The House Cliff Vote: A preview of coming attractions

by Datechguy | January 2nd, 2013

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The House Cliff Vote: A preview of coming attractions

Back when I thought Rom­ney was going to win I wrote this about one of my fears if he did in fact win:

The thing I fear the most about Mitt is that he will form a team with Estab­lish­ment GOP and lib­er­als in the House. The Estab­lish­ment gets it’s spend­ing, lib­er­als get a piece of the action and Rom­ney is hailed as “Bipartisan”.

Look­ing at the final fis­cal cliff vote in the House where pas­sage was secured by an over­whelm­ing num­ber of democ­rats team­ing up with estab­lish­ment repub­li­cans to get the 257 votes the Bill ended up with.

Dems split 172 – 16, Repub­li­cans split 85 – 151. Boehner didn’t come close to sat­is­fy­ing the “major­ity of the major­ity” rule, which leaves him on thin ice for Thursday’s Speaker vote. At least he didn’t hide, though: He voted yes tonight, as did Paul Ryan, much to Team Rubio’s delight. Mean­while, the rest of the lead­er­ship team — i.e. Eric Can­tor and Kevin McCarthy — voted no, although Can­tor waited until the bill had 218 votes to reg­is­ter his mean­ing­less disapproval.

With that heaven sent 41 – 1 ratio of tax increases to spend­ing cuts no won­der over 90% of democ­rats would go for it, but I“m slightly dis­ap­pointed that they man­aged almost 40 per­cent of the GOP going along.

I expect a lot more of the same, estab­lish­ment GOP mem­bers mak­ing deals and the speak­ing mar­gin­al­iz­ing his own party for the next two years. I go back to what Mike Rogers said after elec­tion day:

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the con­ser­v­a­tive party, like NY state), is NOW, after a his­toric elec­tion that demon­strated the inept­ness of the “Wiz­ards of Smart”…

,If we suc­cess­fully set up a con­ser­v­a­tive party, and win some seats, we can choose to align with Repub­li­cans or even endorse their can­di­date as a tac­ti­cal mat­ter on a vote by vote basis.

What say you?

I say any­one who is even think­ing about giv­ing to the NRCC after this fiasco needs to if not turn them down flat, last least hold off till the debt ceil­ing busi­ness comes up, “bet­ter than noth­ing” argu­ment not withstanding.

In fact I’d put them on notice, if we see a repeat of this in March then that dough will go to sup­port either pri­mary oppo­nents for GOP house mem­bers or a new con­ser­v­a­tive party that can choose to stand with the GOP or no.

If we con­tinue to let our­selves be played we deserve all we get.

Update.
Start­ing the year with a deficit myself, still $370 in the hole. If you’re look­ing to invest in con­ser­vatism this deba­cle proves I’ve got to be a bet­ter invest­ment than these house guys




Update: Stacy McCain has the best line:

Just don’t say they were “spend­ing like drunken sailors.” At least sailors spend their own money.

Update 2:

Via Insty, Conn Car­roll asks the ques­tion:

Remem­ber, Obama’s first offer was for a $1.6 tril­lion tax hike and an infi­nite debt limit hike. Boehner coun­tered with $800 bil­lion. The final deal was for only $600 billion.

How is that not a “win” for Republicans?

Easy, let me quote a cer­tain Ex-​Leper:

All right cut the hag­gling, say you open at once shekel I start at 2000 we end up about 1800

Brion in the end gives as the Ex-​Leper puts it: “Half a dinari for me bloody life story?” when he had noth­ing com­ing. Obama won as soon as Boehner coun­tered with the tax hike that became bipartisan.

Even worse The “Bush Tax Cuts” are gone replaced by the “Obama Tax Cuts” that actu­ally raise taxes, yet the media will be call­ing them tax cuts for­ever while giv­ing Democ­rats credit.

Fools.

Here is the whole Brian bit

Update 2: Bob Krumm gets it.

Update 3:
Joe Weisen­thal gets it

Thanks to last night’s Fis­cal Cliff deal, we an now put to bed the term “The Bush Tax Cuts.”

As of now, they’re the Obama Tax Cuts.

Told ya.

Back when I thought Romney was going to win I wrote this about one of my fears if he did in fact win:

The thing I fear the most about Mitt is that he will form a team with Establishment GOP and liberals in the House. The Establishment gets it’s spending, liberals get a piece of the action and Romney is hailed as “Bipartisan”.

Looking at the final fiscal cliff vote in the House where passage was secured by an overwhelming number of democrats teaming up with establishment republicans to get the 257 votes the Bill ended up with.

Dems split 172-16, Republicans split 85-151. Boehner didn’t come close to satisfying the “majority of the majority” rule, which leaves him on thin ice for Thursday’s Speaker vote. At least he didn’t hide, though: He voted yes tonight, as did Paul Ryan, much to Team Rubio’s delight. Meanwhile, the rest of the leadership team — i.e. Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy — voted no, although Cantor waited until the bill had 218 votes to register his meaningless disapproval.

With that heaven sent 41-1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts no wonder over 90% of democrats would go for it, but I”m slightly disappointed that they managed almost 40 percent of the GOP going along.

I expect a lot more of the same, establishment GOP members making deals and the speaking marginalizing his own party for the next two years. I go back to what Mike Rogers said after election day:

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the conservative party, like NY state), is NOW, after a historic election that demonstrated the ineptness of the “Wizards of Smart”…

,,,If we successfully set up a conservative party, and win some seats, we can choose to align with Republicans or even endorse their candidate as a tactical matter on a vote by vote basis.

What say you?

I say anyone who is even thinking about giving to the NRCC after this fiasco needs to if not turn them down flat, last least hold off till the debt ceiling business comes up, “better than nothing” argument not withstanding.

In fact I’d put them on notice, if we see a repeat of this in March then that dough will go to support either primary opponents for GOP house members or a new conservative party that can choose to stand with the GOP or no.

If we continue to let ourselves be played we deserve all we get.

Update.
Starting the year with a deficit myself, still $370 in the hole. If you’re looking to invest in conservatism this debacle proves I’ve got to be a better investment than these house guys




Update: Stacy McCain has the best line:

Just don’t say they were “spending like drunken sailors.” At least sailors spend their own money.

Update 2:

Via Insty, Conn Carroll asks the question:

Remember, Obama’s first offer was for a $1.6 trillion tax hike and an infinite debt limit hike. Boehner countered with $800 billion. The final deal was for only $600 billion.

How is that not a “win” for Republicans?

Easy, let me quote a certain Ex-Leper:

All right cut the haggling, say you open at once shekel I start at 2000 we end up about 1800

Brion in the end gives as the Ex-Leper puts it: “Half a dinari for me bloody life story?” when he had nothing coming. Obama won as soon as Boehner countered with the tax hike that became bipartisan.

Even worse The “Bush Tax Cuts” are gone replaced by the “Obama Tax Cuts” that actually raise taxes, yet the media will be calling them tax cuts forever while giving Democrats credit.

Fools.

Here is the whole Brian bit

Update 2: Bob Krumm gets it.

Update 3:
Joe Weisenthal gets it

Thanks to last night’s Fiscal Cliff deal, we an now put to bed the term “The Bush Tax Cuts.”

As of now, they’re the Obama Tax Cuts.

Told ya.

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