Herman Cain wins very close debate

by Datechguy | September 12th, 2011

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Herman Cain wins very close debate

I’m going to score this on a 10 pt must system

WIN­NER Her­man Cain 10.0: Answered ques­tions directly and drew com­ple­ments from other can­di­dates, pushed his plan that is sim­ple enough to under­stand. Needed to be noticed and was.

Rick San­to­rum 9.9: Strong answers and strong punches landed on Paul and Perry, had one so so answer that kept him behind Cain, spent a lot of time in a mutual admi­ra­tion soci­ety with Gingrich.

Michelle Bachmann/​Newt Gin­grich 9,8: Both did what they had to do, Bach­mann started slow but was strong and not shy about throw­ing punches, The con­tri­bu­tion angle is going to smart because of the Palin follow-​up. Great Oba­macare answer too. Gin­grich excelled again and sim­ply needed to stay rel­e­vant, If I had to give an edge to one it would be Bach­mann because she had more to lose.

Mitt Rom­ney 9.7 : Fairly solid per­for­mance, the expe­ri­ence of run­ning before really helps. He had one or two weak answers but out­pointed Perry which is all that mat­ters. Because he is com­fort­ably ahead of the peo­ple who did bet­ter than he did it’s not a prob­lem, at least not yet.

Rick Perry 9.6: Hes­i­tated a bit at first but set­tled down but was a con­stant tar­get and was hit solidly and it showed. It was not enough that it will cost him the lead but he was clearly off-​balance. How he comes back in the next debate will really deter­mine how he can take a punch.

Ron Paul 9.2 I can’t under­stand how he didn’t go back to that Fed ques­tion that he wasn’t asked that was a mis­take, other than that he was him­self. He han­dled the med­ical ques­tion very well, but the Bin Laden ques­tion really hurt him for the gen­eral pub­lic but Paul is not about to be some­thing he is not. He likely cost him­self con­sid­er­a­tion among the gen­eral pub­lic, but Paul will not pan­der and answered hon­estly. I can’t see what else he could have done.

Jon Hunts­man 9.1: It takes a lot of effort to do a worse job than some­one who is unwill­ing to absolve Amer­i­can from blame on 911 but Hunts­man man­aged to do it. His “Trea­son” com­ment on Perry sounded con­trived, although he ref­er­enced his plan he did a poor job of mak­ing it clear. His dri­ver license answer while hit­ting Perry didn’t work and his Afghanistan answer was hor­rid. But the media loves him so he’ll be back.

Tea party 9.8 Most ques­tions were solid and I liked start­ing with the national anthem, no horns on anyone’s head and peo­ple who watched the debate and the tea party mem­bers didn’t see a bunch of racists unless they were already in Andre Car­son land.

CNN 9.6 Started slow and I thought he could steer the ques­tions slightly bet­ter but Wolf wasn’t bad. Best debate to date.

Bot­tom line: The dif­fer­ence between the top 6 was close enough that it won’t move much, Bach­mann did enough to keep her in it, and we need to see if Perry can keep tak­ing hits, Rom­ney is helped by the minor can­di­dates all doing well.

Update: Stacy Points to a key moment:

It fell to for­mer Penn­syl­va­nia Sen. Rick San­to­rum, a favorite of many social con­ser­v­a­tives, to point out the dif­fer­ence between Gar­dasil and other vac­ci­na­tions. “Ladies and gen­tle­men, why do we inoc­u­late peo­ple with vac­cines in pub­lic schools? Because we’re afraid of those dis­eases being com­mu­ni­ca­ble between peo­ple at school. And there­fore to pro­tect the rest of the peo­ple at school, we have vac­ci­na­tions to pro­tect those chil­dren. Unless Texas has a very pro­gres­sive way of com­mu­ni­cat­ing dis­eases in their schools… then there is no gov­ern­ment pur­pose served for hav­ing lit­tle girls inoc­u­lated at the coer­cion of the gov­ern­ment. It is big gov­ern­ment run amok. It is bad pol­icy and it should not be done.”

This is a real prob­lem for Perry, in the pri­maries and every debate he is going to be hit again and again on this.

I’m going to score this on a 10 pt must system

WINNER Herman Cain 10.0: Answered questions directly and drew complements from other candidates, pushed his plan that is simple enough to understand. Needed to be noticed and was.

Rick Santorum 9.9: Strong answers and strong punches landed on Paul and Perry, had one so so answer that kept him behind Cain, spent a lot of time in a mutual admiration society with Gingrich.

Michelle Bachmann/Newt Gingrich 9,8: Both did what they had to do, Bachmann started slow but was strong and not shy about throwing punches, The contribution angle is going to smart because of the Palin follow-up. Great Obamacare answer too. Gingrich excelled again and simply needed to stay relevant, If I had to give an edge to one it would be Bachmann because she had more to lose.

Mitt Romney 9.7 : Fairly solid performance, the experience of running before really helps. He had one or two weak answers but outpointed Perry which is all that matters. Because he is comfortably ahead of the people who did better than he did it’s not a problem, at least not yet.

Rick Perry 9.6: Hesitated a bit at first but settled down but was a constant target and was hit solidly and it showed. It was not enough that it will cost him the lead but he was clearly off-balance. How he comes back in the next debate will really determine how he can take a punch.

Ron Paul 9.2 I can’t understand how he didn’t go back to that Fed question that he wasn’t asked that was a mistake, other than that he was himself. He handled the medical question very well, but the Bin Laden question really hurt him for the general public but Paul is not about to be something he is not. He likely cost himself consideration among the general public, but Paul will not pander and answered honestly. I can’t see what else he could have done.

Jon Huntsman 9.1: It takes a lot of effort to do a worse job than someone who is unwilling to absolve American from blame on 9/11 but Huntsman managed to do it. His “Treason” comment on Perry sounded contrived, although he referenced his plan he did a poor job of making it clear. His driver license answer while hitting Perry didn’t work and his Afghanistan answer was horrid. But the media loves him so he’ll be back.

Tea party 9.8 Most questions were solid and I liked starting with the national anthem, no horns on anyone’s head and people who watched the debate and the tea party members didn’t see a bunch of racists unless they were already in Andre Carson land.

CNN 9.6 Started slow and I thought he could steer the questions slightly better but Wolf wasn’t bad. Best debate to date.

Bottom line: The difference between the top 6 was close enough that it won’t move much, Bachmann did enough to keep her in it, and we need to see if Perry can keep taking hits, Romney is helped by the minor candidates all doing well.

Update: Stacy Points to a key moment:

It fell to former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, a favorite of many social conservatives, to point out the difference between Gardasil and other vaccinations. “Ladies and gentlemen, why do we inoculate people with vaccines in public schools? Because we’re afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children. Unless Texas has a very progressive way of communicating diseases in their schools… then there is no government purpose served for having little girls inoculated at the coercion of the government. It is big government run amok. It is bad policy and it should not be done.”

This is a real problem for Perry, in the primaries and every debate he is going to be hit again and again on this.

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