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by Datechguy | January 8th, 2013

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The 11th Doc­tor: Oh and delete your inter­net history

Doc­tor Who The Eleventh Hour 2008

Yes­ter­day when I woke up I found that once again the meme of “Zilla the non-​existent” had spread again.

As I have met Zilla in per­son, vis­ited her in the Hos­pi­tal and inter­viewed her the meme was quickly proven wrong.

To his credit, on see­ing this evi­dence the per­son in ques­tion apol­o­gized and deleted tweets to that effect as his honor demanded but the entire topic raises an inter­est­ing point con­cern­ing the net.

Every­one makes mis­takes and although search engines make the inter­net smaller it is impos­si­ble for one to see every­thing on it.

It is also true that even if you have cor­rected a mis­take your old posts might bite you back. Here is an example.

Pat Adkins has a blog I check occa­sion­ally called The Think­ing Americanist

He’s right on some things (guns) wrong on oth­ers Right to Work and he dis­likes my clos­est friend on the net, but on occa­sion shows real promise (trust not in princes…great post that).

Well he had a few things to say about my friend Zilla last year(all empha­sis mine)

In July:

….and yes, you are fak­ing your ill­ness, a well-​known and well respected pro­fes­sional blog­ger, who gets PAID to do write and blog told me so.

And Sep­tem­ber

The only thing I said about Zilla, was that I heard, from a good friend of mine; who is a Con­ser­v­a­tive, who gets paid rather well to blog; that Zilla was fak­ing her ill­ness. I know noth­ing about, nor have I ever said any­thing about her hus­band. If some­one is say­ing any­thing about her hus­band, it is not me at all. Fur­ther­more, I have never said any­thing about Zilla tak­ing a trip any­where either. If my friend was wrong and he could have very well been mis­in­formed, so be it. But I sim­ply told what I heard from what, I believe was a very good source.

Con­sid­er­ing Pat’s source was not only a friend but a “paid jour­nal­ist” one can cer­tainly see why he would believe it, after all I have sev­eral sources of my own that if they told me some­thing I would believe it at once.

How­ever after inter­view in the Hos­pi­tal with Zilla went up and he was made aware of it Pat did the right thing in style with a post I will repro­duce here in full.

A while back I wrote some stuff about a Blog­ger, that I had heard some stuff about.

Well, based upon what I have seen Here and Here, I pub­licly retract what I wrote about “Zilla, of the Resis­tance

Now that I have actu­ally seen the video. I am con­vinced. To my defense, I just repeated what I was told.

Well, some­one was full of crap and I now, and rightly so, feel like the world’s great­est asshole. :(

If I had the extra hun­dred bucks; I would pop it in her tip jar and in Dan’s ; but I do not have it, so I can’t. But those who read this blog can.

Pub­lic retrac­tion, pub­lic apol­ogy mea culpa and tip jar request for Zilla. One can cer­tainly not fault Pat’s efforts he went above and beyond a sim­ple cor­rec­tion in a very hon­or­able way. He also proved him­self a loyal friend as he didn’t burn his pal who burned him.

He did how­ever, make a basic mis­take that I didn’t notice until today and I’ll wager he hasn’t noticed it either: He for­got to update the pre­vi­ous posts link­ing to the cor­rec­tion post.

Now per­haps he fig­ured reg­u­lar read­ers who saw the old posts he linked to would nat­u­rally see the new. he might have counted on the track­backs from the cor­rec­tion post to show up in com­ments or he might have been busy call­ing his friend for giv­ing him bad info mak­ing him look bad.

The prob­lem becomes if another blog­ger saw the old post and quoted and linked to them, those other blogs now become the pri­mary source for other peo­ple and search engines who see the old mis­take uncor­rected and take it from there.

The point being I sus­pect this kind of thing hap­pens all the time, it’s the nature of the inter­net and the blo­gos­phere, there is not much a per­son can do about it, whether it is a bad post or a porn video shot years before, it’s almost impos­si­ble to per­ma­nently cor­rect the record on the net, bad info is going to get out there and it is impos­si­ble to com­pletely purge it.

