MSNBC answers Stacy McCain’s question about women

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MSNBC answers Stacy McCain's question about women

Stacy McCain notes the large gen­der gap in the occu­pod move­ment and comes up with a sim­ple expla­na­tion (empha­sis mine):

There are prob­a­bly women who aren’t both­ered much by poor hygiene, and there may be women who aren’t both­ered by a lack of toi­let and bathing facil­i­ties. But I think you’ll have a hard time find­ing women who aren’t both­ered by the kind of bad stuff that hap­pens to women when they’re con­stantly sur­rounded by a bunch of scummy, preda­tory cop-​haters: Rape, sex­ual assault, sex­ual assault, rape, sex­ual assault, inde­cent expo­sure, sex­ual assault, gang rape … You get the picture.

He has a point, and Verun Serum elab­o­rates:

Which brings me to the sub­ject of the occu­piers stance on snitch­ing. First hand reports (by women) indi­cate that report­ing of assaults is dis­cour­aged. One woman at Occupy Wall Street told the New York Post “We don’t tell anyone…We han­dle it inter­nally. I said too much already.” My own orig­i­nal report­ing on the sit­u­a­tion at Occupy Bal­ti­more indi­cated that sex­ual harass­ment was a com­mon com­plaint, but orga­niz­ers didn’t want word of it leak­ing to the media. One fem­i­nist who recently vis­ited Occupy Edin­burgh found it was sex­ist and reports that women were told not to dis­cuss a rape that allegedly occurred at Occupy Glasgow.

Any con­ser­v­a­tive group with such a record toward women would be denounced as misog­y­nis­tic troglodytes. But because OWS is pro­gres­sive, Dupuy min­i­mizes the prob­lems at the camps as “a cou­ple of alleged rapes.” She spends more time focus­ing on how women might be bet­ter rep­re­sented in the gen­eral assem­blies than the actual record of assault and harass­ment toward women in the camps. Dupuy is at pains to sug­gest a state­ment of zero tol­er­ance toward assault (which shouldn’t really need to be stated, should it?) is a way to address the problem:

Per­son­ally I sus­pect a belief in the 2nd amend­ment would make a huge dif­fer­ence for women uncom­fort­able in the occupy camps.

Get­ting back to Stacy’s state­ment I think he’s wrong. There is appar­ently at least one woman who is not both­ered by these things. It’s the same woman who declares that the bud­get would be bal­anced if only women were run­ning it. It’s the same woman who for weeks has ignored the dan­ger to women at these camps and is only out­raged by actions of the police to counter them.

You can find this woman every morn­ing at 6 a.m. on MSNBC, but judge her not too hard, she lives in her opaque plas­tic bub­ble and can not see out of it. She cer­tainly can’t see the occu­pod rap sheet.

The log­i­cal sug­ges­tion would be to have her daugh­ters (who she claims are doing school work on the occupy move­ment) to camp overnight to prove me , Verum Serum and Stacy wrong. But there is logic and polit­i­cal advan­tage and there is right and wrong. I’ve said before I’m more Catholic than Sicil­ian. and the Occupy Movement’s Ome­tra not with­stand­ing, I could not coun­te­nance any such act. No amount of polit­i­cal advan­tage would be worth expos­ing them to the dan­gers of the occupy camps for even a sin­gle night.

Stacy McCain notes the large gender gap in the occupod movement and comes up with a simple explanation (emphasis mine):

There are probably women who aren’t bothered much by poor hygiene, and there may be women who aren’t bothered by a lack of toilet and bathing facilities. But I think you’ll have a hard time finding women who aren’t bothered by the kind of bad stuff that happens to women when they’re constantly surrounded by a bunch of scummy, predatory cop-haters: Rape, sexual assault, sexual assault, rape, sexual assault, indecent exposure, sexual assault, gang rape . . . You get the picture.

He has a point, and Verun Serum elaborates:

Which brings me to the subject of the occupiers stance on snitching. First hand reports (by women) indicate that reporting of assaults is discouraged. One woman at Occupy Wall Street told the New York Post “We don’t tell anyone…We handle it internally. I said too much already.” My own original reporting on the situation at Occupy Baltimore indicated that sexual harassment was a common complaint, but organizers didn’t want word of it leaking to the media. One feminist who recently visited Occupy Edinburgh found it was sexist and reports that women were told not to discuss a rape that allegedly occurred at Occupy Glasgow.

Any conservative group with such a record toward women would be denounced as misogynistic troglodytes. But because OWS is progressive, Dupuy minimizes the problems at the camps as “a couple of alleged rapes.” She spends more time focusing on how women might be better represented in the general assemblies than the actual record of assault and harassment toward women in the camps. Dupuy is at pains to suggest a statement of zero tolerance toward assault (which shouldn’t really need to be stated, should it?) is a way to address the problem:

Personally I suspect a belief in the 2nd amendment would make a huge difference for women uncomfortable in the occupy camps.

Getting back to Stacy’s statement I think he’s wrong. There is apparently at least one woman who is not bothered by these things. It’s the same woman who declares that the budget would be balanced if only women were running it. It’s the same woman who for weeks has ignored the danger to women at these camps and is only outraged by actions of the police to counter them.

You can find this woman every morning at 6 a.m. on MSNBC, but judge her not too hard, she lives in her opaque plastic bubble and can not see out of it. She certainly can’t see the occupod rap sheet.

The logical suggestion would be to have her daughters (who she claims are doing school work on the occupy movement) to camp overnight to prove me , Verum Serum and Stacy wrong. But there is logic and political advantage and there is right and wrong. I’ve said before I’m more Catholic than Sicilian. and the Occupy Movement’s Ometra not withstanding, I could not countenance any such act. No amount of political advantage would be worth exposing them to the dangers of the occupy camps for even a single night.