Demoralized as Hell: “I’ve been to the federal penitentiary, and I’m not going back for you” edition

by Datechguy | October 1st, 2012

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Demoralized as Hell: "I've been to the federal penitentiary, and I'm not going back for you" edition

What if they should find a leader? What shall we do then.

Gen­eral Bur­goyne The Devil’s Dis­ci­ple 1959


Ulrich’s dis­cov­ery of guts is cause for orga­ni­za­tion wide concern

Dare­devil Comics Born Again 1986

As we get closer and closer to elec­tion day (or should I say the day when the votes are counted since early vot­ing has started in some states) there has been a small tremor that lately has got­ten less and less press both in Mass­a­chu­setts and nation­wide. That is the effect of cit­i­zen activists tak­ing an inter­est in the vote.

No I’m not talk­ing about the activists that the Demo­c­rat party funds via Gov­ern­ment Largess via Unions etc such as Neigh­bor to Neigh­bor in Worces­ter and ACORN who like the machines of old are tasked with pro­vid­ing the vote totals the left needs by shall we say , all nec­es­sary means. I’m refer­ring to the grass roots tea party folk whose involve­ment in elec­toral pol­i­tics is cause for orga­ni­za­tion wide con­cern for the left.

When the large tea party groups held their ral­lies in Wash­ing­ton, while there was some sur­prise there was very lit­tle worry on the left or the media. After all annu­ally the March For Life protests was (and still is) the largest protest in Wash­ing­ton and the MSM has suc­cess­fully ignored its num­bers to the point where the hun­dreds of thou­sands of peo­ple who par­tic­i­pate might as well be invis­i­ble. The left was sure they could count on the MSM to down­play the num­bers and effect of these crowd.

But some­thing dif­fer­ent hap­pened when the tea party folks made it home. Some­thing the left did not suspect.

Our friends from the left, so used to their own paid pro­test­ers and rent-​a-​mobs, assumed that once there was a pic­ture for the media to see peo­ple would sim­ply fade away until the next media opt.

Then never imag­ined that with­out the pay from a large orga­ni­za­tion that peo­ple might actu­ally get involved.

With Scott Brown’s vic­tor in Jan­u­ary of 2010 came the first actual shock to the left, the idea that there might be some­thing going on here. 10 months later the results of the house elec­tions gave the left another huge shock. 63 seats worth of shock.

In Mass­a­chu­setts the left woke up in time for the elec­tion. The hand that they had kept behind their back because it wasn’t needed was brought out. The left and the union had peo­ple all over the state, mak­ing sure the Bay State remained solidly in the “D” Col­umn.

The left breathed a huge sigh of relief in the state fig­ur­ing this was the high water mark for the right.

Then came the offi­cial loss of an elec­toral seat, then came the retire­ment of Bar­ney Frank,

and then came peo­ple like Bon­nie John­son a tea party activist who started deliv­er­ing some star­tling news con­cern­ing the law in Mass­a­chu­setts:

Every Jan­u­ary Mass­a­chu­setts Cities and town send out a city/​town cen­sus to every res­i­dence. It lists the reg­is­tered vot­ers in the dwelling and how they are reg­is­tered. I’ve filled it out every year with­out a thought, not notic­ing the warn­ings on the form if it is not done.

I had filled out the form for years not think­ing a word about not real­iz­ing its significance

If the form is not returned the peo­ple on them are marked as an “inac­tive” voter. By law an “inac­tive” voter who attempts to vote must fill out and sign a form and pro­vide proof of both res­i­dence and iden­tity to be able to vote.

The law had been on the books for a long time but when you never have con­tested elec­tions nobody really cared about it, she vis­ited tea party groups in the states and deliv­ered the mes­sage:

The prob­lem seems to be a lot of peo­ple are not aware of the law, and if you want it enforced you need peo­ple at the polls vol­un­teer­ing and work­ing to ensure it IS enforced.

The results have been train­ing ses­sion that taught peo­ple what the rules were and how to be sure they were enforced while poll watch­ing, at the time I asked Bon­nie John­son how this works:

DaT­e­chGuy: Now how would the poll worker know that it’s an inac­tive voter is there like an “I” next to it someplace?”

Bon­nie John­son: There’ a lower case “i” next to their name.

DTG: Now is the poll worker required to demand this or does an observer have to bring this up from your experience?

BJ: The Poll worker should demand this.

DTG: So if the poll worker doesn’t demand it, if you are an observer you can say “This per­son was inac­tive, you are required to do this.”

