Bob Schieffer is introduced to the hidden underbelly of Gay Marriage debate

by Datechguy | July 1st, 2013

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Bob Schieffer is introduced to the hidden underbelly of Gay Marriage debate

Matthew Har­ri­son Brady: I do not think about things I do not think about.

Henry Drum­mond: Do you ever think about things that you do think about?

Inherit the Wind 1960

There was a moment dur­ing Sunday’s vic­tory lap on the News shows for gay mar­riage and its media allies who sup­port it that was very telling. Bob Schi­ef­fer the old­est and fairest (and that’s not say­ing much) of the Sun­day Morn­ing Hosts in the MSM had just fin­ished speak­ing with Ted Olsen and brought on Tony Perkins of the Fam­ily Research Coun­sel to talk the Gay Mar­riage Issue.

TONY PERKINS: …We’re already see­ing bak­ers and florists and pho­tog­ra­phers forced to par­tic­i­pate in same-​sex mar­riages under the threat of law and in some cases even jail. I can’t think of any­thing that’s more un-​American than that. So I think as Amer­i­cans see that there’s a lot more to same-​sex mar­riage than sim­ply two peo­ple who love each other that they’ll have time to recon­sider this and– and– and decide whether or not we want to trade fun­da­men­tal free­doms of speech and reli­gion for the right of two peo­ple who love each other, which they can do now. They can live together, but can they rede­fine mar­riage in the rest of soci­ety with it?

Now to us in Mass­a­chu­setts and who have been fol­low­ing the ride of the tol­er­ance police, those sen­tences are noth­ing extra­or­di­nary but Bob Schi­ef­fer had no idea what Tony Perkins was talk­ing about

BOB SCHI­EF­FER: How is it that bak­ers and florists are being forced to par­tic­i­pate in this? I’m not sure I under­stand what you’re say­ing here.

Perkins then edu­cates him

TONY PERKINS: Well, we’re see­ing in Wash­ing­ton State, Col­orado, and some of the other states that have these anti– anti-​discrimination statutes that are being imposed that when a same sex cou­ple comes and says “I want you to take pic­tures of my wed­ding or I want you to bake a cake.” And they say, look, my reli­gious con­vic­tions will not allow me par­tic­i­pate in that, they’re lit­er­ally being sued by the gov­ern­ment, not the indi­vid­u­als, and they’ve even been adju­di­cated in such places as New Mex­ico. So we’re going to see a loss of reli­gious free­dom. There is no ques­tion about it. It’s already happening.

Schi­ef­fer seems to be totally caught off guard by this, as evi­denced by his hes­i­ta­tion in the fol­low­ing question.

BOB SCHI­EF­FER: How many– how many law­suits have been filed on that? Because I must say this is under my radar. I haven’t– I haven’t heard this.

Perkins edu­cates him (empha­sis mine)

TONY PERKINS: Well, you know, Bob, that’s a great point. Because the media’s not report­ing on this because they real­ize there’s a lot more behind this than the mar­riage altar. It’s lit­er­ally about alter­ing the land­scape of Amer­ica. There are a num­ber of suits. I mean just a few weeks ago in Col­orado one was filed. So this is hap­pen­ing. And it’s the real­ity that peo­ple will come to face to face with over time because right now same-​sex mar­riage is lim­ited to twelve juris­dic­tions. And as more peo­ple see that their free­doms, the free­doms of par­ents to deter­mine what their chil­dren are taught, to be able to live your life accord­ing to your faith, and all of that’s at risk here. I think peo­ple will say, wait a minute, that’s not– I gave a nod of affir­ma­tion but not to that. And– and so I– I do think there’s going to be time to rethink this.

Frankly I think the media totally agrees with the pros­e­cu­tion of peo­ple in this fash­ion so they find noth­ing incred­i­ble about it, hope­fully thanks to Bob Schieffer’s age he might find the pros­e­cu­tion of Catholics and Protes­tants for fol­low­ing their reli­gion wor­rysome as opposed to Jus­tice Kennedy, Kagen, Sotomayor, Gins­berg and Breyer who declare them sim­ply haters.

