Herman Cain vs Rick Santorum: Santorum is looking better and better

by Datechguy | October 20th, 2011

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Herman Cain vs Rick Santorum: Santorum is looking better and better

…par­tic­u­larly after this inter­view by Her­man Cain:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or any­body else’s role — to make that deci­sion. Sec­ondly, if you look at the sta­tis­ti­cal inci­dents, you’re not talk­ing about that that big a num­ber. So what I’m say­ing is, it ulti­mately gets down to a choice that fam­ily or that mother has to make. Not me as pres­i­dent. Not some politi­cian. Not a bureau­crat. It gets down to that fam­ily. And what­ever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what deci­sion to make for such a sen­si­tive decision.

Yeah, it’s not the gov­ern­ment job to tell a fam­ily if they should hold slaves kill their chil­dren have an abortion.

Does that mean he would appoint Judges who would pro­tect abor­tion? If so, cripes I can get that from Mitt Romney.

Now that won’t hurt him with the tea party since it is a fis­cal rather than a social move­ment (no mat­ter what the left says) but for Catholics like me who first came to the GOP over social issues, Abor­tion is a sine-​non-​qua.

I am still unde­cided, I like Her­man Cain and I think 999 is a great idea, but this inter­view has def­i­nitely dropped Her­man Cain behind Rick San­to­rum on the list of can­di­dates I support.

Let me give some unso­licited advice to the cam­paign: Take a day off and sit down with your peo­ple and clearly delin­eate your posi­tions, because I’m telling you tweak­ing to make lib­er­als on CNN like you doesn’t fly.

Now Rick San­to­rum, you don’t get equiv­o­ca­tion like that, that’s the dif­fer­ence between an expe­ri­enced pol and an inex­pe­ri­enced one.

Here is the Cain video:

Update: For­got the block quote, but saw this at life news, saw this com­ing a mile away:

For­mer Sen­a­tor Rick San­to­rum responded to Cain’s remarks by issu­ing a state­ment say­ing Cain is not fully pro-​life:

Her­man Cain said that he believes life begins at con­cep­tion, but that it’s up to the indi­vid­ual to decide whether or not to ter­mi­nate that life. And I find it gravely trou­bling that Her­man believes it’s a life, but that he doesn’t con­sider it a life worth fight­ing for. As the author of the par­tial birth abor­tion ban and other pro-​life pieces of leg­is­la­tion, this is the exact men­tal­ity myself and other true pro-​life advo­cates fought against. In fact, Herman’s pro-​choice posi­tion is sim­i­lar to those held by John Kerry, Barack Obama and many oth­ers on the lib­eral left. No, Her­man, it is not ‘what­ever they decide,’this is an inno­cent human life. It is uncon­scionable for Her­man to run for the nom­i­na­tion of the Party that stands in defense of Life while show­ing dis­re­gard for the sanc­tity of Life. You can­not be both per­son­ally against abor­tion while con­don­ing it – you can’t have it both ways. We must defend the defense­less, period.”

Mitt Rom­ney and the estab­lish­ment GOP are fist pump­ing right now.

Update 2: I like Jim­mie Bise a lot, and read­ing this post its almost as if we have only one mind between us:

Chiefly, you must remem­ber that those jour­nal­ists are not your friends. Even if they are not openly hos­tile to you, they want their inter­view with you to make big news. They hope to get their name in the head­lines on Wednes­day because of their inter­view with you on Sun­day. You are no longer an inter­est­ing busi­ness­man or a talk show host but the man who wants to dethrone their beloved Barack Obama. They will not play fair. They will line up a series of “gotcha” ques­tions to trap you. Don’t give them a chance and for good­ness sake, don’t trap your­self. Like I said, that will be hard for you because you’ve built a rep­u­ta­tion as a straight-​shooter, but it’s a skill you’re going to have to learn fast.

I had actu­ally started an “Open Let­ter” post but this really said it per­fectly. And that’s a bit of advice EVERY GOP can­di­date should fol­low. The sec­ond piece of advice is more spe­cific to Her­man Cain:

That brings me to my sec­ond point. You need a solid inner cir­cle. They don’t have to be famous. They don’t have to be polit­i­cal. They do have to be smart and will­ing to tell you things you may not want to hear. And you have to trust them implic­itly. They will be the ones who pre­pare your for inter­views by play­ing Devil’s Advo­cate with you.

