Twitter Gulag or no Mike Hummell will be heard on DaTechGuy on DaRadio

by Datechguy | January 11th, 2013

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Twitter Gulag or no Mike Hummell will be heard on DaTechGuy on DaRadio

If your offer’s good it will stand up under fire

Jean Lafette The Buc­ca­neer 1958

A Demo­c­ra­tic thief is as bad as a Repub­li­can thief

Grover Cleve­land

It’s very unusual that I linked from the Daily Kos and it’s 1000’s times odder to get a pos­i­tive shoutout from them but that took place ear­lier today:

I was fas­ci­nated by his unique view so I responded and have been shown noth­ing but respect from the man. I sent him a let­ter and he pub­lished it as a com­ment and as a guest post. I will be on his radio show, air­ing from Worces­ter, MA on Sat­ur­day at 11am East­ern time to dis­cuss the Host­ess strike.

The Author Mike Hum­mell is a mem­ber of the Bak­ers Union, the post he is talk­ing about is here which said in part:

I spoke to a dri­ver from a rival com­pany that has all the work he can get with Host­ess gone, and he said if it was him, he wouldn’t have taken the deal, not with big bonuses going to execs. He said with the cuts they would basi­cally be work­ing for nothing.

I dis­agreed with the premise under the 92% of some­thing is worth more than 100% of noth­ing but it occurred to me: Could these bak­ers have decided they were “Going Galt”?

After all is one per­ceives they are not get­ting the reward for had and increased labor it makes no dif­fer­ence if it is gov­ern­ment or man­age­ment that is tak­ing the sur­plus, the net effect is the same.

Of course in the­ory if it is man­age­ment one can find another employer but to the baker with a more spe­cial­ized pro­fes­sion they might not see it that way.

So in that sense the bak­ers are no dif­fer­ent that any other pro­fes­sional who has decided they just aren’t work­ing any­more for less.

I thought it was an inter­est­ing argu­ment so we exchanged e-​mails and I arranged for him to be on my show DaT­e­chGuy on DaRa­dio tomor­row in the 2nd hour (WCRN AM 830 10 — noon) to talk about the strike from the Bak­ers Union’s point of view.

Today we tweeted back and forth to con­firm the show and the details and he began tweet­ing about his upcom­ing appearance:

hummell

To answer his ques­tion, yes 888 – 9-​fedora toll-​free from any­where to call in.

You might won­der why I have a screen shot of his tweets rather than the tweets them­selves. Well there is an expla­na­tion and it’s not pretty:

I have just been sus­pended from Twit­ter for the 7th time in less than 60 days. I have the emails to prove it. There is an amaz­ing cor­re­la­tion between my post­ings on the Host­ess Bankery and the tim­ing of these sus­pen­sions. Ear­lier today I pub­lished about Host­ess again. Within an hour of tweet­ing the news my account was suspended.

I have never posted a com­ment I wouldn’t show my kids. If my account was up I could prove that too. This is not about me being some kind of troll. I do not use any fea­tures more than an aver­age twit­ter user. I will even­tu­ally receive an auto gen­er­ated response that says I should stop auto reply­ing to peo­ple. The irony is an espe­cially aggra­vat­ing part of this.

I’m not an expert on Mike’s tweets but other than some I dis­agree with (OK most) I’ve seen noth­ing that look like grounds for sus­pen­sion and if he tells he there are no ground for this I take him at his word:

I am not accus­ing twit­ter of doing any­thing vin­dic­tive to me. I am say­ing that they have a sus­pen­sion pol­icy that can be exploited to shut peo­ple up and it MUST be fixed. Some­one is ben­e­fit­ing from this and it ain’t me.

I’ve had sev­eral friends end up in the so-​called Twit­ter Gulag includ­ing peo­ple I know per­son­ally like Chris Loesch. On Twitchy they are talk­ing about tac­tics to fight the use of the Twit­ter Gulag:

The buzz con­tin­ues to build for the Twit­ter Gulag Defense Net­work, a grass­roots project launched last week­end by Twit­ter user Todd Kin­can­non. Using the hash­tag #TGDN, the project con­nects con­ser­v­a­tive activists and helps Twit­ter users com­bat the abu­sive flag-​spam tac­tics used by some left­ists to silence con­ser­v­a­tive voices.

#TGDN has been trend­ing off and on since Sat­ur­day, Jan. 5, and more than 4,000 happy war­riors have joined the net­work. This morn­ing, Kin­can­non reached out to #TGDN mem­bers with his sug­ges­tions for stay­ing out of the dreaded Twit­ter Gulag. His ideas include meth­ods to thwart flag-​spam trolls and tips to avoid trig­ger­ing Twitter’s auto­matic sus­pen­sion algorithms.

I’ve dealt with more than my share of folks on twit­ter who would rather throw an insult than make an argu­ment and I don’t hold them in high regard. If your point of view is valid it should be worth defend­ing and able to accept a chal­lenge. As for try­ing to silence peo­ple on twit­ter let me say under­handed tac­tics used to silence con­ser­v­a­tive speech I agree with are just as despi­ca­ble if they are used to silence lib­eral speech I dis­agree with.

