ReadabilityHerman Cain vs Rick Santorum: Santorum is looking better and better
…particularly after this interview by Herman Cain:
No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.
Yeah, it’s not the government job to tell a family if they should hold slaves kill their children have an abortion.
Does that mean he would appoint Judges who would protect abortion? If so, cripes I can get that from Mitt Romney.
Now that won’t hurt him with the tea party since it is a fiscal rather than a social movement (no matter what the left says) but for Catholics like me who first came to the GOP over social issues, Abortion is a sine-non-qua.
I am still undecided, I like Herman Cain and I think 9−9−9 is a great idea, but this interview has definitely dropped Herman Cain behind Rick Santorum on the list of candidates I support.
Let me give some unsolicited advice to the campaign: Take a day off and sit down with your people and clearly delineate your positions, because I’m telling you tweaking to make liberals on CNN like you doesn’t fly.
Now Rick Santorum, you don’t get equivocation like that, that’s the difference between an experienced pol and an inexperienced one.
Here is the Cain video:
Update: Forgot the block quote, but saw this at life news, saw this coming a mile away:
Former Senator Rick Santorum responded to Cain’s remarks by issuing a statement saying Cain is not fully pro-life:
“Herman Cain said that he believes life begins at conception, but that it’s up to the individual to decide whether or not to terminate that life. And I find it gravely troubling that Herman believes it’s a life, but that he doesn’t consider it a life worth fighting for. As the author of the partial birth abortion ban and other pro-life pieces of legislation, this is the exact mentality myself and other true pro-life advocates fought against. In fact, Herman’s pro-choice position is similar to those held by John Kerry, Barack Obama and many others on the liberal left. No, Herman, it is not ‘whatever they decide,’this is an innocent human life. It is unconscionable for Herman to run for the nomination of the Party that stands in defense of Life while showing disregard for the sanctity of Life. You cannot be both personally against abortion while condoning it – you can’t have it both ways. We must defend the defenseless, period.”
Mitt Romney and the establishment GOP are fist pumping right now.
Update 2: I like Jimmie Bise a lot, and reading this post its almost as if we have only one mind between us:
Chiefly, you must remember that those journalists are not your friends. Even if they are not openly hostile to you, they want their interview with you to make big news. They hope to get their name in the headlines on Wednesday because of their interview with you on Sunday. You are no longer an interesting businessman or a talk show host but the man who wants to dethrone their beloved Barack Obama. They will not play fair. They will line up a series of “gotcha” questions to trap you. Don’t give them a chance and for goodness sake, don’t trap yourself. Like I said, that will be hard for you because you’ve built a reputation as a straight-shooter, but it’s a skill you’re going to have to learn fast.
I had actually started an “Open Letter” post but this really said it perfectly. And that’s a bit of advice EVERY GOP candidate should follow. The second piece of advice is more specific to Herman Cain:
That brings me to my second point. You need a solid inner circle. They don’t have to be famous. They don’t have to be political. They do have to be smart and willing to tell you things you may not want to hear. And you have to trust them implicitly. They will be the ones who prepare your for interviews by playing Devil’s Advocate with you.
His last problem is not getting blindsided, campaigns are very busy, and you need an update every morning, as Jimmy suggests:
This is where your inner circle can help you immensely. Just spend some time during the day in conversation with them about the news. You don’t have to drill deeply into the issues; table talk along will help give you the basic information you need. Put some of the topics for upcoming interviews on the table and kick them around over dinner. Those talks will help you more than you think, and they’ll help you relax a bit, too.
Read it all, it’s perfect.
…particularly after this interview by Herman Cain:
No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.
Yeah, it’s not the government job to tell a family if they should hold slaves kill their children have an abortion.
Does that mean he would appoint Judges who would protect abortion? If so, cripes I can get that from Mitt Romney.
Now that won’t hurt him with the tea party since it is a fiscal rather than a social movement (no matter what the left says) but for Catholics like me who first came to the GOP over social issues, Abortion is a sine-non-qua.
I am still undecided, I like Herman Cain and I think 9-9-9 is a great idea, but this interview has definitely dropped Herman Cain behind Rick Santorum on the list of candidates I support.
Let me give some unsolicited advice to the campaign: Take a day off and sit down with your people and clearly delineate your positions, because I’m telling you tweaking to make liberals on CNN like you doesn’t fly.
Now Rick Santorum, you don’t get equivocation like that, that’s the difference between an experienced pol and an inexperienced one.
