My problems with the new Cain accusations

by Datechguy | November 7th, 2011

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My problems with the new Cain accusations

I’ve already quoted Stacy McCain’s thoughts on the new accu­sa­tions of this case, now let me add my own.

I remem­ber when the fatwa came out on Salman Rushdie and peo­ple ran out to buy his book because of it. I thought about it myself but then said: “Would I buy this book if there was not a threat, and if I buy it due to the threat am I not let­ting it move me?”

I kept my money in my pocket (full dis­clo­sure, I’m cheap!)

I remem­bered this when I saw this piece from Larry Kla­van:

we’re the good guys. We have to do what’s right. The left doesn’t. Sorry, but that’s the way it works. It’s the price you pay for defend­ing what’s true and good, the price of hold­ing your­self to a high moral stan­dard. Our politi­cians have to be bet­ter than their politi­cians. Our jour­nal­ists have to be more hon­est. Even our pro­test­ers have to behave with deco­rum and decency — and still suf­fer being slan­dered — while theirs can act like ani­mals and com­mit acts of vio­lence and law­less­ness and spew anti-​Semitic filth and still find them­selves excused and glorified.

Odd or no, fair or unfair it’s up to indi­vid­u­als to decide if you want to buy this. Undoubt­edly some will believe her and some will not but what can’t do is sell our judge­ment to our instincts just because we don’t like the media.

So Instead I watched it to judge for myself.

After watch­ing it I find her state­ment cer­tainly pos­si­ble, but then again I also find Her­man Cain’s denial pos­si­ble, but my gut says this is fishy because of the sequence:

1. We have the politico story, with totally unnamed accu­sa­tions by unnamed accusers.

2. We have the press spend a week push­ing said story with­out ques­tion­ing the lack of said peo­ple and sources

3. We then have the press push for the NRA to drop confidentially

4. They do and the accuser takes a powder.

5. All dur­ing this time Cain not only main­tains his lead but fundraises more in said week than he did in the pre­vi­ous month.

6. and THEN the other accuser pops up with a high-​powered ambu­lance chas­ing Demo­c­ra­tic par­ti­san at her side.

So lets sum­ma­rize. After a week of try­ing to destroy Cain with­out evi­dence fails sud­denly dif­fer­ent evi­dence comes for­ward, and doesn’t just come for­ward but with Glo­ria Allred and you expect me to buy this as sold?

If this woman had come for­ward when she claims she encoun­tered Cain after the tea party event I might think dif­fer­ently but there is one other fac­tor from her story that comes to mind.

Con­sider the story: This woman has just lost her job and has just had an encounter with Cain after los­ing her job, she doesn’t have a sex­ual harass­ment case, but if he laid hands on her, as she said, unless I’m very much mis­taken that is not only action­able, but for a per­son who has just lost a job and needs a new one a poten­tial source of rev­enue from a rather well off per­son in an orga­ni­za­tion who would have a lot to lose. Yet she did noth­ing.

I find that odd, don’t you?

Is there a chance she is being straight? Sure, but the lack of evi­dence and sequence of events sug­gests oth­er­wise. So sans actual evi­dence I’m going to go with Cain on this

It’s unlikely the media will do the same, as the Anchoress points out:

My advice to Cain has not changed he has to tell the truth, but then again I think he already is.

Finally the Novem­ber fundraiser is going on with­out a top page post, please con­sider kick­ing in.

Update: Legal Insur­rec­tion com­ments, key phrase:

Allred did not allow Bialek to answer any questions.

As she is not part of any suit I find that.…interesting.

Update 2: Big Gov­ern­ment for the pros­e­cu­tion:

Part of Ms. Bialek’s state­ment included the descrip­tion of a per­sonal encounter she claimed to have had Mr. Cain at WIND’s Tea­con in Octo­ber of 2011. She claims to have con­fronted Mr. Cain and that he became uncom­fort­able after he rec­og­nized her.

Big Gov­ern­ment has spo­ken with a source who helped orga­nize Tea­con 2011 and who con­firmed that Sharon Bialek attended, as did Mr. Cain (who was a fea­tured speaker).

Our source also remem­bers Ms. Bialek per­son­ally, and there­fore can con­firm that the woman who attended was not a dif­fer­ent woman with the same name.

That does not affirm or deny the sub­stance of Ms. Bialek’s alle­ga­tions, nor her account of her inter­ac­tion with Mr. Cain at Teacon.

True but it con­firms part of her story. That’s important.

Update 3: And for the Defense the Chicago Sun Times:

They hugged each other back­stage in a full embrace like old friends.

She grabbed his arm and whis­pered in his left ear.

She kept talk­ing as he bent to lis­ten, and he kept say­ing “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”

Huh?

I don’t know if what she was giv­ing him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talk­ing to him,” said the Sneed source.

