San Francisco OK on Bombers and their words, not on Ads

by Datechguy | March 11th, 2013

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San Francisco OK on Bombers and their words, not on Ads

Hazel: Is cowslip com­ing? Maybe he knows.

Fiver: He wouldn’t come. He told me to stop talk­ing about it

Water­ship Down 1978 Richard Adams

Pam Geller just put up this post con­cern­ing a press con­fer­ence that is sched­uled to take place in San Fran­cisco at 4 PM EST (1 PM SF time)

City lead­ers will hold a press con­fer­ence to denounce Islam­o­pho­bic and racist adver­tise­ments by the Amer­i­can Free­dom Defense Ini­tia­tive (AFDI). Last August, San Fran­cis­cans were out­raged over AFDI adver­tise­ments on MUNI that referred to Arabs and Mus­lims as “sav­ages.” The new ads sched­uled to run on MUNI buses today wrongly sug­gest that all Mus­lims are defined by extrem­ism and vio­lence. Board Pres­i­dent David Chiu will intro­duce a res­o­lu­tion con­demn­ing the anti-​Arab and Anti-​Muslim adver­tise­ments at Tuesday’s Board of Super­vi­sors meeting.

The ads are a spoof of the “That’s My Jihad ads”. ADFI’s ads quote Islamic ter­ror­ists’ mes­sage on Jihad. It con­tains the pic­ture of the ter­ror­ist with the direct quote, for exam­ple the ad linked at Pam’s site says:

Jihad, holy fight­ing in Allah’s cause with full force of num­bers and weaponry, is…an oblig­a­tion and duty in Islam on every Mus­lim.” Times Square car bomber Faisal Shahzad

That’s his Jihad. What’s yours?

The press release con­tained con­tact infor­ma­tion so being a curi­ous sort I gave them a call and spoke to Stephanie Ong Still­man, the Direc­tor of Com­mu­ni­ca­tions. She was kind enough with a busy event before her to give me some of her time.

I asked about the press con­fer­ence to find out if it would streamed (it will not be) and then I asked the why they were con­demn­ing the ads. Stephanie said the ads were racist and Islam­o­pho­bic por­tray­ing all Mus­lims as Terrorists.

Fair enough, that’s their opin­ion, so I went a step fur­ther: I asked if the super­vi­sors will be con­demn­ing the Words on the ads or the Bomber or said them? After all if the ads are offen­sive then the words on the ads must also be offen­sive not to men­tion the bomber who spoke them.

She answered: No. They would only be con­demn­ing the ads themselves.

This seemed odd to me, so I asked a 2nd time. “So there will be no con­dem­na­tion of the words of the ter­ror­ist in ques­tion or the bombing?”

A sec­ond time she said No, they are only con­demn­ing the ads.

Being a fair minded man and con­sid­er­ing with an impor­tant event com­ing up (no I don’t mean the WBC finals impor­tant though they are) she was kind enough to give me a few min­utes I gave her another chance and asked one more time.

Nope. They are only going to con­demn the ads.

At this time she excused her­self and I quite under­stand, big press con­fer­ence and a lot to do.

So let’s review.

1. Faisal Shahzad: Con­fessed to 10 counts on a fed­eral indict­ment for an Attempted Car Bomb­ing in Times Square >NOT CON­DEMNED BY SF DA, Board Pres­i­dent, Super­vi­sors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

2. Faisal Shazad words:

“Jihad, holy fight­ing in Allah’s cause with full force of num­bers and weaponry, is…an oblig­a­tion and duty in Islam on every Muslim.”

NOT CON­DEMNED BY SF DA, Board Pres­i­dent, Super­vi­sors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

3AFDI puts up an ad con­tain­ing those words, attribut­ing them to the man who tried to Bomb Times square. CON­DEMNED BY DA, Board Pres­i­dent, Super­vi­sors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

So just remem­ber guys, Say what­ever vio­lent and inflam­ma­tory thing you want, try to Bomb and Mur­der Amer­i­cans and the lead­ers in San Fran­sisco won’t have a prob­lem with you. But if you put your words on an ad in the sub­way That’s beyond the pale!