(BTW I include the other four as none of them has dis­avowed the lan­guage Jus­tice Kennedy used.)
Now you might have missed this small exchange in the vast ocean of hagiog­ra­phy sur­round­ing the case, but it is sig­nif­i­cant and If I was Tony Perkins I would offer the defen­dants in these cases as inter­view sub­jects to Mr. Schi­ef­fer. He is old enough to not worry about being invited to din­ner par­ties for dar­ing to talk about it.

Frankly If I was Brian Brown, and Tony Perkins or any of the other defend­ers of mar­riage I would make sure I had the defen­dants in these cases at every rally and on every TV Appear­ance from this point on.

Update: Left out the word “wor­ri­some” in the para­graph begin­ning “Frankly I think” corrected.

Matthew Harrison Brady: I do not think about things I do not think about.

Henry Drummond: Do you ever think about things that you do think about?

Inherit the Wind 1960

There was a moment during Sunday’s victory lap on the News shows for gay marriage and its media allies who support it that was very telling. Bob Schieffer the oldest and fairest (and that’s not saying much) of the Sunday Morning Hosts in the MSM had just finished speaking with Ted Olsen and brought on Tony Perkins of the Family Research Counsel to talk the Gay Marriage Issue.

TONY PERKINS: …We’re already seeing bakers and florists and photographers forced to participate in same-sex marriages under the threat of law and in some cases even jail. I can’t think of anything that’s more un-American than that. So I think as Americans see that there’s a lot more to same-sex marriage than simply two people who love each other that they’ll have time to reconsider this and– and– and decide whether or not we want to trade fundamental freedoms of speech and religion for the right of two people who love each other, which they can do now. They can live together, but can they redefine marriage in the rest of society with it?

Now to us in Massachusetts and who have been following the ride of the tolerance police, those sentences are nothing extraordinary but Bob Schieffer had no idea what Tony Perkins was talking about

BOB SCHIEFFER: How is it that bakers and florists are being forced to participate in this? I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying here.

Perkins then educates him

TONY PERKINS: Well, we’re seeing in Washington State, Colorado, and some of the other states that have these anti– anti-discrimination statutes that are being imposed that when a same sex couple comes and says “I want you to take pictures of my wedding or I want you to bake a cake.” And they say, look, my religious convictions will not allow me participate in that, they’re literally being sued by the government, not the individuals, and they’ve even been adjudicated in such places as New Mexico. So we’re going to see a loss of religious freedom. There is no question about it. It’s already happening.

Schieffer seems to be totally caught off guard by this, as evidenced by his hesitation in the following question.

BOB SCHIEFFER: How many– how many lawsuits have been filed on that? Because I must say this is under my radar. I haven’t– I haven’t heard this.

Perkins educates him (emphasis mine)

TONY PERKINS: Well, you know, Bob, that’s a great point. Because the media’s not reporting on this because they realize there’s a lot more behind this than the marriage altar. It’s literally about altering the landscape of America. There are a number of suits. I mean just a few weeks ago in Colorado one was filed. So this is happening. And it’s the reality that people will come to face to face with over time because right now same-sex marriage is limited to twelve jurisdictions. And as more people see that their freedoms, the freedoms of parents to determine what their children are taught, to be able to live your life according to your faith, and all of that’s at risk here. I think people will say, wait a minute, that’s not– I gave a nod of affirmation but not to that. And– and so I– I do think there’s going to be time to rethink this.

Frankly I think the media totally agrees with the prosecution of people in this fashion so they find nothing incredible about it, hopefully thanks to Bob Schieffer’s age he might find the prosecution of Catholics and Protestants for following their religion worrysome as opposed to Justice Kennedy, Kagen, Sotomayor, Ginsberg and Breyer who declare them simply haters.

(BTW I include the other four as none of them has disavowed the language Justice Kennedy used.)
Now you might have missed this small exchange in the vast ocean of hagiography surrounding the case, but it is significant and If I was Tony Perkins I would offer the defendants in these cases as interview subjects to Mr. Schieffer. He is old enough to not worry about being invited to dinner parties for daring to talk about it.

Frankly If I was Brian Brown, and Tony Perkins or any of the other defenders of marriage I would make sure I had the defendants in these cases at every rally and on every TV Appearance from this point on.

Update:  Left out the word  “worrisome”  in the paragraph beginning “Frankly  I think” corrected.

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