Answer: When the poll is reported on the “Opinion” page

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Answer: When the poll is reported on the "Opinion" page

Ques­tion: When can you tell when a poll report is try­ing to spin you?

Greg Yes I report what Media Mat­ters says, it’s just a form of out­sourc­ing Sar­gent. breath­lessly reports that Wis­con­sin is a dead heat accord­ing to an auto­mated poll, and rein­forces his argu­ment with an “inter­nal” demo­c­ra­tic poll by a using group call­ing Wis­con­sin a “dead heat”

In para­graph 7 he finally finds a poll that is worth questioning:

A pub­lic poll taken from May 1722 by Saint Nor­bert Col­lege found Walker ahead 5045, though that remained in the poll’s mar­gin of error. Union offi­cials ques­tioned its sam­pling, and a poll­ster for Bar­rett argued to Chris Cil­lizza that some of the pub­lic polling had been taken before Bar­rett mounted his TV ad offen­sive against Walker.

So the poll that shows Walker ahead, con­sis­tent with report after report is ques­tioned, in fact polling in gen­eral is called out in the last paragraph:

Indeed, even neu­tral Wis­con­sin polit­i­cal observers believe that pub­lic polling of this race may not be pre­dic­tive, since turnout in a mid-​year guber­na­to­r­ial recall elec­tion is impos­si­ble to anticipate.

Yeah who believes these polls anyway?

The post gets updated with the results of the Mar­quette Law School poll with Walker up seven. Sar­gent notes it’s “just inside the mar­gin of error” and quotes a dif­fer­ent source say­ing Walk­ers lead is under a point. That source? Talk­ing Points Memo!

Sargent’s piece whether a press release for TPM & Media Mat­ters or an attempt to con one more bit of work or dol­lar from demo­c­rat loy­al­ists who ignore any non MMFA approved source does have a glim­mer of truth (as any good pro­pa­ganda does), in ques­tion­ing reliance of polls. I’m a big believer in watch­ing actions instead so lets look at the actions:

Item: The National Demo­c­rat party has pulled money out of the race.

Item: We see Deb­bie Was­sar­man Schultz insist­ing that Wis­con­sin is all about Wis­con­sin with no national impli­ca­tions.

As although as I type this Joe Scar­bor­ough just asked Van Jones why the pres­i­dent wasn’t in Wis­con­sin, (Jones changed the sub­ject at once) the MSM that was once all Wis­con­sin all the time sud­denly doesn’t find the recall all that interesting.

Frankly Greg I would include your own post as more evi­dence of the point I’ve been mak­ing right along:


Ride Right Through them, they’re demor­al­ized as Hell!

One year ago in March E.D. Kain was call­ing Wis­con­sin the GOP Water­loo. It was a joke then and 15 months later the only ques­tion left is this: Will the Unions be exiled to Elba or St. Helena?

Question: When can you tell when a poll report is trying to spin you?

Greg Yes I report what Media Matters says, it’s just a form of outsourcing Sargent. breathlessly reports that Wisconsin is a dead heat according to an automated poll, and reinforces his argument with an “internal” democratic poll by a using group calling Wisconsin a “dead heat”

In paragraph 7 he finally finds a poll that is worth questioning:

A public poll taken from May 17-22 by Saint Norbert College found Walker ahead 50-45, though that remained in the poll’s margin of error. Union officials questioned its sampling, and a pollster for Barrett argued to Chris Cillizza that some of the public polling had been taken before Barrett mounted his TV ad offensive against Walker.

So the poll that shows Walker ahead, consistent with report after report is questioned, in fact polling in general is called out in the last paragraph:

Indeed, even neutral Wisconsin political observers believe that public polling of this race may not be predictive, since turnout in a mid-year gubernatorial recall election is impossible to anticipate.

Yeah who believes these polls anyway?

The post gets updated with the results of the Marquette Law School poll with Walker up seven. Sargent notes it’s “just inside the margin of error” and quotes a different source saying Walkers lead is under a point. That source? Talking Points Memo!

Sargent’s piece whether a press release for TPM & Media Matters or an attempt to con one more bit of work or dollar from democrat loyalists who ignore any non MMFA approved source does have a glimmer of truth (as any good propaganda does), in questioning reliance of polls. I’m a big believer in watching actions instead so lets look at the actions:

Item: The National Democrat party has pulled money out of the race.

Item: We see Debbie Wassarman Schultz insisting that Wisconsin is all about Wisconsin with no national implications.

As although as I type this Joe Scarborough just asked Van Jones why the president wasn’t in Wisconsin, (Jones changed the subject at once) the MSM that was once all Wisconsin all the time suddenly doesn’t find the recall all that interesting.

Frankly Greg I would include your own post as more evidence of the point I’ve been making right along:


Ride Right Through them, they’re demoralized as Hell!

One year ago in March E.D. Kain was calling Wisconsin the GOP Waterloo. It was a joke then and 15 months later the only question left is this: Will the Unions be exiled to Elba or St. Helena?