BJ: Cor­rect.

DTG: And this is by state law?

BJ: Absolutely.

But nobody had been enforc­ing the law, why bother? the elec­tions in Mass­a­chu­setts were as con­tested as elec­tions in Iraq dur­ing the Sad­dam era, but now you have peo­ple being forced to enforce the law with the fol­low­ing result

BJ: In Worces­ter 99,000 vot­ers 46% of them became inac­tive when they did this.

Remem­ber Worces­ter is the 2nd biggest city in New Eng­land Behind Boston and Scott Brown lost the city by just under 2000 votes out of 38,282 cast. The num­ber of now inac­tive votes exceeds the total num­ber of votes cast in the 2010 spe­cial elec­tion. In Boston Scott Brown lost the city by 38 points. Just under 60,000 votes. Imag­ine if you are a demo­c­rat poll and a well funded Scott Brown cam­paign has poll watch­ers in every precinct who KNOW THE RULES.

What might hap­pen, stuff like this per­haps?

Fast for­ward to this year’s state pri­mary elec­tion, held on Sep­tem­ber 6, 2012. Coun­ter­charges, of voter fraud and “voter sup­pres­sion,” were levied by and against Worces­ter Tea Party observers on that day. Worces­ter Tea Party mem­bers say that they observed peo­ple being escorted into the polling precincts, again by Neigh­bor to Neigh­bor wear­ing their pur­ple shirts. In addi­tion, alle­ga­tions of vot­ers show­ing res­i­dent alien – green cards – as iden­ti­fi­ca­tion were wit­nessed. The observers tried to doc­u­ment this and were thrown out of the polling loca­tion, they would say ille­gally, for doing so.

City offi­cials, led by Coun­cilor Saral Rivera, stormed into the vot­ing precinct to allege voter intim­i­da­tion by the neu­tral observers, to the Demo­c­ra­tic pri­mary. Numer­ous hear­ings have been held by both the City Coun­cil and the Elec­tion Com­mis­sion to deter­mine what hap­pened on that day. As the New York based news­pa­per up the street’s edi­to­r­ial board has said no cred­i­ble evi­dence has been pre­sented show­ing voter intim­i­da­tion. So far lit­tle evi­dence has been found that the Elec­tion Com­mis­sion has refused to call for a for­mal investigation.

And when the author of this piece Rob Eno of Red Mass Group tweeted out things like this

And you saw angry tweets like this one from SEIU peo­ple in reply:

oh Harass­ing it it? Well if those tea party folks were harass­ing peo­ple instead of mak­ing sure the law is obeyed I’m sure the Worces­ter Elec­tion com­mis­sion dom­i­nated by democ­rats would demand an inves­ti­ga­tion to make sure vot­ers aren’t being intim­i­dated.…

The Elec­tion Com­mis­sion is hold­ing off, at least for the time being, on call­ing for a for­mal inves­ti­ga­tion into alle­ga­tions that some observers vio­lated the rights of vot­ers dur­ing the Sept. 6 state primary.

But…but the harass­ment, the intim­i­da­tion of minor­ity vot­ers, surely the peo­ple vic­tim­ized by these scur­rilous actions com­plained. Surely groups like Neigh­bor to Neigh­bor being com­mu­nity orga­niz­ers devoted to pro­tect­ing the rights of vot­ers have sub­mit­ted this infor­ma­tion to the city or the state…

it was pointed out that no for­mal writ­ten com­plaints or affi­davits have been filed by any poll war­dens or aggrieved par­ties with either the Elec­tion Com­mis­sion or the sec­re­tary of state’s office.

..or not.

No com­plaints, no affi­davits no sworn state­ments? If this is true the ques­tion is WHY?

I sus­pect the answer is closely related to a ques­tion I asked a few weeks ago con­cern­ing the left’s com­plaints over voter ID laws in Penn­syl­va­nia:

Why should pro­duc­ing an ID change the result of any election?

Why should the use of an item needed at any bank, to cash any pay­check or gov­ern­ment check, to use a credit card, an item you are asked to pro­duce at a hos­pi­tal, at a super­mar­ket or even to buy booze cause the results of an elec­tion to change? Do Democ­rats need these ID less that republicans?

The answer is sim­ple. There are no affi­davits because those would be dec­la­ra­tions made under oath that would have to be defended in open court. Just like show­ing an ID or fill­ing out an affi­davit for a pro­vi­sional bal­lot would be a dec­la­ra­tion under oath that a voter is who they say they are and live where they say they live.

