on Tzars.

9:44 p.m. Huntsman’s answer to the women trans­lated: “Let them die, not our prob­lem.”, Perry agrees.

9:42 p.m. San­to­rum hits Paul HARD on 911. Paul is Paul, I’ll say this for him, he’s consistent.

9:39 p.m. Paul: “Dif­fer­ence between mil­i­tary and defense spending.”

9:38 p.m. Cain on energy inde­pen­dence not bad, Gin­grich on defense spending.

9:37 p.m. Calls in-​state tuition a states rights issue, a bad hit on him.

9:35 p.m. Rom­ney almost gets it on the Lati­nos question.

9:33 p.m. Hunts­man sug­gests Perry is trea­so­nous for say­ing we can’t secure the bor­der. Plays the License isn’t an ID card.

9:31 p.m. Bach­mann don’t give tax­payer sub­si­dies for break­ing the law.

9:30 p.m. Perry defends in-​state tuition San­to­rum hits.

9:28 p.m. Perry says boots on the ground and agents rather than a fence.

9:27 p.m. Ille­gal immi­gra­tion ques­tion San­to­rum 1st.

9:22 p.m. That last round was bad for Rom­ney and Perry and good for Bach­mann, Paul and San­to­rum. Stacy Live-​blogging too.

9:20 p.m. Bach­mann makes an impor­tant point about wavers being able to be undone.

9:18 p.m. Ron Paul points out how com­mu­ni­ties used to take care of their own, impor­tant cul­tural point.

9:16 p.m. Perry says Rom­ney care is the wrong move but the state has the right to do it if it wants.

9:15 p.m. Rom­ney not defend­ing Romney-​care attack­ing Obama-​care

9:14 p.m. Sug­gests “loser pays” laws

9:12 p.m. San­to­rum throws a round­house on big gov­ern­ment, Perry tries to defend, I think he took a big hit on this

9:10 p.m. Bach­mann talks about polit­i­cal dona­tions and the drug com­pa­nies. Perry hits back.

9:09 p.m. Lit­tle girls don’t get a do over says Michelle Bach­mann hit­ting Perry, hits Obama on the morn­ing after pill.

9:08 p.m. Perry gives a mea-​culpa, should have gone to leg­is­la­ture but defends his motives.

9:06 p.m. Paul on exec­u­tive orders, should never be used to legislate

9:06 p.m. Rom­ney says the “fair tax” would hurt mid­dle tax.

9:05 p.m. “Would any of you be will­ing to sup­port the fair tax?”

9:03 p.m. Gin­grich brings up GE when Wolf hits the oil com­pa­nies, still not asked the ques­tion given.

9:02 p.m. Hunts­man says 81624 and talks debt

9:01 p.m. Love the ques­tion: “Out of every dol­lar I make, how much should I be able to keep?” Who will answer it?

9:00 p.m. Rom­ney doesn’t hit the fed as hard, who is going to run the cur­rency Con­gress? They didn’t let Paul touch the fed ques­tion, amazing!

8:58 p.m. Perry doesn’t back down from the “Trea­son” busi­ness, if the fed is used for polit­i­cal purposes.

8:57 p.m. Cain hits the fed in terms of the mon­e­tary exchange rate, Bach­mann talks about almost unlim­ited power of fed and loans to for­eign governments.

8:55 p.m. Ques­tion on fed­eral reserve, goes to San­to­rum first but a slow ball over the plate for Paul when it gets to him.

8:53 p.m. I think Cain has helped him­self the most so far, but noth­ing excit­ing yet.

8:50 p.m. Since that ini­tial back and forth it’s been a more open debate.

8:49 p.m. First non-​tea party ques­tion, can you be pro-​business and pro-​worker at the same time?

8:48 p.m. Gin­grich points out that jobs are cre­ated by the Amer­i­can Peo­ple not governments.

8:47 p.m. Perry: “Peo­ple aren’t com­ing to Texas because we’re over­tax­ing them.”

8:46 p.m. Ron Paul points out you don’t pay for peo­ple being allowed to keep their own money. Impor­tant line.

8:45 p.m. Perry talks tort reform, that’s why Rom­ney will never be short of cam­paign money.

8:44 p.m. “If you are dealt four aces that doesn’t make you a great poker player.” Romney

8:41 p.m. Cain push­ing the 999 plan again. “You don’t know how Wash­ing­ton works, yes I do, it doesn’t!”

