Scooby Doo, Basil Faulty and the Morning Joe Team

by Datechguy | June 12th, 2012

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Scooby Doo, Basil Faulty and the Morning Joe Team

I’d have got­ten away with it too if it wasn’t for those med­dling kids

Scooby Doo Where are you (19691972)

Right, well I’ll go and have a lie down then. No I won’t; I’ll go and hit some guests.

Basil Faulty Faulty Tow­ers (1975)

A Congressman’s first duty is to get re-​elected

Sam Ray­burn

Just 24 hours after MSNBC view­ers where shocked to learn that John McCain’s gaffe’s con­cern­ing the econ­omy and NOT the selec­tion of Sarah Palin had every­thing to do with his defeat in 2008 Joe Scar­bor­ough and com­pany slipped back into stan­dard MSNBC mode.

Cit­ing Jeb Bush’s remarks he talks about how closed the Repub­li­can Party has become, Mike Bar­ni­cle brought up the 101 ratio busi­ness and Joe took a swipe at blog­gers and tweet­ers in the process with the panel all back­ing him up as they sit in that most hon­est city in the nation Chicago.

Let’s for­get for one moment that the Bush wing of the GOP didn’t care for the Rea­gan wing until Until George Bush Sr. became Vice Pres­i­dent and the deals he made as pres­i­dent that led to 8 years of Bill Clin­ton (as well argued by Bryan Pre­ston.) Let’s for­get that Morn­ing Joe had noth­ing but scorn for Pat Toomey right up until he actu­ally won and lets for­get, like all MSNBC shows their favorite Repub­li­cans are always those who bash other repub­li­cans: (Hi Gov Hunts­man how ya doing?) only seem to love repub­li­cans who bash the GOP. Let’s even for­get if the GOP took their advice the house would still be con­trolled by Democ­rats who still wouldn’t have passed a budget.

Let’s instead look at their cri­tique of con­gress being unwill­ing to “com­pro­mise” with democrats.

The first point is of course that these deals invari­ably result in real spend­ing increases but phony “cuts” I’ve been hear­ing about bud­get cuts for 20+ years yet fed­eral spend­ing has gone up every year. For some rea­son this fact doesn’t seem to play with this crowd, but that the minor point.

The 2nd point is the real ques­tion: These GOP can­di­dates who didn’t choose not to give in to the Democ­rats are doing what the vot­ers who elected them want.

These are the vot­ers who stayed home in 2006 when they had enough of GOP spend­ing. These are the vot­ers who stayed home when the “Mav­er­ick Mod­er­ate” John McCain won the nom­i­na­tion, and they are the same vot­ers who made the dif­fer­ence in 2010 for Scott Brown in Jan­u­ary and who drove the big red wave nation­wide on the fed­eral and state level. These are also the vot­ers who elected Scott Walker and who after he refused to com­pro­mise with the Democ­rats in deep blue Wis­con­sin con­vinc­ingly re-​elected him.

Maybe Joe never did his show in his paja­mas, but he also has never done the show from a Major National Tea Party event, if he had back in Sep­tem­ber of 2010 he would have heard this:

Why are you active now?” The answers were more direct, the actions of this con­gress and pres­i­dent, Oba­macare, cap & tax, the bank bill, the bailouts, small busi­ness own­ers in par­tic­u­lar were adamant about what this was doing. They talked of the pain of lay­ing peo­ple off to survive.

Who here trusts the GOP?” Not a sin­gle hand went up, but peo­ple over and over promised me that if the GOP spent like the democ­rats they would be back to throw them out too. No won­der the GOP is scared of the tea party.

These are the votes who suc­cess­fully voted for tea party repub­li­cans in Utah, Indi­ana and else­where. These are the vot­ers who melted Olympia Snowe and have kept the rest of the National GOP hon­est, a GOP they have explic­itly said they do not trust. When he insists the future of the GOP is with him he sound like Basil Faulty, his hotel would be a won­der­ful place if it wasn’t for those fool­ish guests.

Joe Scar­bor­ough argu­ment isn’t with the GOP it’s with the vot­ers who elected them. He advises the GOP in con­gress to ignore these votes. An older hand had other advice:

He would never ask a man to do any­thing against his own inter­ests. “A Congressman’s first duty is to get re-​elected” he would say and he would advice young Con­gress­men: “Always vote your district.”

