An Army of Barbaras Dr. Who, The Aztecs and Radical Islam

by Datechguy | January 28th, 2013

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An Army of Barbaras Dr. Who, The Aztecs and Radical Islam

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and so we return to the present day. What were the lessons of that episode?

Barbara’s exper­tise on the Aztecs was in the class­room, when she said:

BAR­BARA: Ah, well, that was one of my spe­cial­ties, Susan.

what she knew about the Aztecs came from her stud­ies and while she was aware of the vio­lent and blood­thirsty side of them, her civ­i­lized upbring­ing mak­ing it dif­fi­cult to visu­al­ize the more bru­tal aspects of Aztec cul­tures (Con­sid­er­ing her age and prox­im­ity to WW 2 that’s actu­ally odd. That she meets an excep­tional man (Aut­loc) makes it all the more dif­fi­cult for her to see the Aztecs as they are, yet even she doesn’t catch that while he is will­ing to con­sider her words he doesn’t reflex­ively reject their ways:

BAR­BARA: To say there shall be no more human sac­ri­fice?
AUT­LOC: I shall not oppose the gods if it is their will that such sac­ri­fices cease.

Note the phrase­ol­ogy I shall not oppose, not: “I believe it’s wrong,” or “I see what you mean.” He is will­ing to reject human sac­ri­fice because he sees it as the com­mand of a god, not because it is inhu­man­ity to his fellow-​man.

And while Bar­bara doesn’t see the Aztec world as it is. Ian who would have been of age for national ser­vice does and has been out­side the tem­ple does:

IAN: … If only you could stand away from this thing, you’d see it clearly. Autloc’s the extra­or­di­nary man here. He’s the rea­son­able one, the civ­i­lized one, the one that’s pre­pared to lis­ten to advice. But he’s one man, Bar­bara. One man.

While the Dr. Who spe­cial notes the impli­ca­tions of his­tory, the real story here is the dif­fer­ence between an abstract aca­d­e­mic knowl­edge of a cul­ture and prac­ti­cal expe­ri­ence liv­ing within it…

…and that neatly sum­ma­rizes the edu­cated and diplo­matic left and the young fools they teach when it comes to Islam in gen­eral and Rad­i­cal Islam in particular.

Islam has cer­tain set of teach­ings, and they do not change. Con­sider the recent case of a female Islamic Teacher who taught in school that homo­sex­u­als should be incin­er­ated:

The Islamic Reli­gious Com­mu­nity pre­sumes that after hav­ing spent a whole year near Mecca, she has lost sense of what one can say in a West­ern society.”

Note what the com­mu­nity doesn’t say: “Incin­er­at­ing Homo­sex­u­als is wrong”, “We don’t believe in incin­er­at­ing homo­sex­u­als” they say “she has lost the sense of what one can say in a West­ern Soci­ety”.

Let’s note that these are mem­bers of the Islamic com­mu­nity IN THE WEST, not in the Mid­dle east.

Or con­sider the ston­ing in Dear­born here is a com­ment from the group that was stoned:

This is a police offi­cer in uni­form cheer­ing the crowd on as they throw us out. Now, let me explain some­thing. We preach to a lot of venues. We go to Mardi Gras, spring break, the Acad­emy Awards, base­ball games, plus we preach to a lot of reli­gious peo­ple as well. Such as Salt Lake City, when the Pope comes to Amer­ica, we have signs for him and we fol­low him in the city that he is in; some of the Evan­gel­i­cals that are on TV that are noth­ing more than money hun­gry dev­ils, we preach to them too.

Nobody gets vio­lent except the Mus­lims. Yet they are under the umbrella of the ‘Reli­gion of Peace.’ They are noth­ing more than peo­ple just wait­ing to attack us and because the sheriff’s depart­ment did noth­ing to those lit­tle kids throw­ing debris at us, all that did was fuel fire for these kids because they feel invin­ci­ble. They throw things at us for an hour and a half, they got away with it, they screamed and hollered and we got kicked out of the event. They just fueled a mon­ster that one day is going to strap a bomb on them­selves and blow them­selves up for their god and this sheriff’s depart­ment actu­ally fueled that monster.

Again this is in an Amer­i­can City where this takes place, with Mus­lims who live in Amer­ica, not in Iran or Egypt.

The bot­tom line is this: diplo­mats, aca­d­e­mics and celebri­ties tend to encounter a san­i­tized ver­sion of Islam if they actu­ally encounter it at all. They are an army of Bar­baras who see only what they’ve read and been told. Granted some of them do under­stand and don’t care for rea­sons I describe here, but most will never encounter Mus­lims as they are in their own land (as Lara Logan did) or in their own lan­guage as trans­lated by MEMRI.

Let me give a per­sonal example:

I will be hav­ing the Imam of the Fitch­burg Mosque on my show next month (Feb 23rd 1 pm. I’ve inter­viewed him before and talked to him. He’s a pretty nice guy and the local Mus­lims have never been any­thing but friendly, but they are also in a Mus­lim sect called the Ahmadiyya Mus­lim Community.

In many ways the Ahmadiyya Mus­lim Com­mu­nity is what aca­d­e­mic west dreams Islam to be: they eschew vio­lence and advo­cate Islam through argu­ment and per­sua­sion “Jihad of the tongue” per their founder.

He (Mirza Ghu­lam Ahmad) advo­cated a peace­ful prop­a­ga­tion of Islam and emphat­i­cally argued against the neces­sity of Jihad in its mil­i­tary form in the present age.

They believe Ahmad to be the mes­siah and like Aut­loc, obey said messiah.