Here is the Cain video:
Update: Forgot the block quote, but saw this at life news, saw this coming a mile away:
Former Senator Rick Santorum responded to Cain’s remarks by issuing a statement saying Cain is not fully pro-life:
“Herman Cain said that he believes life begins at conception, but that it’s up to the individual to decide whether or not to terminate that life. And I find it gravely troubling that Herman believes it’s a life, but that he doesn’t consider it a life worth fighting for. As the author of the partial birth abortion ban and other pro-life pieces of legislation, this is the exact mentality myself and other true pro-life advocates fought against. In fact, Herman’s pro-choice position is similar to those held by John Kerry, Barack Obama and many others on the liberal left. No, Herman, it is not ‘whatever they decide,’this is an innocent human life. It is unconscionable for Herman to run for the nomination of the Party that stands in defense of Life while showing disregard for the sanctity of Life. You cannot be both personally against abortion while condoning it – you can’t have it both ways. We must defend the defenseless, period.”
Mitt Romney and the establishment GOP are fist pumping right now.
Update 2: I like Jimmie Bise a lot, and reading this post its almost as if we have only one mind between us:
Chiefly, you must remember that those journalists are not your friends. Even if they are not openly hostile to you, they want their interview with you to make big news. They hope to get their name in the headlines on Wednesday because of their interview with you on Sunday. You are no longer an interesting businessman or a talk show host but the man who wants to dethrone their beloved Barack Obama. They will not play fair. They will line up a series of “gotcha” questions to trap you. Don’t give them a chance and for goodness sake, don’t trap yourself. Like I said, that will be hard for you because you’ve built a reputation as a straight-shooter, but it’s a skill you’re going to have to learn fast.
I had actually started an “Open Letter” post but this really said it perfectly. And that’s a bit of advice EVERY GOP candidate should follow. The second piece of advice is more specific to Herman Cain:
That brings me to my second point. You need a solid inner circle. They don’t have to be famous. They don’t have to be political. They do have to be smart and willing to tell you things you may not want to hear. And you have to trust them implicitly. They will be the ones who prepare your for interviews by playing Devil’s Advocate with you.
His last problem is not getting blindsided, campaigns are very busy, and you need an update every morning, as Jimmy suggests:
This is where your inner circle can help you immensely. Just spend some time during the day in conversation with them about the news. You don’t have to drill deeply into the issues; table talk along will help give you the basic information you need. Put some of the topics for upcoming interviews on the table and kick them around over dinner. Those talks will help you more than you think, and they’ll help you relax a bit, too.
Read it all, it’s perfect.
[...] Tech Guy is not happy with what Cain had to say about abortion yesterday morning even though Cain clarified his remarks later in the day. It was an unforced error [...]
Isn’t the “problem” that in order to get the abortion quesion “right” you have toi spend 3 or 4 days studying all the nuanced and tricky ways the question can be asked, and then practice for another 3 or 4 days, so that you can give the exact “right” answer to each and every tricky nuance. And you’ve got to stay in practice by repeating these drills every week so you don’t slip up.
In a businessman’s mindset, who has time for that?
[...] helped him immensely. But his lead in the polls won’t last if he continues giving his opponents ammunition to use against him. I really hope he takes the advice of Jimmie Bise and pauses momentarily to [...]
[...] him immensely. But his lead in the polls won’t last if he continues giving his opponents ammunition to use against him. I really hope he takes the advice of Jimmie Bise and pauses momentarily to [...]
You have to read the FULL transcript, not an edited version. I don’t think the government should be able to tell us if we have to put our children up for adoption or raise them as our own either. Two different questions were asked. First abortion, secondly would his granddaughter raise the child as her own.
MORGAN: Abortion. What’s your view of abortion?
CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why —
MORGAN: No circumstances?
CAIN: No circumstances.
MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates — some of them qualify that.
CAIN: They qualify but —
MORGAN: Rape and incest.
CAIN: Rape and incest.
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying — again, it’s a tricky question, I know.
CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You’re mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You’re mixing —
MORGAN: That’s what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
Cain is acting as, and being used as, a stalking horse for Romney. I believe he knows he can’t be the nominee for President in this cycle, but has from the beginning set his sights on becoming Romney’s pick for VP. I certainly don’t follow the news on the campaigns closely enough to build a case that there is collusion between Romney and Cain and/or between their staffs, but I think it is likely. I would suggest that the most plausible reason for Cain to have made a flat statement that he would not be willing to run as VP on a ticket with Perry (and of all the candidates, ONLY Perry) is that there is some sort of previous (direct or otherwise) understanding with the Romney folks, all parties having calculated that for the presidential nomination it’s going to come down to Romney and Perry. Cain’s statement, in fact, tips us to both to the fact that his aim is actually set for the VP slot, and that he has chosen Romney (or has been chosen by Romney) as the more likely candidate.
Aside from Cain’s recent unfortunate tendency to shoot from the lip, this flat refusal to consider running on a ticket with Perry is in my view a disqualifying factor. And I think that refusal, like several of his recent statements at debates and in interviews, reveals Mr. Cain to be a much less principled character and much more a double-speaking politician than I had hoped.