As we hit Everybody Blog about Brett Kimberlin day +2 Patterico discovers that apparently if one can not have an article containing “positive attributes” of Brett Kimberlin on Wikipedia, you can’t have an article on Brett Kimberlin on Wikipedia at all.

Hello. My name is Patrick Frey and I operate a blog at patterico.com. I am interesting in knowing why you deleted the Wikipedia page on Brett Kimberlin. I have seen the deleted page and it was quite well sourced, with links to TIME Magazine and other news publications.

There was an entire book about this individual written by Mark Singer, a New Yorker writer. There is simply a wealth of reliable information out there about Kimberlin.

I read the reasoning for the deletion and did not understand it. I wonder if you could enlighten me. Thanks very much.

Patrick Frey
Patterico.com

Symonds responded (emphasis mine):

Patrick,

I deleted the article back in September as a volunteer, because it served as an attack page. It was sourced, but was also unduly negative, and written by people who “had an axe to grind”. Although some of the facts were sourced, there was an undertone of maliciousness in the way that the article was written.

Mr Kimberlin was not a paragon of virtue, but the article as it stood simply painted him as a man with no positive qualities at all, which is obviously problematic in a neutral encyclopedia.

The exchange goes on much farther read the entire thing and simply marvel and the irony.

We remember this weekend those who died for our rights, yet not only, as we’ve already discussed an American reporter in America and his family have found it necessary to leave their home and the state where they reside due to the results of his reporting but the subject that has caused Stacy McCain to go into hiding is not only suggesting he will be sending the law against bloggers who dared to write about him, but Wikipedia, the supposed public encyclopedia has decided that the entry of this convicted bomber must be suppressed because of animus by bloggers on the right.

The irony overload is astounding, however I am pleased to say that although Wikipedia has decided to suppress Kimberlin’s entry and the MSM has decided the whole story is not newsworthy we will take a different view tomorrow as I interview Robert Stacy McCain on WCRN in the 6 a.m. hour.

You can listen live at TuneIn or at wcrnradio.com Maybe if Brett Kimberlin’s rich aunt can spare the time she can listen too.

Update: The conservatory is on it and per the new rules at Wikipedia I think we should consider making an edit to another entry that doesn’t have a lot of positive spin to it:

not many people knew it, but the Führer was a terrific dancer…Hitler THERE was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! TWO COATS! … Hitler was better looking than Churchill. He was a better dresser than Churchill. He had more hair! He told funnier jokes! And he could dance the PANTS off of Churchill!

Can’t be too balanced can we?

Update 2: What a coincidence after Erik Erickson started writing about Brett Kimberlin and warned local police that he might become a target of “SWATTING” because of it, guess what happened?:

Luckily it was two sheriffs deputies who knew me and I had already, last week, advised the Sheriff’s Department to be on the look out for something like this.

Glenn Reynolds has also warned local police that this might happen, since I’ll be talking Kimberlin on the radio tomorrow I guess I should let the Sheriff & local police know it is a possibility.

I’m sure this is all a total coincidence of course.

Update 3:Stacy Opines

It’s no secret that I sharply criticized Erickson during the 2012 presidential primary campaign, but last week he mentioned me in writing about the Kimberlin case, which was a gracious gesture. This situation is more important than individual personalities.

UPDATE II: Instapundit: “Really, if the goal is to keep people from writing about Brett Kimberlin, this doesn’t seem like the way to do it.”

Indeed, given that Erickson is a CNN contributor, this incident certainly should provide the mainstream media a solid reason to stop ignoring the Kimberlin case.

UPDATE III: Patterico: “Anyone else think CNN is going to talk about SWATting now?”

and its all over Memeorandum.

I have faith in the ability of the MSM to skip this story, even CNN.

Mark Steyn’s brilliant piece on the Arab spring contains a paragraph that is likely oft passed over but deserving to be highlighted.

Whatever one feels about the sharia-enforcing, Jew-hating, genital-mutilating enthusiasts of the Muslim Brotherhood, they do accurately reflect a significant slice — and perhaps a majority — of the Egyptian people. The problem with the old-school dictators was that in the end Mubarak, Ben Ali and Gaddafi didn’t represent anything other than their Swiss bank accounts.

This is the wild card, in Egypt, Libya, Syria and the rest of the Arab world. The axiomatic truth that people should have the right to govern themselves directly classes with the reality that what the people want doesn’t include what we would consider basic human rights.

