Isn’t “Predator who Collects Girls” a Natural Step in our Evolutionary Path?

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Isn't "Predator who Collects Girls" a Natural Step in our Evolutionary Path?

Leonard: Should we talk to some of these women?

Howard: It’s way too early in the night for that. See, first we let the lawyers and the jocks thin the herd, and then we go after the weak and the old and the lame.

The Big Bang The­ory The Hof­s­tadter Iso­tope 2009

Janine Davis: Well, accord­ing to Ms. Jensen, you said that she was a slave to her bio­log­i­cal urges and called her an egg salad sand­wich. I don’t even know what that means, but I’m gonna go ahead and tell you you can’t say it.

Shel­don: Oh! I see the con­fu­sion here. No, no, Alex thought I was sin­gling her out. No. I meant that all women are slaves to their bio­log­i­cal urges, you know? Even you. You’re a slave.

The Big Bang The­ory, The Egg Salad Equiv­a­lency 2013.

Ever since Erick Erick­son wrote these comments

I also noted that the left, which tells us all the time we’re just another ani­mal in the ani­mal king­dom, is rather anti-​science when it comes to this. In many, many ani­mal species, the male and female of the species play com­ple­men­tary roles, with the male dom­i­nant in strength and pro­tec­tion and the female dom­i­nant in nur­ture. It’s the female who tames the male beast. One notable excep­tion is the lion, where the male lion looks flashy but behaves mostly like a lazy beta-​male MSNBC producer.

I’ve had this post in my dying to get out but a lot of things got in the way, but now that we have this story from Robert Stacy McCain that he had some fun with along with this post by PZ Myers (who usu­ally doesn’t get a link from me) both talk­ing about a man who is…

deputy edi­tor of Skep­ti­cal Inquirer sci­ence mag­a­zine and a Research Fel­low with the non-​profit edu­ca­tional orga­ni­za­tion the Com­mit­tee for Skep­ti­cal Inquiry,”

Now if these posts are cor­rect I can cer­tainly under­stand the com­plaints and the reac­tions about this fel­low who is apparently …

a preda­tor who col­lects girls … [who] are chubby, shy, lonely, and insecure.”

He sounds like a reg­u­lar pre-​Bernadette Howard Wolowitz

Howard: You can mod­ify it to cal­cu­late our chances of hav­ing sex by chang­ing the for­mula to use the num­ber of sin­gle women in Los Ange­les, the num­ber of those who might find us attrac­tive, and what I call the Wolowitz Coefficient.

Raj: The Wolowitz Coef­fi­cient?

Howard: Need­i­ness times dress size squared.

but while all these Big Bang The­ory quotes are fun it leads to an inter­est­ing question.

As a Roman Catholic I can cer­tainly see why this man’s behav­ior is not right. If I was the hus­band of Karen Stoltznow I might be inclined to rash action as would, hope­fully any hus­band with character.

What I don’t under­stand are the objec­tions from the atheist/​skeptic com­mu­nity to this behavior.

I can hear the shouts now: “DaT­e­chGuy, that’s an offen­sive remark! Are you sug­gest­ing that the atheist/​skeptic com­mu­nity has no stan­dards of behavior?”

That sounds like a fair point, after all the atheist/​skeptics I know are peo­ple who have proper stan­dards of behav­ior that to a large degree would be indis­tin­guish­able from a reli­gious per­son. You’d like them…

…but hear me out:

We have been told for many years that man is sim­ply just another ani­mal, not cre­ated in the image of God with a soul and an eter­nal des­tiny that we can either embrace or reject.

If this is true, if man is just an evolved crea­ture, than the way peo­ple such as the “gen­tle­man” in ques­tion are sim­ply the end result of the cur­rent evo­lu­tion­ary process and any attempt to change or mod­ify it is sim­ply unnat­ural because this is just how human­ity has evolved.

So if men defor­est an area for wealth or hunt species to extinc­tion, if a man gath­ers wealth to the deter­rent of oth­ers, beat or rob a per­son to obtain their pos­ses­sions. If a mar­ried man decides to go off and get laid at a con­fer­ence or Amanda Bynes decides on self-​destructive behav­ior, if human­ity makes war on each other all of these are per­fectly nat­ural evolved behaviors.

It’s what humans DO.

To ques­tion this fel­low athe­is­tic skep­tic deci­sion to use his posi­tion to attempt to score on vul­ner­a­ble women as “wrong”, or “inap­pro­pri­ate” or “unnat­ural” is just like being Rick War­ren mak­ing the case against Gay Marriage:

I’m nat­u­rally inclined to have sex with every beau­ti­ful woman I see, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do. And why should I reign in my nat­ural impulses? And you say well because I have nat­ural impulses toward the same sex I shouldn’t have to reign them in. Well I disagree.

