The Conservative 3rd Party brought to you by…John Boehner?

by Datechguy | December 3rd, 2012

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The Conservative 3rd Party brought to you by...John Boehner?

Pop Fisher: My gut tells me this, and Red agrees. We feel Hobbs can fill your posi­tion very neatly. We’ll give you one more chance to shape up. Oth­er­wise, it’s the bench.

The Nat­ural 1984

The Bat­man: Ladies, gen­tle­men, you’ve eaten well. You’ve eaten Gotham’s wealth. Its spirit. But your feast is nearly over. From this moment on, none of you are safe.

Bat­man 405 (1987) …on TV as Bat­man Year One (2011)

Fri­day I talked about the GOP as Drew Bled­soe, not bad get­ting the team to the play­offs but not real­iz­ing that there is a plethora of peo­ple on the bench just wait­ing to take the field. while the GOP takes their IQ test con­cern­ing the  Happy Prospect ter­ri­ble threat of Sequestration

A few weeks ago Mike Rogers of Gran­ite Grok said this:

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the con­ser­v­a­tive party, like NY state), is NOW, after a his­toric elec­tion that demon­strated the inept­ness of the “Wiz­ards of Smart”.

If the GOP fails this test and con­tin­ues to fall for this non­sense, I sug­gest con­ser­v­a­tives state by state fol­low the New York Model and cre­ate the “Con­ser­v­a­tive Party” to com­pete with the GOP.

Addi­tion­ally I think we con­ser­v­a­tives should make this threat pub­licly and directly because the impact of this threat is con­sid­er­able and directed right at the peo­ple it needs to be put to the most.

Con­sider, one of the pres­sures being put on Tea-​Party con­ser­v­a­tives is the threat of an even worse deal as the Speaker goes to democ­rats for the votes needed to pass his bill. He would need to bring about 30 mem­bers of the GOP with him to get to 218 and obvi­ously they would be from “safe seats”.

But what if those seats weren’t safe any­more? What if there was a con­ser­v­a­tive party run­ning can­di­dates in those estab­lish­ment GOP dis­tricts that are con­sid­ered safe GOP? Sud­denly those seat are in play and our demo­c­rat friends would jump in with both feet. In fact I sus­pect Soros money would pour in to build up such a con­ser­v­a­tive party in order to divide the GOP.

Now I’m sure there are those say­ing: “But DaT­e­chGuy, you’d be giv­ing the elec­tion to the democ­rats”, con­sider these two points, one from Mike Rogers:

If we suc­cess­fully set up a con­ser­v­a­tive party, and win some seats, we can choose to align with Repub­li­cans or even endorse their can­di­date as a tac­ti­cal mat­ter on a vote by vote basis.

The vast major­ity of the time the NY Con­ser­v­a­tive Party endorses the GOP can­di­date, but when we have a Dede Scoz­zafava we can say: NO!

And this one that’s new from me: Let’s say the GOP cau­cus says NO WAY! and Speaker John Boehner passes this with 30 – 50 GOP and 190 Dems (in real­ity any­thing resem­bling cuts won’t get all the dems). We chal­lenge these GOP mem­bers in deep red dis­tricts and the democ­rats take the house in 2014, two pos­i­tive things happen.

1. Every mem­ber of the GOP dis­cov­ers none of them are safe with­out us.

2. The Democ­rats get con­trol in the last two years of the pres­i­dency of Barack Obama mean­ing that going into 2016 they get full blame for all that will come. If Oba­macare passed in 2011 rather than 2009 Mitt Rom­ney is pres­i­dent today with large majori­ties in both houses.

Those two years in the wilder­ness will have a pay­off of real con­ser­v­a­tives for years to come, a sit­u­a­tion our chil­dren and grand­chil­dren will thank us for.

I’d like to remind the GOP of one thing, I was a con­ser­v­a­tive Demo­c­rat and left the Demo­c­rat party when it didn’t rep­re­sent my val­ues any­more. I joined the Repub­li­can party because I decided it was time to pub­licly be the side I was on. If the GOP doesn’t rep­re­sent my val­ues or is embar­rassed by me, if they don’t want to admit needed the con­ser­v­a­tives except on elec­tion day and on fundrais­ing days then that’s fine, I can take hint and I sus­pect a lot of the grass root con­ser­v­a­tives and tea party mem­bers can too.

Do we stay or do we go? John Boehner and the GOP, it’s all up to you.

Pop Fisher: My gut tells me this, and Red agrees. We feel Hobbs can fill your position very neatly. We’ll give you one more chance to shape up. Otherwise, it’s the bench.

The Natural 1984

The Batman: Ladies, gentlemen, you’ve eaten well. You’ve eaten Gotham’s wealth. Its spirit. But your feast is nearly over. From this moment on, none of you are safe.

Batman 405 (1987) …on TV as Batman Year One (2011)

Friday I talked about the GOP as Drew Bledsoe, not bad getting the team to the playoffs but not realizing that there is a plethora of people on the bench just waiting to take the field. while the GOP takes their IQ test concerning the  Happy Prospect terrible threat of Sequestration

A few weeks ago Mike Rogers of Granite Grok said this:

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the conservative party, like NY state), is NOW, after a historic election that demonstrated the ineptness of the “Wizards of Smart”.

If the GOP fails this test and continues to fall for this nonsense, I suggest conservatives state by state follow the New York Model and create the “Conservative Party” to compete with the GOP.

Additionally I think we conservatives should make this threat publicly and directly because the impact of this threat is considerable and directed right at the people it needs to be put to the most.

Consider, one of the pressures being put on Tea-Party conservatives is the threat of an even worse deal as the Speaker goes to democrats for the votes needed to pass his bill. He would need to bring about 30 members of the GOP with him to get to 218 and obviously they would be from “safe seats”.

But what if those seats weren’t safe anymore? What if there was a conservative party running candidates in those establishment GOP districts that are considered safe GOP? Suddenly those seat are in play and our democrat friends would jump in with both feet. In fact I suspect Soros money would pour in to build up such a conservative party in order to divide the GOP.

Now I’m sure there are those saying: “But DaTechGuy, you’d be giving the election to the democrats”, consider these two points, one from Mike Rogers:

If we successfully set up a conservative party, and win some seats, we can choose to align with Republicans or even endorse their candidate as a tactical matter on a vote by vote basis.

The vast majority of the time the NY Conservative Party endorses the GOP candidate, but when we have a Dede Scozzafava we can say: NO!

And this one that’s new from me: Let’s say the GOP caucus says NO WAY! and Speaker John Boehner passes this with 30-50 GOP and 190 Dems (in reality anything resembling cuts won’t get all the dems). We challenge these GOP members in deep red districts and the democrats take the house in 2014, two positive things happen.

1. Every member of the GOP discovers none of them are safe without us.

2. The Democrats get control in the last two years of the presidency of Barack Obama meaning that going into 2016 they get full blame for all that will come.  If Obamacare passed in 2011 rather than 2009 Mitt Romney is president today with large majorities in both houses.

Those two years in the wilderness will have a payoff of real conservatives for years to come, a situation our children and grandchildren will thank us for.

I’d like to remind the GOP of one thing, I was a conservative Democrat and left the Democrat party when it didn’t represent my values anymore. I joined the Republican party because I decided it was time to publicly be the side I was on. If the GOP doesn’t represent my values or is embarrassed by me, if they don’t want to admit needed the conservatives except on election day and on fundraising days then that’s fine, I can take hint and I suspect a lot of the grass root conservatives and tea party members can too.

Do we stay or do we go? John Boehner and the GOP, it’s all up to you.

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