8:40 p.m. Bach­mann stress not rais­ing the debt ceil­ing still a strong point

8:39 p.m. 12 of zero jobs is still zero jobs says Perry

8:37 p.m. Wolf seems to be rephras­ing the ques­tions when asked.

8:33 p.m. First break, no word from the democ­rats to explain the lack of horns or hoods on the tea party mem­bers in the audience.

8:32 p.m. Michelle Bach­mann talks per­sonal responsibility

8:31 p.m. Ron Paul hits the wars again, but also wants to cut dept of Edu­ca­tion and energy

8:30 p.m. Did Rom­ney just push Cut, Cap and Balance?

8:29 p.m. I hate hear­ing about “waste and fraud” it exists but almost never gets touched.

8:27 p.m. Just saw Ali Akbar in the crowd, Stacy is room­ing with him for this trip.

8:26 p.m. Are all the ques­tions going to be from Tea party mem­bers? Great!

8:24 p.m. San­to­rum points out he was talk­ing about this 17 years ago.

8:23 p.m. Gin­grich deliv­ers the Bazinga! “I’m not wor­ried about Rom­ney or Perry scar­ing peo­ple when Obama does it every day.”

8:22 p.m. Hunts­man talks against “drama” then offers some and backs up Ryan.

8:21 p.m. Her­man Cain: “I don’t care what you call it, it’s bro­ken.” Offers an actual solution.

8:20 p.m. If I’m one of the other can­di­dates I would ask directly are we part of this debate or not? Paul points out the Social Secu­rity money has been spent.

8:18 p.m. Perry given a chance to respond to Rom­ney, are they going to play the Perry Rom­ney show again?

8:17 p.m. Rom­ney hit­ting Perry with his book.

8:15 p.m. Bach­mann talks about keep­ing promise, Perry fol­lows up asks about his op/​ed guar­an­tees ben­e­fits for exist­ing seniors but been called Ponzi scheme long before me.

8:13 p.m. Good first ques­tion how do you con­vince seniors to allow the changes

8:11 p.m. Bach­mann men­tions found­ing tea party cau­cus, good move.

8:10 p.m. I like start­ing with the anthem but it’s not good that it took 10 min to get to the candidates

8:08 p.m. Yay! Dianne She opened many a tea party the same way! That’s awesome!

8:07 p.m. Bach­mann get a big hair upgrade, Cain gets the biggest cheer, Hunts­man almost doesn’t get one.

8:05 p.m. Cripes is this s foot­ball game? Look­ing for the cheer­lead­ers on each side as they come on

8:03 p.m. Just saw Andrea Shea King in the audience

8:01 p.m. Notice that Hunts­man was 4th on the list though last in the polls

I have no idea how this will go but we will soon find out:

My Take, Cain, Santorum and Bachmann helped themselves, Rick Perry was bloodied, Romney stayed steady but not great, Huntsman hurt himself, Paul was Paul, Gingrich was solid.

A lot more substance than other debates, likely due to the tea party business.

9:49 p.m. Silly question about adding in, Gingrich hits on Tzars.

9:44 p.m. Huntsman’s answer to the women translated: “Let them die, not our problem.”, Perry agrees.

9:42 p.m. Santorum hits Paul HARD on 9/11. Paul is Paul, I’ll say this for him, he’s consistent.

9:39 p.m. Paul: “Difference between military and defense spending.”

9:38 p.m. Cain on energy independence not bad, Gingrich on defense spending.

9:37 p.m. Calls in-state tuition a states rights issue, a bad hit on him.

9:35 p.m. Romney almost gets it on the Latinos question.

9:33 p.m. Huntsman suggests Perry is treasonous for saying we can’t secure the border. Plays the License isn’t an ID card.

9:31 p.m. Bachmann don’t give taxpayer subsidies for breaking the law.

9:30 p.m. Perry defends in-state tuition Santorum hits.

9:28 p.m. Perry says boots on the ground and agents rather than a fence.

9:27 p.m. Illegal immigration question Santorum 1st.

9:22 p.m. That last round was bad for Romney and Perry and good for Bachmann, Paul and Santorum. Stacy Live-blogging too.

9:20 p.m. Bachmann makes an important point about wavers being able to be undone.

9:18 p.m. Ron Paul points out how communities used to take care of their own, important cultural point.

9:16 p.m. Perry says Romney care is the wrong move but the state has the right to do it if it wants.

9:15 p.m. Romney not defending Romney-care attacking Obama-care

9:14 p.m. Suggests “loser pays” laws

9:12 p.m. Santorum throws a roundhouse on big government, Perry tries to defend, I think he took a big hit on this

9:10 p.m. Bachmann talks about political donations and the drug companies. Perry hits back.