In a fed­eral elec­tion that’s a fed­eral offense.

In 1941 Lyn­don John­son ran in a spe­cial elec­tion for the US Sen­ate, his pri­mary oppo­nent was the sit­ting Gov­er­nor Pappy O’Daniel. John­son cam­paigned hard (nobody worked harder at cam­paign­ing than Lyn­don John­son) and was not shy about steal­ing or buy­ing votes either, but John­son make the fatal mis­take allow­ing some of his “owned” precincts report early giv­ing O’Daniel the abil­ity to know how many votes he needed to steal/​buy/​fix to win this election.

Robert Caro in his first vol­ume on Lyn­don John­son “The Path to Power” told of Johnson’s reac­tion on page 739:

Johnson’s reac­tion was to try to steal it back. Tele­phon­ing George Paar, he asked the Duke of Duval to give him more votes. But Parr Refused; he later told friends he replied “Lyn­don, I’ve been to the fed­eral pen­i­ten­tiary, and I’m not going back for you.”

The left can blus­ter, they can scream and they can cry, but as long as there are tea party peo­ple watch­ing, as long as the activists are ready and edu­cated on the law, as long as cam­paigns like Scott Brown has the money to make sure that any per­son try­ing to cast an ille­gal bal­lot. (or should be call them undoc­u­mented bal­lots) will be chal­lenged and sub­ject to the full penalty of the law then those who have been unchal­lenged for years will think long and hard before they take that risk.

THAT is why the left is fight­ing so hard, THAT is why there is worry, that is why we are reduced to polls like Sunday’s Colum­bus Dis­patch sug­gest­ing some­how Mitt Rom­ney with 90% of the GOP vote and with 40.8 of the inde­pen­dent votes vs 41.7 to Obama is some­how down by 9.

And it’s also why they are not cov­er­ing what the Tea Party is doing as Glenn Rey­onlds reports:

the main­stream press isn’t very inter­ested in cov­er­ing this kind of thing any­way. Sto­ries about Obama grass­roots orga­niz­ers in 2008 were fine. Sto­ries about the Tea Party orga­niz­ing this time around would con­flict with the pre­ferred (if some­what con­tra­dic­tory) nar­ra­tives that the Tea Party is (1) just a bunch of billionaire-​funded astro­turf; and (2) a pre­serve of racist “bit­ter clingers” who are too busy dig­ging for Obama birth cer­tifi­cates to engage in hard polit­i­cal work.

Either way, these kinds of ini­tia­tives will make a dif­fer­ence. The ques­tion, again, is whether they’ll make enough of a difference.

That is the big fear, what do you do if there is a pool of activists not con­trolled by a major party, a group that you can’t office polit­i­cal good­ies to in the hope they will sim­ply go away?

You can’t do a damn thing about them, you can holy hope to out­work them with your paid guys.

That’s why I’m still very con­fi­dent in say­ing this:

“Ride right through them, they’re demor­al­ized as hell”!

And if you think they are demor­al­ized now, wait till AFTER this election.

Update: Oh BTW here is a bit of news that you might not have heard:

A Com­mon­wealth Court judge said Thurs­day that he was con­sid­er­ing allow­ing most of the state’s con­tro­ver­sial voter iden­ti­fi­ca­tion law to remain intact for the Novem­ber elec­tion and was con­tem­plat­ing only a very nar­row injunction.

Judge Robert E. Simp­son Jr. said at the end of the sec­ond and last day of a hear­ing on whether to halt voter ID require­ments for the Nov. 6 elec­tion that he was con­sid­er­ing an injunc­tion that would tar­get the por­tion of the law that deals with pro­vi­sional ballots.

You can tell what the folks at Philly​.com think of it by the title in the link…

arti​cles​.philly​.com/2012 – 09-​29/​news/​34149464_​1_​voter-​id-​law-​id-​on-​election-​day–dis­en­fran­chise

Yup I trust these guys for clean unfil­tered news.

What if they should find a leader? What shall we do then.

General Burgoyne The Devil’s Disciple 1959


Ulrich’s discovery of guts is cause for organization wide concern

Daredevil Comics Born Again 1986

As we get closer and closer to election day (or should I say the day when the votes are counted since early voting has started in some states) there has been a small tremor that lately has gotten less and less press both in Massachusetts and nationwide. That is the effect of citizen activists taking an interest in the vote.