His last prob­lem is not get­ting blind­sided, cam­paigns are very busy, and you need an update every morn­ing, as Jimmy suggests:

This is where your inner cir­cle can help you immensely. Just spend some time dur­ing the day in con­ver­sa­tion with them about the news. You don’t have to drill deeply into the issues; table talk along will help give you the basic infor­ma­tion you need. Put some of the top­ics for upcom­ing inter­views on the table and kick them around over din­ner. Those talks will help you more than you think, and they’ll help you relax a bit, too.

Read it all, it’s perfect.

…particularly after this interview by Herman Cain:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.

Yeah, it’s not the government job to tell a family if they should hold slaves kill their children have an abortion.

Does that mean he would appoint Judges who would protect abortion? If so, cripes I can get that from Mitt Romney.

Now that won’t hurt him with the tea party since it is a fiscal rather than a social movement (no matter what the left says) but for Catholics like me who first came to the GOP over social issues, Abortion is a sine-non-qua.

I am still undecided, I like Herman Cain and I think 9-9-9 is a great idea, but this interview has definitely dropped Herman Cain behind Rick Santorum on the list of candidates I support.

Let me give some unsolicited advice to the campaign: Take a day off and sit down with your people and clearly delineate your positions, because I’m telling you tweaking to make liberals on CNN like you doesn’t fly.

Now Rick Santorum, you don’t get equivocation like that, that’s the difference between an experienced pol and an inexperienced one.

Here is the Cain video:

Update: Forgot the block quote, but saw this at life news, saw this coming a mile away:

Former Senator Rick Santorum responded to Cain’s remarks by issuing a statement saying Cain is not fully pro-life:

“Herman Cain said that he believes life begins at conception, but that it’s up to the individual to decide whether or not to terminate that life. And I find it gravely troubling that Herman believes it’s a life, but that he doesn’t consider it a life worth fighting for. As the author of the partial birth abortion ban and other pro-life pieces of legislation, this is the exact mentality myself and other true pro-life advocates fought against. In fact, Herman’s pro-choice position is similar to those held by John Kerry, Barack Obama and many others on the liberal left. No, Herman, it is not ‘whatever they decide,’this is an innocent human life. It is unconscionable for Herman to run for the nomination of the Party that stands in defense of Life while showing disregard for the sanctity of Life. You cannot be both personally against abortion while condoning it – you can’t have it both ways. We must defend the defenseless, period.”

Mitt Romney and the establishment GOP are fist pumping right now.

Update 2: I like Jimmie Bise a lot, and reading this post its almost as if we have only one mind between us:

Chiefly, you must remember that those journalists are not your friends. Even if they are not openly hostile to you, they want their interview with you to make big news. They hope to get their name in the headlines on Wednesday because of their interview with you on Sunday. You are no longer an interesting businessman or a talk show host but the man who wants to dethrone their beloved Barack Obama. They will not play fair. They will line up a series of “gotcha” questions to trap you. Don’t give them a chance and for goodness sake, don’t trap yourself. Like I said, that will be hard for you because you’ve built a reputation as a straight-shooter, but it’s a skill you’re going to have to learn fast.

I had actually started an “Open Letter” post but this really said it perfectly. And that’s a bit of advice EVERY GOP candidate should follow. The second piece of advice is more specific to Herman Cain:

That brings me to my second point. You need a solid inner circle. They don’t have to be famous. They don’t have to be political. They do have to be smart and willing to tell you things you may not want to hear. And you have to trust them implicitly. They will be the ones who prepare your for interviews by playing Devil’s Advocate with you.

His last problem is not getting blindsided, campaigns are very busy, and you need an update every morning, as Jimmy suggests:

This is where your inner circle can help you immensely. Just spend some time during the day in conversation with them about the news. You don’t have to drill deeply into the issues; table talk along will help give you the basic information you need. Put some of the topics for upcoming interviews on the table and kick them around over dinner. Those talks will help you more than you think, and they’ll help you relax a bit, too.

Read it all, it’s perfect.

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