9:09 p.m. Little girls don’t get a do over says Michelle Bachmann hitting Perry, hits Obama on the morning after pill.

9:08 p.m. Perry gives a mea-culpa, should have gone to legislature but defends his motives.

9:06 p.m. Paul on executive orders, should never be used to legislate

9:06 p.m. Romney says the “fair tax” would hurt middle tax.

9:05 p.m. “Would any of you be willing to support the fair tax?”

9:03 p.m. Gingrich brings up GE when Wolf hits the oil companies, still not asked the question given.

9:02 p.m. Huntsman says 8-16-24 and talks debt

9:01 p.m. Love the question: “Out of every dollar I make, how much should I be able to keep?” Who will answer it?

9:00 p.m. Romney doesn’t hit the fed as hard, who is going to run the currency Congress? They didn’t let Paul touch the fed question, amazing!

8:58 p.m. Perry doesn’t back down from the “Treason” business, if the fed is used for political purposes.

8:57 p.m. Cain hits the fed in terms of the monetary exchange rate, Bachmann talks about almost unlimited power of fed and loans to foreign governments.

8:55 p.m. Question on federal reserve, goes to Santorum first but a slow ball over the plate for Paul when it gets to him.

8:53 p.m. I think Cain has helped himself the most so far, but nothing exciting yet.

8:50 p.m. Since that initial back and forth it’s been a more open debate.

8:49 p.m. First non-tea party question, can you be pro-business and pro-worker at the same time?

8:48 p.m. Gingrich points out that jobs are created by the American People not governments.

8:47 p.m. Perry: “People aren’t coming to Texas because we’re overtaxing them.”

8:46 p.m. Ron Paul points out you don’t pay for people being allowed to keep their own money. Important line.

8:45 p.m. Perry talks tort reform, that’s why Romney will never be short of campaign money.

8:44 p.m. “If you are dealt four aces that doesn’t make you a great poker player.” Romney

8:41 p.m. Cain pushing the 9-9-9 plan again. “You don’t know how Washington works, yes I do, it doesn’t!”

8:40 p.m. Bachmann stress not raising the debt ceiling still a strong point

8:39 p.m. 1/2 of zero jobs is still zero jobs says Perry

8:37 p.m. Wolf seems to be rephrasing the questions when asked.

8:33 p.m. First break, no word from the democrats to explain the lack of horns or hoods on the tea party members in the audience.

8:32 p.m. Michelle Bachmann talks personal responsibility

8:31 p.m. Ron Paul hits the wars again, but also wants to cut dept of Education and energy

8:30 p.m. Did Romney just push Cut, Cap and Balance?

8:29 p.m. I hate hearing about “waste and fraud” it exists but almost never gets touched.

8:27 p.m. Just saw Ali Akbar in the crowd, Stacy is rooming with him for this trip.

8:26 p.m. Are all the questions going to be from Tea party members? Great!

8:24 p.m. Santorum points out he was talking about this 17 years ago.

8:23 p.m. Gingrich delivers the Bazinga! “I’m not worried about Romney or Perry scaring people when Obama does it every day.”

8:22 p.m. Huntsman talks against “drama” then offers some and backs up Ryan.

8:21 p.m. Herman Cain: “I don’t care what you call it, it’s broken.” Offers an actual solution.

8:20 p.m. If I’m one of the other candidates I would ask directly are we part of this debate or not? Paul points out the Social Security money has been spent.

8:18 p.m. Perry given a chance to respond to Romney, are they going to play the Perry Romney show again?

8:17 p.m. Romney hitting Perry with his book.

8:15 p.m. Bachmann talks about keeping promise, Perry follows up asks about his op/ed guarantees benefits for existing seniors but been called Ponzi scheme long before me.

8:13 p.m. Good first question how do you convince seniors to allow the changes

8:11 p.m. Bachmann mentions founding tea party caucus, good move.

8:10 p.m. I like starting with the anthem but it’s not good that it took 10 min to get to the candidates

8:08 p.m. Yay! Dianne She opened many a tea party the same way! That’s awesome!

8:07 p.m. Bachmann get a big hair upgrade, Cain gets the biggest cheer, Huntsman almost doesn’t get one.

8:05 p.m. Cripes is this s football game? Looking for the cheerleaders on each side as they come on

8:03 p.m. Just saw Andrea Shea King in the audience

8:01 p.m. Notice that Huntsman was 4th on the list though last in the polls

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