If you can explain that logic, you’re a smarter man than me.

Update: Since this post will pre­cede the press con­fer­ence it will be inter­est­ing to see if this changes

Update 2: The Vir­ginia Gazette and SF gate report on the con­fer­ence, no sign of con­demn­ing the words or the ter­ror­ists or pols who said them. Amazing

Hazel:  Is cowslip coming?  Maybe he knows.

Fiver:  He wouldn’t  come.  He told me to stop talking about it

Watership Down 1978 Richard Adams

Pam Geller just put up this post concerning a press conference that is scheduled to take place in San Francisco at 4 PM EST (1 PM SF time)

City leaders will hold a press conference to denounce Islamophobic and racist advertisements by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI). Last August, San Franciscans were outraged over AFDI advertisements on MUNI that referred to Arabs and Muslims as “savages.” The new ads scheduled to run on MUNI buses today wrongly suggest that all Muslims are defined by extremism and violence. Board President David Chiu will introduce a resolution condemning the anti-Arab and Anti-Muslim advertisements at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting.

The ads are a spoof of the “That’s My Jihad ads”. ADFI’s ads quote Islamic terrorists’ message on Jihad. It contains the picture of the terrorist with the direct quote, for example the ad linked at Pam’s site says:

“Jihad, holy fighting in Allah’s cause with full force of numbers and weaponry, is…an obligation and duty in Islam on every Muslim.” Times Square car bomber Faisal Shahzad

That’s his Jihad. What’s yours?

The press release contained contact information so being a curious sort I gave them a call and spoke to Stephanie Ong Stillman, the Director of Communications. She was kind enough with a busy event before her to give me some of her time.

I asked about the press conference to find out if it would streamed (it will not be) and then I asked the why they were condemning the ads. Stephanie said the ads were racist and Islamophobic portraying all Muslims as Terrorists.

Fair enough, that’s their opinion, so I went a step further: I asked if the supervisors will be condemning the Words on the ads or the Bomber or said them? After all if the ads are offensive then the words on the ads must also be offensive not to mention the bomber who spoke them.

She answered:  No. They would only be condemning the ads themselves.

This seemed odd to me, so I asked a 2nd time. “So there will be no condemnation of the words of the terrorist in question or the bombing?”

A second time she said No, they are only condemning the ads.

Being a fair minded man and considering with an important event coming up (no I don’t mean the WBC finals important though they are) she was kind enough to give me a few minutes I gave her another chance and asked one more time.

Nope. They are only going to condemn the ads.

At this time she excused herself and I quite understand, big press conference and a lot to do.

So let’s  review.

1.  Faisal Shahzad: Confessed to 10 counts on a federal indictment for an Attempted Car Bombing in Times Square >NOT CONDEMNED BY SF DA, Board President, Supervisors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

2.  Faisal Shazad words:

“Jihad, holy fighting in Allah’s cause with full force of numbers and weaponry, is…an obligation and duty in Islam on every Muslim.”

NOT CONDEMNED BY SF DA, Board President, Supervisors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

3.  AFDI puts up an ad containing those words, attributing them to the man who tried to Bomb Times square. CONDEMNED BY DA, Board President, Supervisors SFMTA or SF Human Rights Commission.

So just remember guys, Say whatever violent and inflammatory thing you want, try to Bomb and Murder Americans and the leaders in San Fransisco won’t have a problem with you. But if you put your words on an ad in the subway That’s beyond the pale!

If you can explain that logic, you’re a smarter man than me.

Update:  Since this post will precede the press conference it will be interesting to see if this changes

Update 2: The Virginia Gazette and SF gate report on the conference, no sign of condemning the words or the terrorists or pols who said them. Amazing

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