Robert A. Caro: The Years of Lyn­don John­son The Path to Power 1982 pp 329

That man was Sam Ray­burn, one of the great­est mem­bers of con­gress who ever lived. I like Joe Scar­brough and if he thinks Ray­burn was wrong that’s his priv­i­lege and he’s wel­come to make his case to any per­son who will listen.

As for the mem­bers of con­gress, the choice is theirs, Sam Rayburn’s way or Joe Scar­bor­ough & Co’s way. If they want to take Joe’s advice over Mr. Sam’s well, the more fool them.

Update: Medi­aite trum­pets Scar­bor­ough. Sam Ray­burn not mentioned

I’d have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for those meddling kids

Scooby Doo Where are you (1969-1972)

Right, well I’ll go and have a lie down then. No I won’t; I’ll go and hit some guests.

Basil Faulty  Faulty Towers (1975)

A Congressman’s first duty is to get re-elected

Sam Rayburn

Just 24 hours after MSNBC viewers where shocked to learn that John McCain’s gaffe’s concerning the economy and NOT the selection of Sarah Palin had everything to do with his defeat in 2008 Joe Scarborough and company slipped back into standard MSNBC mode.

Citing Jeb Bush’s remarks he talks about how closed the Republican Party has become, Mike Barnicle brought up the 10-1 ratio business and Joe took a swipe at bloggers and tweeters in the process with the panel all backing him up as they sit in that most honest city in the nation Chicago.

Let’s forget for one moment that the Bush wing of the GOP didn’t care for the Reagan wing until Until George Bush Sr. became Vice President and the deals he made as president that led to 8 years of Bill Clinton (as well argued by Bryan Preston.) Let’s forget that Morning Joe had nothing but scorn for Pat Toomey right up until he actually won and lets forget, like all MSNBC shows their favorite Republicans are always those who bash other republicans: (Hi Gov Huntsman how ya doing?) only seem to love republicans who bash the GOP. Let’s even forget if the GOP took their advice the house would still be controlled by Democrats who still wouldn’t have passed a budget.

Let’s instead look at their critique of congress being unwilling to “compromise” with democrats.

The first point is of course that these deals invariably result in real spending increases but phony “cuts” I’ve been hearing about budget cuts for 20+ years yet federal spending has gone up every year. For some reason this fact doesn’t seem to play with this crowd, but that the minor point.

The 2nd point is the real question: These GOP candidates who didn’t choose not to give in to the Democrats are doing what the voters who elected them want.

These are the voters who stayed home in 2006 when they had enough of GOP spending. These are the voters who stayed home when the “Maverick Moderate” John McCain won the nomination, and they are the same voters who made the difference in 2010 for Scott Brown in January and who drove the big red wave nationwide on the federal and state level. These are also the voters who elected Scott Walker and who after he refused to compromise with the Democrats in deep blue Wisconsin convincingly re-elected him.

Maybe Joe never did his show in his pajamas, but he also has never done the show from a Major National Tea Party event, if he had back in September of 2010 he would have heard this:

“Why are you active now?” The answers were more direct, the actions of this congress and president, Obamacare, cap & tax, the bank bill, the bailouts, small business owners in particular were adamant about what this was doing. They talked of the pain of laying people off to survive.

“Who here trusts the GOP?” Not a single hand went up, but people over and over promised me that if the GOP spent like the democrats they would be back to throw them out too. No wonder the GOP is scared of the tea party.

These are the votes who successfully voted for tea party republicans in Utah, Indiana and elsewhere. These are the voters who melted Olympia Snowe and have kept the rest of the National GOP honest, a GOP they have explicitly said they do not trust. When he insists the future of the GOP is with him he sound like Basil Faulty, his hotel would be a wonderful place if it wasn’t for those foolish guests.

Joe Scarborough argument isn’t with the GOP it’s with the voters who elected them. He advises the GOP in congress to ignore these votes. An older hand had other advice:

He would never ask a man to do anything against his own interests. “A Congressman’s first duty is to get re-elected” he would say and he would advice young Congressmen: “Always vote your district.”

Robert A. Caro:  The Years of Lyndon Johnson The Path to Power 1982 pp 329

That man was Sam Rayburn, one of the greatest members of congress who ever lived.  I like Joe Scarbrough and if he thinks Rayburn was wrong that’s his privilege and he’s welcome to make his case to any person who will listen.

As for the members of congress, the choice is theirs, Sam Rayburn’s way or Joe Scarborough & Co’s way. If they want to take Joe’s advice over Mr. Sam’s well, the more fool them.

Update: Mediaite trumpets Scarborough. Sam Rayburn not mentioned

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