So take that as a les­son the next time you pre­pare to upload a photo, repeat some gos­sip or say some­thing that might embar­rass you or some­one else on the net. Take care and be aware.

Because no mat­ter what the Doc­tor says you sim­ply can’t delete your inter­net history.

The 11th Doctor:   Oh and delete your internet history

Doctor Who The Eleventh Hour 2008

Yesterday when I woke up I found that once again the meme of “Zilla the non-existent” had spread again.

As I have met Zilla in person, visited her in the Hospital and interviewed her the meme was quickly proven wrong.

To his credit, on seeing this evidence the person in question apologized and deleted tweets to that effect as his honor demanded but the entire topic raises an interesting point concerning the net.

Everyone makes mistakes and although search engines make the internet smaller it is impossible for one to see everything on it.

It is also true that even if you have corrected a mistake your old posts might bite you back. Here  is an example.

Pat Adkins has a blog I check occasionally called The Thinking Americanist

He’s right on some things (guns) wrong on others Right to Work and he dislikes my closest friend on the net, but on occasion shows real promise (trust not in princes…great post that).

Well he had a few things to say about my friend Zilla last year(all emphasis mine)

In July:

….and yes, you are faking your illness, a well-known and well respected professional blogger, who gets PAID to do write and blog told me so.

And September

The only thing I said about Zilla, was that I heard, from a good friend of mine; who is a Conservative, who gets paid rather well to blog; that Zilla was faking her illness. I know nothing about, nor have I ever said anything about her husband. If someone is saying anything about her husband, it is not me at all. Furthermore, I have never said anything about Zilla taking a trip anywhere either. If my friend was wrong and he could have very well been misinformed, so be it. But I simply told what I heard from what, I believe was a very good source.

Considering Pat’s source was not only a friend but a “paid journalist” one can certainly see why he would believe it, after all I have several sources of my own that if they told me something I would believe it at once.

However after interview in the Hospital with Zilla went up and he was made aware of it Pat did the right thing in style with a post I will reproduce here in full.

A while back I wrote some stuff about a Blogger, that I had heard some stuff about.

Well, based upon what I have seen Here and Here, I publicly retract what I wrote about “Zilla, of the Resistance

Now that I have actually seen the video. I am convinced. To my defense, I just repeated what I was told.

Well, someone was full of crap and I now, and rightly so, feel like the world’s greatest asshole. :(

If I had the extra hundred bucks; I would pop it in her tip jar and in Dan’s ; but I do not have it, so I can’t. But those who read this blog can.

Public retraction, public apology mea culpa and tip jar request for Zilla. One can certainly not fault Pat’s efforts he went above and beyond a simple correction in a very honorable way.  He also proved himself a loyal friend as he didn’t burn his pal who burned him.

He did however, make a basic mistake that I didn’t notice until today and I’ll wager he hasn’t noticed it either:  He forgot to update the previous posts linking to the correction post.

Now perhaps he figured regular readers who saw the old posts he linked to would naturally see the new. he might have counted on the trackbacks from the correction post to show up in comments or he might have been busy calling his friend for giving him bad info making him look bad.

The problem becomes if another blogger saw the old post and quoted and linked to them, those other blogs now become the primary source for other people and search engines who see the old mistake uncorrected and take it from there.

The point being I suspect this kind of thing happens all the time, it’s the nature of the internet and the blogosphere, there is not much a person can do about it, whether it is a bad post or a porn video shot years before, it’s almost impossible to permanently correct the record on the net, bad info is going to get out there and it is impossible to completely purge it.

So take that as a lesson the next time you prepare to upload a photo, repeat some gossip or say something that might embarrass you or someone else on the net. Take care and be aware.

Because no matter what the Doctor says you simply can’t delete your internet history.

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