When­ever rad­i­cal Islamists or CAIR need an exam­ple of peace­ful Islam the Ahmadiyya Mus­lims are pushed to the fore­front how­ever out­side of the US in Mus­lim lands Ahmadiyya Mus­lims are a tiny sect con­sid­ered non-​believers by almost all main­stream Mus­lims and widely and at times vio­lently per­se­cuted out­side of the west.

Yet these facts are ignored by the Army of Bar­baras in the west. The fact that they are non-​representative of Islam both in the US and inter­na­tion­ally would shat­ter the image of Islam that they carry and they sim­ply don’t want to accept it.

The time will come when their Ian will come along and acquaint them with the real­ity. Whether that Ian will be in the form of an argu­ment such as the one I’ve made today or of an action that can’t be denied remains to be seen.

Hope­fully said action will not be as fatal as the sac­ri­fices made by the Aztecs.

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and so we return to the present day. What were the lessons of that episode?

Barbara’s expertise on the Aztecs was in the classroom, when she said:

BARBARA: Ah, well, that was one of my specialties, Susan.

what she knew about the Aztecs came from her studies and while she was aware of the violent and bloodthirsty side of them, her civilized upbringing making it difficult to visualize the more brutal aspects of Aztec cultures (Considering her age and proximity to WW 2 that’s actually odd.  That she meets an exceptional man (Autloc) makes it all the more difficult for her to see the Aztecs as they are, yet even she doesn’t catch that while he is willing to consider her words he doesn’t reflexively reject their ways:

BARBARA:  To say there shall be no more human sacrifice?
AUTLOC:   I shall not oppose the gods if it is their will that such sacrifices cease.

Note the phraseology I shall not oppose, not:  “I believe it’s wrong,” or “I see what you mean.”  He is willing to reject human sacrifice because he sees it as the command of a god, not because it is inhumanity to his fellow-man.

And while Barbara doesn’t see the Aztec world as it is.  Ian who would have been of age for national service does and has been outside the temple does:

IAN: … If only you could stand away from this thing, you’d see it clearly. Autloc’s the extraordinary man here. He’s the reasonable one, the civilized one, the one that’s prepared to listen to advice. But he’s one man, Barbara. One man.

While the Dr. Who special notes the implications of history, the real story here is the difference between an abstract academic knowledge of a culture and practical experience living within it…

…and that neatly summarizes the educated and diplomatic left and the young fools they teach when it comes to Islam in general and Radical Islam in particular.

Islam has certain set of teachings, and they do not change.  Consider the recent case of a female Islamic Teacher who taught in school  that homosexuals should be incinerated:

The Islamic Religious Community presumes that after having spent a whole year near Mecca, she has lost sense of what one can say in a Western society.”

Note what the community doesn’t say:  “Incinerating Homosexuals is wrong“,  “We don’t believe in incinerating homosexuals” they say “she has lost the sense of what one can say in a Western Society“.

Let’s note that these are members of the Islamic community IN THE WEST, not in the Middle east.

Or consider the stoning in Dearborn here is a comment from the group that was stoned:

This is a police officer in uniform cheering the crowd on as they throw us out. Now, let me explain something. We preach to a lot of venues. We go to Mardi Gras, spring break, the Academy Awards, baseball games, plus we preach to a lot of religious people as well. Such as Salt Lake City, when the Pope comes to America, we have signs for him and we follow him in the city that he is in; some of the Evangelicals that are on TV that are nothing more than money hungry devils, we preach to them too.

Nobody gets violent except the Muslims. Yet they are under the umbrella of the ‘Religion of Peace.’ They are nothing more than people just waiting to attack us and because the sheriff’s department did nothing to those little kids throwing debris at us, all that did was fuel fire for these kids because they feel invincible. They throw things at us for an hour and a half, they got away with it, they screamed and hollered and we got kicked out of the event. They just fueled a monster that one day is going to strap a bomb on themselves and blow themselves up for their god and this sheriff’s department actually fueled that monster.

Again this is in an American City where this takes place, with Muslims who live in America, not in Iran or Egypt.

The bottom line is this:  diplomats, academics and celebrities tend to encounter a sanitized version of Islam if they actually encounter it at all. They are an army of Barbaras who see only what they’ve read and been told. Granted some of them do understand and don’t care for reasons I describe here, but most will never encounter Muslims as they are in their own land (as Lara Logan did) or in their own language as translated by MEMRI.

Let me give a personal example:

I will be having the Imam of the Fitchburg Mosque on my show next month (Feb 23rd 1 pm. I’ve interviewed him before and talked to him. He’s a pretty nice guy and the local Muslims have never been anything but friendly, but they are also in a Muslim sect called the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

In many ways the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is what academic west dreams Islam to be:  they eschew violence and advocate Islam through argument and persuasion “Jihad of the tongue” per their founder.

He (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) advocated a peaceful propagation of Islam and emphatically argued against the necessity of Jihad in its military form in the present age.

They believe Ahmad to be the messiah and like Autloc, obey said messiah.

Whenever radical Islamists or CAIR need an example of peaceful Islam the Ahmadiyya Muslims are pushed to the forefront however outside of the US in Muslim lands Ahmadiyya Muslims are a tiny sect considered non-believers by almost all mainstream Muslims and widely and at times violently persecuted outside of the west.

Yet these facts are ignored by the Army of Barbaras in the west. The fact that they are non-representative of Islam both in the US and internationally would shatter the image of Islam that they carry and they simply don’t want to accept it.

The time will come when their Ian will come along and acquaint them with the reality. Whether that Ian will be in the form of an argument such as the one I’ve made today or of an action that can’t be denied remains to be seen.

Hopefully said action will not be as fatal as the sacrifices made by the Aztecs.

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