If any­one on the right is respon­si­ble for this, let me say I’m ashamed of you, you should know bet­ter. If you are some­one on the left out­raged by this I would ask you to show that same out­rage the next time some­one tries to silence Ann Coul­ter or my friend Pam Geller.

Either way Mike Hum­mell is going to be on this Sicilian’s radio show tomor­row, he’s going to make his points con­cern­ing the Host­ess Strike, I and my co-​host will make mine, our callers will make theirs and I’ll trust my lis­ten­ers to make up their minds. Twit­ter Gulag or no Twit­ter Gulag I’ve agreed to have him on and that’s the way it’s going to be. Period!

If your offer’s good it will stand up under fire

Jean Lafette The Buccaneer 1958

A Democratic thief is as bad as a Republican thief

Grover Cleveland

It’s very unusual that I linked from the Daily Kos and it’s 1000’s times odder to get a positive shoutout from them but that took place earlier today:

I was fascinated by his unique view so I responded and have been shown nothing but respect from the man. I sent him a letter and he published it as a comment and as a guest post. I will be on his radio show, airing from Worcester, MA on Saturday at 11am Eastern time to discuss the Hostess strike.

The Author Mike Hummell is a member of the Bakers Union, the post he is talking about is here which said in part:

I spoke to a driver from a rival company that has all the work he can get with Hostess gone, and he said if it was him, he wouldn’t have taken the deal, not with big bonuses going to execs. He said with the cuts they would basically be working for nothing.

I disagreed with the premise under the 92% of something is worth more than 100% of nothing but it occurred to me: Could these bakers have decided they were “Going Galt”?

After all is one perceives they are not getting the reward for had and increased labor it makes no difference if it is government or management that is taking the surplus, the net effect is the same.

Of course in theory if it is management one can find another employer but to the baker with a more specialized profession they might not see it that way.

So in that sense the bakers are no different that any other professional who has decided they just aren’t working anymore for less.

I thought it was an interesting argument so we exchanged e-mails and I arranged for him to be on my show DaTechGuy on DaRadio tomorrow in the 2nd hour (WCRN AM 830 10 – noon) to talk about the strike from the Bakers Union’s point of view.

Today we tweeted back and forth to confirm the show and the details and he began tweeting about his upcoming appearance:

hummell

To answer his question, yes 888-9-fedora toll-free from anywhere to call in.

You might wonder why I have a screen shot of his tweets rather than the tweets themselves. Well there is an explanation and it’s not pretty:

I have just been suspended from Twitter for the 7th time in less than 60 days. I have the emails to prove it. There is an amazing correlation between my postings on the Hostess Bankery and the timing of these suspensions. Earlier today I published about Hostess again. Within an hour of tweeting the news my account was suspended.

I have never posted a comment I wouldn’t show my kids. If my account was up I could prove that too. This is not about me being some kind of troll. I do not use any features more than an average twitter user. I will eventually receive an auto generated response that says I should stop auto replying to people. The irony is an especially aggravating part of this.

I’m not an expert on Mike’s tweets but other than some I disagree with (OK most) I’ve seen nothing that look like grounds for suspension and if he tells he there are no ground for this I take him at his word:

I am not accusing twitter of doing anything vindictive to me. I am saying that they have a suspension policy that can be exploited to shut people up and it MUST be fixed. Someone is benefiting from this and it ain’t me.

I’ve had several friends end up in the so-called Twitter Gulag including people I know personally like Chris Loesch.  On Twitchy they are talking about tactics to fight the use of the Twitter Gulag:

The buzz continues to build for the Twitter Gulag Defense Network, a grassroots project launched last weekend by Twitter user Todd Kincannon. Using the hashtag #TGDN, the project connects conservative activists and helps Twitter users combat the abusive flag-spam tactics used by some leftists to silence conservative voices.

#TGDN has been trending off and on since Saturday, Jan. 5, and more than 4,000 happy warriors have joined the network. This morning, Kincannon reached out to #TGDN members with his suggestions for staying out of the dreaded Twitter Gulag. His ideas include methods to thwart flag-spam trolls and tips to avoid triggering Twitter’s automatic suspension algorithms.

I’ve dealt with more than my share of folks on twitter who would rather throw an insult than make an argument and I don’t hold them in high regard. If your point of view is valid it should be worth defending and able to accept a challenge. As for trying to silence people on twitter let me say underhanded tactics used to silence conservative speech I agree with are just as despicable if they are used to silence liberal speech I disagree with.

If anyone on the right is responsible for this, let me say I’m ashamed of you, you should know better. If you are someone on the left outraged by this I would ask you to show that same outrage the next time someone tries to silence Ann Coulter or my friend Pam Geller.

Either way Mike Hummell is going to be on this Sicilian’s radio show tomorrow, he’s going to make his points concerning the Hostess Strike, I and my co-host will make mine, our callers will make theirs and I’ll trust my listeners to make up their minds. Twitter Gulag or no Twitter Gulag I’ve agreed to have him on and that’s the way it’s going to be.  Period!

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