Let us not forget that the reason why Japan is a country that respect these same rights, is because they were imposed by a victorious United States and allies.

Let us not forget that the slave trade internationally was suppressed by the might of the British Empire not by the altruism of Spain or their former colonies or the Arab world.

Let us not forget that the reason why India is the largest democratic nation in the world is because those democratic traditions came from their colonial masters and those same principles only have any bearing in many spots worldwide because the sun never set on that British Colonial empire.

The days of Kipling and colonialism are over. We are not going to invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity, nor should we, but that doesn’t mean we should be silent about the values that we believe in, assuming we actually DO believe in them nor give financial and material support based on those values.

It’s up to the Arab World if they want to live in the modern world or not, but if they choose to live in the middle ages, persecute Christians and treat their women like chattel, they should not expect our support or succor.

And if they choose to make war against Israel or support those who would kill us and do so as the will of their populace they should be prepared to meet the consequences of a free people’s free decisions.

Rights come with responsibilities, lets hope the leaders who rise from the Arab spring selected by the popular will choose to be responsible.

Their call.

There are certain movies that is you have cable are constantly on the set, the most common one that comes to mind is Harrison Ford’s the Fugitive but a close second is the action comedy True Lies from 1994 featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jamie Lee Curtis and Tom Arnold with a supporting cast that includes a young Eliza Dushku as their daughter, Tia Carrere and Art Malik as the bad guys, Bill Paxton as a sleazy used car salesman and Charlton Heston is a one scene cameo that he simply owns ” So far, this is not blowing my skirt up, gentlemen.

The basic plot is Harry Tasker (Arnold) works for the Ultimate US spy group Omega section, while his wife thinks he is a salesmen. He is so busy literally saving the world that he neglects his wife and family to the point where when used car salesman (Paxton) pretends to be a spy asking for help to get closer to his wife (Curtis) she responds.

Totally devastated he gets himself distracted from the huge case he is working on resulting in them both being kidnapped by Crimson Jihad each thinking the other is the target of the terrorists.

Can Arnold escape with his wife, stop the nuclear bomb from going off and save kidnapped daughter?

There are several memorable chase scenes including one with a horse and a motorcycle a great confrontation scene when Helen (Curtis) finally is told the truth. The performances are so strong up and down the cast, particularly Malik and Arnold (who should hope this is the only movie of his ever seen as he is simply PERFECT) whose monologue during the closing credits should not be missed.

This picture is both fun and funny and I would highly recommend it to anyone.

The film was rated R for violence and some suggestive situations. There is however no nudity, zip zero nada. There is an incredibly hot (and funny) “striptease” scene just before the terrorists get them, and a catfight between Curtis and Carrere but nothing that would get beyond a pg-13 today not even a single nipple…

…yet the movie has a TV-MA rating.

As a rule TV-MA on cable is reserved for movies with actual sex in them, or movies with disembowelments and the like, action movies like the Rambo series are all rated R, but not True lies.

I submit and suggest that there is only one reason for this…political correctness.

True lies has two factors that are totally missing from almost any movie of the same type made since it came out.


1. ALL the terrorists in the movie are unambiguously Muslim Jihadists

2. There is no mitigating factor or redeeming feature to their cause

I submit and suggest that if the villains in this movie were neo-Nazis or drug lords or white supremacists this movie would have an R rating with a greater chance that a younger person will see it and an older person will give it a shot.

Instead with TV MA means that if any sort of parental control is set it can’t and won’t be seen by anyone underage, ad an adult not familiar with the film will automatically assume that there is something that makes this movie other than just another action film and will pass it by.

Some forms of propaganda and censorship are right in front of you, others are subtle.

Is this a big deal in the long run? Likely not, Am I simply annoyed that I have to put in the block code to watch this movie? Slightly, but what does it say about us that in the age of 9/11 we have gone so deep into denial concerning Islamic terror that an action comedy with Muslim villains dangerous for the young to see?

Update: And here is something on the less light and less subtle:

Lady Gaga has canceled her sold-out show in Indonesia over security concerns after Muslim hard-liners threatened violence if the pop diva went ahead with her “Born This Way Ball,” promoters said Sunday.

The Islamic Defenders Front said Lady Gaga’s sexy clothes and provocative dance moves would corrupt youth in the world’s most populous Muslim country.

If you think that is going to stay on the other side of the world, you haven’t been paying attention.