No I’m not talking about the activists that the Democrat party funds via Government Largess via Unions etc such as Neighbor to Neighbor in Worcester and ACORN who like the machines of old are tasked with providing the vote totals the left needs by shall we say , all necessary means. I’m referring to the grass roots tea party folk whose involvement in electoral politics is cause for organization wide concern for the left.

When the large tea party groups held their rallies in Washington, while there was some surprise there was very little worry on the left or the media. After all annually the March For Life protests was (and still is) the largest protest in Washington and the MSM has successfully ignored its numbers to the point where the hundreds of thousands of people who participate might as well be invisible. The left was sure they could count on the MSM to downplay the numbers and effect of these crowd.

But something different happened when the tea party folks made it home. Something the left did not suspect.

Our friends from the left, so used to their own paid protesters and rent-a-mobs, assumed that once there was a picture for the media to see people would simply fade away until the next media opt.

Then never imagined that without the pay from a large organization that people might actually get involved.

With Scott Brown’s victor in January of 2010 came the first actual shock to the left, the idea that there might be something going on here. 10 months later the results of the house elections gave the left another huge shock. 63 seats worth of shock.

In Massachusetts the left woke up in time for the election. The hand that they had kept behind their back because it wasn’t needed was brought out. The left and the union had people all over the state, making sure the Bay State remained solidly in the “D” Column.

The left breathed a huge sigh of relief in the state figuring this was the high water mark for the right.

Then came the official loss of an electoral seat, then came the retirement of Barney Frank,

and then came people like Bonnie Johnson a tea party activist who started delivering some startling news concerning the law in Massachusetts:

Every January Massachusetts Cities and town send out a city/town census to every residence. It lists the registered voters in the dwelling and how they are registered. I’ve filled it out every year without a thought, not noticing the warnings on the form if it is not done.

I had filled out the form for years not thinking a word about not realizing its significance

If the form is not returned the people on them are marked as an “inactive” voter. By law an “inactive” voter who attempts to vote must fill out and sign a form and provide proof of both residence and identity to be able to vote.

The law had been on the books for a long time but when you never have contested elections nobody really cared about it, she visited tea party groups in the states and delivered the message:

The problem seems to be a lot of people are not aware of the law, and if you want it enforced you need people at the polls volunteering and working to ensure it IS enforced.

The results have been training session that taught people what the rules were and how to be sure they were enforced while poll watching, at the time I asked Bonnie Johnson how this works:

DaTechGuy: Now how would the poll worker know that it’s an inactive voter is there like an “I” next to it someplace?”

Bonnie Johnson: There’ a lower case “i” next to their name.

DTG: Now is the poll worker required to demand this or does an observer have to bring this up from your experience?

BJ: The Poll worker should demand this.

DTG: So if the poll worker doesn’t demand it, if you are an observer you can say “This person was inactive, you are required to do this.”

BJ: Correct.

DTG: And this is by state law?

BJ: Absolutely.

But nobody had been enforcing the law, why bother? the elections in Massachusetts were as contested as elections in Iraq during the Saddam era, but now you have people being forced to enforce the law with the following result

BJ: In Worcester 99,000 voters 46% of them became inactive when they did this.

Remember Worcester is the 2nd biggest city in New England Behind Boston and Scott Brown lost the city by just under 2000 votes out of 38,282 cast. The number of now inactive votes exceeds the total number of votes cast in the 2010 special election. In Boston Scott Brown lost the city by 38 points. Just under 60,000 votes. Imagine if you are a democrat poll and a well funded Scott Brown campaign has poll watchers in every precinct who KNOW THE RULES.

What might happen, stuff like this perhaps?

Fast forward to this year’s state primary election, held on September 6, 2012. Countercharges, of voter fraud and “voter suppression,” were levied by and against Worcester Tea Party observers on that day. Worcester Tea Party members say that they observed people being escorted into the polling precincts, again by Neighbor to Neighbor wearing their purple shirts. In addition, allegations of voters showing resident alien – green cards – as identification were witnessed. The observers tried to document this and were thrown out of the polling location, they would say illegally, for doing so.

City officials, led by Councilor Saral Rivera, stormed into the voting precinct to allege voter intimidation by the neutral observers, to the Democratic primary. Numerous hearings have been held by both the City Council and the Election Commission to determine what happened on that day. As the New York based newspaper up the street’s editorial board has said no credible evidence has been presented showing voter intimidation. So far little evidence has been found that the Election Commission has refused to call for a formal investigation.

