Newtown Syria and Red lines

by Datechguy | April 29th, 2013

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Newtown Syria and Red lines

Glo­ria: Did you know that 65% of the peo­ple mur­dered in the last 10 years were killed by handguns.

Archie: Would it make you feel any bet­ter lit­tle girl is they were pushed out of win­dows?

Glo­ria: Wow that’s con­vo­luted logic

Archie: YES and that’s the type of straight think­ing I’m try­ing to put across here.

All in the Fam­ily, Archie & the Edi­to­r­ial 1972

As I heard every­one talk about Syria and the human­i­tar­ian cri­sis there the debate has turned to a Casus Belli and everyone’s favorite Casus Belli is Chem­i­cal weapons.

All over the Sun­day Talk shows the sub­ject was the Red Line and chem­i­cal weapons. Has Syria crossed the line? Is there actual proof of Chem­i­cal Weapons use? Was this just a test case? etc etc etc.

And part of that argu­ment is the idea of Assad using said weapons against his own people.

This seems to be not only the weak­est part of the argu­ment but the least per­sua­sive as John McCain put it.

McCain, one of the most out­spo­ken law­mak­ers on Syria, said Sun­day that it should not mat­ter whether Assad used chem­i­cal weapons. Even if they had not been used, McCain argued, Assad’s forces have com­mit­ted atroc­i­ties already and killed tens of thousands.

Tens of thou­sands of Syr­i­ans dead, NBD, Syr­i­ans killed by Chem­i­cal Weapons, now we have a problem.

Other than to McCain the and a few oth­ers these dead bod­ies are of lit­tle con­se­quence. That these peo­ple are slaugh­tered means lit­tle pro­vided they didn’t die in a way that we object to, and that objec­tion con­cern­ing Chem­i­cal Weapons or more accu­racy the cred­i­bil­ity of Barack Obama.

While peo­ple like John McCain con­sider the actual slaugh­ter in Syria the prob­lem that needs to be solved the it’s the polit­i­cal equa­tion that mat­ters to oth­ers. Just as New­town and the gun debate the actual prob­lem (kids shot dead) in New­town isn’t the issue, it’s about APPEAR­ING that some­thing has been done to the point where the voter is sat­is­fied that what needs to be done has been done.

Who cares if the leg­is­la­tion would have saved the New­Town kids or not? Who care if inter­ven­tion in Syria is (or is not) in the best inter­ests of the US or if tens of thou­sands are killed in a civil war to over­throw a ruth­less dic­ta­tor? It’s all about the vot­ers believ­ing that some­thing has been done, even if that some­thing is just set­ting a red line.

As long as that objec­tive is met noth­ing else mat­ters. Cer­tainly not a lot of dead Syrians.

Update: Stacy McCain reports that mis­sion is not going well:

Ed Mor­ris­sey rounds up the lat­est Syria news and weighs the options for the admin­is­tra­tion, but as I explained yes­ter­day, there are no good options in Syria, unless you count as “good” the like­li­hood that Obama will suf­fer fur­ther dis­as­trous embarrassments.

I’m sure such embar­rass­ments will play no role in his deci­sion.
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Gloria: Did you know that 65% of the people murdered in the last 10 years were killed by handguns.

Archie: Would it make you feel any better little girl is they were pushed out of windows?

Gloria: Wow that’s convoluted logic

Archie: YES and that’s the type of straight thinking I’m trying to put across here.

All in the Family, Archie & the Editorial 1972

As I heard everyone talk about Syria and the humanitarian crisis there the debate has turned to a Casus Belli and everyone’s favorite Casus Belli is Chemical weapons.

All over the Sunday Talk shows the subject was the Red Line and chemical weapons. Has Syria crossed the line? Is there actual proof of Chemical Weapons use? Was this just a test case? etc etc etc.

And part of that argument is the idea of Assad using said weapons against his own people.

This seems to be not only the weakest part of the argument but the least persuasive as John McCain put it.

McCain, one of the most outspoken lawmakers on Syria, said Sunday that it should not matter whether Assad used chemical weapons. Even if they had not been used, McCain argued, Assad’s forces have committed atrocities already and killed tens of thousands.

Tens of thousands of Syrians dead, NBD, Syrians killed by Chemical Weapons, now we have a problem.

Other than to McCain the and a few others these dead bodies are of little consequence. That these people are slaughtered means little provided they didn’t die in a way that we object to, and that objection concerning Chemical Weapons or more accuracy the credibility of Barack Obama.

While people like John McCain consider the actual slaughter in Syria the problem that needs to be solved the it’s the political equation that matters to others. Just as Newtown and the gun debate the actual problem (kids shot dead) in Newtown isn’t the issue, it’s about APPEARING that something has been done to the point where the voter is satisfied that what needs to be done has been done.

Who cares if the legislation would have saved the NewTown kids or not?  Who care if intervention in Syria is (or is not) in the best interests of the US or if tens of thousands are killed in a civil war to overthrow a ruthless dictator? It’s all about the voters believing that something has been done, even if that something is just setting a red line.

As long as that objective is met nothing else matters.  Certainly not a lot of dead Syrians.

Update: Stacy McCain reports that mission is not going well:

Ed Morrissey rounds up the latest Syria news and weighs the options for the administration, but as I explained yesterday, there are no good options in Syria, unless you count as “good” the likelihood that Obama will suffer further disastrous embarrassments.

I’m sure such embarrassments will play no role in his decision.
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