If you want to call out someone Steven Taylor call out yourself

by Datechguy | April 25th, 2012

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If you want to call out someone Steven Taylor call out yourself

Hazel: Is cowslip com­ing? Maybe he knows.

Fiver: He wouldn’t come. He told me to stop talk­ing about it

Water­ship Down 1978 Richard Adams

I should be in bed now but I just read the most self-​righteous prat­tle I’ve seen in a long time:

And yes: I am call­ing peo­ple out, many of whom may actu­ally read this and respond (please, feel free). I think, how­ever, some­times peo­ple need to be called out over the petty usage of seri­ous top­ics sim­ply to try and give your “side” (what­ever that may mean) a boost. Where is the recog­ni­tion that a) in the Mar­tin case a kid is dead, b) in the Owens case a man hov­ers near death, and c) racism is still a seri­ous prob­lem that we have to be hon­est about in the US?

What is he call­ing out Glenn Reynolds, Stacy McCain and Jim Treacher out for? For dar­ing to sug­gest that the MSM that pushed the Trayvon Mar­tin case for­ward doing their best to turn it into a national racial inci­dent (even to the point of alter­ing evi­dence pre­sented to the pub­lic) and the White House and the jus­tice depart­ment, bear some respon­si­bil­ity for the “revenge” attacks that have since taken place and fur­ther­more said racial attacks. Fur­ther they note the dou­ble stan­dard that these attacks, although directly related to the base mar­i­nate that they cre­ated are not appar­ently worth the same cov­er­age or media scrutiny.

Yes I can see how that incon­ve­nient truth would make some peo­ple uncom­fort­able, just as the fact that the lead­ing cause of death for young black men today is young black men makes peo­ple uncom­fort­able, just as the pub­lic calls for the mur­der of George Zim­mer­man with­out trial and the judge who granted him bond makes peo­ple uncom­fort­able and just as the appar­ent use of the prosecutor’s office for polit­i­cal cover and appease­ment might make peo­ple uncom­fort­able too.

How dare Reynolds, Treacher, McCain, Rick Moran, and John Hin­der­aker voice these uncom­fort­able truths. Much bet­ter that they remain silent and these inci­dents are ignored, because if we acknowl­edge their exis­tence then we might have to do some­thing about it and that could upset the social peace and tran­quil­ity. It’s bet­ter for all con­cerned to just let it go.

I know this argu­ment. I’ve heard it directed against friends of mine before and I hold those who make such a case against my friends in con­tempt not just out of friend­ship but because the argu­ment is so famil­iar. After all its the same case made over and over in the Jim Crow south dur­ing the 19th and 20th cen­turies when uncom­fort­able truths were put before a pow­er­ful estab­lish­ment des­per­ate to main­tain the sta­tus quo.

Update: I’m sure your fail­ure to go after my friend Bruce McQuain was sim­ply an oversight.

Update 2: And you know what I bet we should pre­tend this didn’t hap­pen either:

Update 3: Linked by Dan Riehl, full dis­clo­sure I am a tea drinker too. Treacher doesn’t link but says this:

Oh, by the way: Point­ing out the very real con­se­quences of race-​baiting is just “scor­ing polit­i­cal points.” See, if you dis­agree with a lib­eral, then every­thing you say is just to spite lib­er­als. It’s always about them.

Update 4: Tay­lor answers say­ing I’m stick­ing up for “ide­o­log­i­cal allies”. Mr. Tay­lor Stacy McCain, Dan Riehl and Bruce McQuain are friends and although I’ve never met Glenn Reynolds face to face, we have talked via phone, via inter­views and exchanged e-​mails for years I con­sider him a friend too. We Amer­i­cans of Sicil­ian ances­try stick up for our friends.

As for your follow-​up argu­ment, my full answer to your straw-​man is here, and I say staw-​man because while you give it the old col­lege try to de-​link the mobile case to the Mar­tin hys­te­ria, you will have a much harder time doing the same to the inci­dents in Bal­ti­more and Chicago.

It’s like those in denial over Islamic ter­ror, noth­ing to see here move along.

Hazel: Is cowslip coming? Maybe he knows.

Fiver: He wouldn’t come. He told me to stop talking about it

Watership Down 1978 Richard Adams

I should be in bed now but I just read the most self-righteous prattle I’ve seen in a long time:

And yes: I am calling people out, many of whom may actually read this and respond (please, feel free). I think, however, sometimes people need to be called out over the petty usage of serious topics simply to try and give your “side” (whatever that may mean) a boost. Where is the recognition that a) in the Martin case a kid is dead, b) in the Owens case a man hovers near death, and c) racism is still a serious problem that we have to be honest about in the US?

What is he calling out Glenn Reynolds, Stacy McCain and Jim Treacher out for? For daring to suggest that the MSM that pushed the Trayvon Martin case forward doing their best to turn it into a national racial incident (even to the point of altering evidence presented to the public) and the White House and the justice department, bear some responsibility for the “revenge” attacks that have since taken place and furthermore said racial attacks. Further they note the double standard that these attacks, although directly related to the base marinate that they created are not apparently worth the same coverage or media scrutiny.

Yes I can see how that inconvenient truth would make some people uncomfortable, just as the fact that the leading cause of death for young black men today is young black men makes people uncomfortable, just as the public calls for the murder of George Zimmerman without trial and the judge who granted him bond makes people uncomfortable and just as the apparent use of the prosecutor’s office for political cover and appeasement might make people uncomfortable too.

How dare Reynolds, Treacher, McCain, Rick Moran, and John Hinderaker voice these uncomfortable truths. Much better that they remain silent and these incidents are ignored, because if we acknowledge their existence then we might have to do something about it and that could upset the social peace and tranquility. It’s better for all concerned to just let it go.

I know this argument. I’ve heard it directed against friends of mine before and I hold those who make such a case against my friends in contempt not just out of friendship but because the argument is so familiar. After all its the same case made over and over in the Jim Crow south during the 19th and 20th centuries when uncomfortable truths were put before a powerful establishment desperate to maintain the status quo.

Update: I’m sure your failure to go after my friend Bruce McQuain was simply an oversight.

Update 2: And you know what I bet we should pretend this didn’t happen either:

Update 3: Linked by Dan Riehl, full disclosure I am a tea drinker too. Treacher doesn’t link but says this:

Oh, by the way: Pointing out the very real consequences of race-baiting is just “scoring political points.” See, if you disagree with a liberal, then everything you say is just to spite liberals. It’s always about them.

Update 4: Taylor answers saying I’m sticking up for “ideological allies”. Mr. Taylor Stacy McCain, Dan Riehl and Bruce McQuain are friends and although I’ve never met Glenn Reynolds face to face, we have talked via phone, via interviews and exchanged e-mails for years I consider him a friend too. We Americans of Sicilian ancestry stick up for our friends.

As for your follow-up argument, my full answer to your straw-man is here, and I say staw-man because while you give it the old college try to de-link the mobile case to the Martin hysteria, you will have a much harder time doing the same to the incidents in Baltimore and Chicago.

It’s like those in denial over Islamic terror, nothing to see here move along.

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