And when the author of this piece Rob Eno of Red Mass Group tweeted out things like this

And you saw angry tweets like this one from SEIU people in reply:

oh Harassing it it? Well if those tea party folks were harassing people instead of making sure the law is obeyed I’m sure the Worcester Election commission dominated by democrats would demand an investigation to make sure voters aren’t being intimidated….

The Election Commission is holding off, at least for the time being, on calling for a formal investigation into allegations that some observers violated the rights of voters during the Sept. 6 state primary.

But…but the harassment, the intimidation of minority voters, surely the people victimized by these scurrilous actions complained. Surely groups like Neighbor to Neighbor being community organizers devoted to protecting the rights of voters have submitted this information to the city or the state…

it was pointed out that no formal written complaints or affidavits have been filed by any poll wardens or aggrieved parties with either the Election Commission or the secretary of state’s office.

..or not.

No complaints, no affidavits no sworn statements? If this is true the question is WHY?

I suspect the answer is closely related to a question I asked a few weeks ago concerning the left’s complaints over voter ID laws in Pennsylvania:

Why should producing an ID change the result of any election?

Why should the use of an item needed at any bank, to cash any paycheck or government check, to use a credit card, an item you are asked to produce at a hospital, at a supermarket or even to buy booze cause the results of an election to change? Do Democrats need these ID less that republicans?

The answer is simple. There are no affidavits because those would be declarations made under oath that would have to be defended in open court. Just like showing an ID or filling out an affidavit for a provisional ballot would be a declaration under oath that a voter is who they say they are and live where they say they live.

In a federal election that’s a federal offense.

In 1941 Lyndon Johnson ran in a special election for the US Senate, his primary opponent was the sitting Governor Pappy O’Daniel. Johnson campaigned hard (nobody worked harder at campaigning than Lyndon Johnson) and was not shy about stealing or buying votes either, but Johnson make the fatal mistake allowing some of his “owned” precincts report early giving O’Daniel the ability to know how many votes he needed to steal/buy/fix to win this election.

Robert Caro in his first volume on Lyndon Johnson “The Path to Power” told of Johnson’s reaction on page 739:

Johnson’s reaction was to try to steal it back. Telephoning George Paar, he asked the Duke of Duval to give him more votes. But Parr Refused; he later told friends he replied “Lyndon, I’ve been to the federal penitentiary, and I’m not going back for you.”

The left can bluster, they can scream and they can cry, but as long as there are tea party people watching, as long as the activists are ready and educated on the law, as long as campaigns like Scott Brown has the money to make sure that any person trying to cast an illegal ballot. (or should be call them undocumented ballots) will be challenged and subject to the full penalty of the law then those who have been unchallenged for years will think long and hard before they take that risk.

THAT is why the left is fighting so hard, THAT is why there is worry, that is why we are reduced to polls like Sunday’s Columbus Dispatch suggesting somehow Mitt Romney with 90% of the GOP vote and with 40.8 of the independent votes vs 41.7 to Obama is somehow down by 9.

And it’s also why they are not covering what the Tea Party is doing as Glenn Reyonlds reports:

the mainstream press isn’t very interested in covering this kind of thing anyway. Stories about Obama grassroots organizers in 2008 were fine. Stories about the Tea Party organizing this time around would conflict with the preferred (if somewhat contradictory) narratives that the Tea Party is (1) just a bunch of billionaire-funded astroturf; and (2) a preserve of racist “bitter clingers” who are too busy digging for Obama birth certificates to engage in hard political work.

Either way, these kinds of initiatives will make a difference. The question, again, is whether they’ll make enough of a difference.

That is the big fear, what do you do if there is a pool of activists not controlled by a major party, a group that you can’t office political goodies to in the hope they will simply go away?

You can’t do a damn thing about them, you can holy hope to outwork them with your paid guys.

That’s why I’m still very confident in saying this:

“Ride right through them, they’re demoralized as hell”!

And if you think they are demoralized now, wait till AFTER this election.

Update: Oh BTW here is a bit of news that you might not have heard:

A Commonwealth Court judge said Thursday that he was considering allowing most of the state’s controversial voter identification law to remain intact for the November election and was contemplating only a very narrow injunction.

Judge Robert E. Simpson Jr. said at the end of the second and last day of a hearing on whether to halt voter ID requirements for the Nov. 6 election that he was considering an injunction that would target the portion of the law that deals with provisional ballots.

You can tell what the folks at Philly.com think of it by the title in the link…

articles.philly.com/2012-09-29/news/34149464_1_voter-id-law-id-on-election-day-disenfranchise

Yup I trust these guys for clean unfiltered news.

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