Not what you’d call a “con­fronta­tion” is it? And Dr. Helen answers Kla­van

The point is, we must not let the left use our moral­ity to hold us hostage. You may never catch the devil hang­ing on the cross, but your dou­ble stan­dard will leave the right hang­ing in defeat, just like Uncle Phil, but with­out the safety net of his oppo­nent dying. Life isn’t a nos­tal­gic TV show or fic­tion book. The good guy doesn’t always win just because you want him to. And though you can feel noble about being the hon­or­able one, honor is no sub­sti­tute for the loss of free­dom, increased gov­ern­ment reg­u­la­tion, and eco­nomic woes that our coun­try will suf­fer if the left wins on elec­tion day.

Hey maybe we should ask Bill Clin­ton, or not

I’ve already quoted Stacy McCain’s thoughts on the new accusations of this case, now let me add my own.

I remember when the fatwa came out on Salman Rushdie and people ran out to buy his book because of it. I thought about it myself but then said: “Would I buy this book if there was not a threat, and if I buy it due to the threat am I not letting it move me?”

I kept my money in my pocket (full disclosure, I’m cheap!)

I remembered this when I saw this piece from Larry Klavan:

we’re the good guys. We have to do what’s right. The left doesn’t. Sorry, but that’s the way it works. It’s the price you pay for defending what’s true and good, the price of holding yourself to a high moral standard. Our politicians have to be better than their politicians. Our journalists have to be more honest. Even our protesters have to behave with decorum and decency—and still suffer being slandered—while theirs can act like animals and commit acts of violence and lawlessness and spew anti-Semitic filth and still find themselves excused and glorified.

Odd or no, fair or unfair it’s up to individuals to decide if you want to buy this. Undoubtedly some will believe her and some will not but what can’t do is sell our judgement to our instincts just because we don’t like the media.

So Instead I watched it to judge for myself.

After watching it I find her statement certainly possible, but then again I also find Herman Cain’s denial possible, but my gut says this is fishy because of the sequence:

1. We have the politico story, with totally unnamed accusations by unnamed accusers.

2. We have the press spend a week pushing said story without questioning the lack of said people and sources

3. We then have the press push for the NRA to drop confidentially

4. They do and the accuser takes a powder.

5. All during this time Cain not only maintains his lead but fundraises more in said week than he did in the previous month.

6. and THEN the other accuser pops up with a high-powered ambulance chasing Democratic partisan at her side.

So lets summarize. After a week of trying to destroy Cain without evidence fails suddenly different evidence comes forward, and doesn’t just come forward but with Gloria Allred and you expect me to buy this as sold?

If this woman had come forward when she claims she encountered Cain after the tea party event I might think differently but there is one other factor from her story that comes to mind.

Consider the story: This woman has just lost her job and has just had an encounter with Cain after losing her job, she doesn’t have a sexual harassment case, but if he laid hands on her, as she said, unless I’m very much mistaken that is not only actionable, but for a person who has just lost a job and needs a new one a potential source of revenue from a rather well off person in an organization who would have a lot to lose. Yet she did nothing.

I find that odd, don’t you?

Is there a chance she is being straight? Sure, but the lack of evidence and sequence of events suggests otherwise. So sans actual evidence I’m going to go with Cain on this

It’s unlikely the media will do the same, as the Anchoress points out:

My advice to Cain has not changed he has to tell the truth, but then again I think he already is.

Finally the November fundraiser is going on without a top page post, please consider kicking in.

Update: Legal Insurrection comments, key phrase:

Allred did not allow Bialek to answer any questions.

As she is not part of any suit I find that….interesting.

Update 2: Big Government for the prosecution:

Part of Ms. Bialek’s statement included the description of a personal encounter she claimed to have had Mr. Cain at WIND’s Teacon in October of 2011. She claims to have confronted Mr. Cain and that he became uncomfortable after he recognized her.

Big Government has spoken with a source who helped organize Teacon 2011 and who confirmed that Sharon Bialek attended, as did Mr. Cain (who was a featured speaker).

Our source also remembers Ms. Bialek personally, and therefore can confirm that the woman who attended was not a different woman with the same name.

That does not affirm or deny the substance of Ms. Bialek’s allegations, nor her account of her interaction with Mr. Cain at Teacon.

True but it confirms part of her story. That’s important.

Update 3: And for the Defense the Chicago Sun Times:

They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.

She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.

She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.”

Huh?

“I don’t know if what she was giving him was a sucker punch, but he didn’t put his arm down while she was talking to him,” said the Sneed source.

Not what you’d call a “confrontation” is it? And Dr. Helen answers Klavan

The point is, we must not let the left use our morality to hold us hostage. You may never catch the devil hanging on the cross, but your double standard will leave the right hanging in defeat, just like Uncle Phil, but without the safety net of his opponent dying. Life isn’t a nostalgic TV show or fiction book. The good guy doesn’t always win just because you want him to. And though you can feel noble about being the honorable one, honor is no substitute for the loss of freedom, increased government regulation, and economic woes that our country will suffer if the left wins on election day.

Hey maybe we should ask Bill Clinton, or not

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