How DARE you impose a cul­tural par­a­digm on this nat­ural evo­lu­tion­ary behavior

So while I as a Chris­t­ian gen­tle­man can cer­tainly under­stand the objec­tions Ms. Stol­lznow and can see why Rebecca Wat­son might give this advice to men at athe­ist con­fer­ences:

[Women com­plained to Wat­son they didn’t want to attend athe­ist events] because they felt uncom­fort­able in a room full of men. They told me about how they were hit on con­stantly and it drove them away. I didn’t fully get it at the time, because I didn’t mind get­ting hit on. But I acknowl­edged their right to feel that way and I started sug­gest­ing to the men that maybe they relax a lit­tle and not try to get in the pants of every woman who walks through the door. Maybe they could wait for her to make the first move, just in case.

I don’t see why THEY as believ­ers in evo­lu­tion and skep­tics should object if such con­fer­ences are:

a Sausage Fes­ti­val, and athe­ist guys are lonely des­per­ate creeps with poor social skills whose only inter­est in women is sexual.

After all human­ity in gen­eral and males in par­tic­u­lar have evolved this way and if you object you must sim­ply an anti-​science reli­gious fanatic try­ing to impose your own ver­sion of how mankind sorry humankind should be on the world.

Isn’t “preda­tor who col­lects girls” a nat­ural step in our Evo­lu­tion­ary Path? As Lady Gaga sang

Don’t hide your­self in regret
Just love your­self and you’re set
I’m on the right track, baby
I was born this way

Or am I miss­ing something?

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The weekly pay­check sits at $72 a full $233 shy of my $305 goal.

Now this post is very late by my stan­dards as I hit the sack much later than nor­mal and crashed on the couch when I got home.

Hope­fully it is not enough to dis­suade you from con­sid­er­ing kick­ing in to this week’s pay­check. I’m a solid dozen $20 tip jar hits away from that pay­check to keep the mort­gage paid.

Be part of that dozen hit datip­jar below.

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Leonard: Should we talk to some of these women?

Howard: It’s way too early in the night for that. See, first we let the lawyers and the jocks thin the herd, and then we go after the weak and the old and the lame.

The Big Bang Theory The Hofstadter Isotope 2009

Janine Davis: Well, according to Ms. Jensen, you said that she was a slave to her biological urges and called her an egg salad sandwich. I don’t even know what that means, but I’m gonna go ahead and tell you you can’t say it.

Sheldon: Oh! I see the confusion here. No, no, Alex thought I was singling her out. No. I meant that all women are slaves to their biological urges, you know? Even you. You’re a slave.

The Big Bang Theory, The Egg Salad Equivalency 2013.

Ever since Erick Erickson wrote these comments

I also noted that the left, which tells us all the time we’re just another animal in the animal kingdom, is rather anti-science when it comes to this. In many, many animal species, the male and female of the species play complementary roles, with the male dominant in strength and protection and the female dominant in nurture. It’s the female who tames the male beast. One notable exception is the lion, where the male lion looks flashy but behaves mostly like a lazy beta-male MSNBC producer.

I’ve had this post in my dying to get out but a lot of things got in the way, but now that we have this story from Robert Stacy McCain that he had some fun with along with this post by PZ Myers (who usually doesn’t get a link from me) both talking about a man who is…

deputy editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine and a Research Fellow with the non-profit educational organization the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry,”

Now if these posts are correct I can certainly understand the complaints and the reactions about this fellow who is apparently …

“a predator who collects girls … [who] are chubby, shy, lonely, and insecure.”

He sounds like a regular pre-Bernadette Howard Wolowitz

Howard: You can modify it to calculate our chances of having sex by changing the formula to use the number of single women in Los Angeles, the number of those who might find us attractive, and what I call the Wolowitz Coefficient.

Raj: The Wolowitz Coefficient?

Howard: Neediness times dress size squared.

but while all these Big Bang Theory quotes are fun it leads to an interesting question.

As a Roman Catholic I can certainly see why this man’s behavior is not right. If I was the husband of Karen Stoltznow I might be inclined to rash action as would, hopefully any husband with character.

What I don’t understand are the objections from the atheist/skeptic community to this behavior.

I can hear the shouts now: “DaTechGuy, that’s an offensive remark!  Are you suggesting that the atheist/skeptic community has no standards of behavior?”

That sounds like a fair point, after all the atheist/skeptics I know are people who have proper standards of behavior that to a large degree would be indistinguishable from a religious person. You’d like them…

…but hear me out:

We have been told for many years that man is simply just another animal, not created in the image of God with a soul and an eternal destiny that we can either embrace or reject.

If this is true, if man is just an evolved creature, than the way people such as the “gentleman” in question are simply the end result of the current evolutionary process and any attempt to change or modify it is simply unnatural because this is just how humanity has evolved.

So if men deforest an area for wealth or hunt species to extinction, if a man gathers wealth to the deterrent of others, beat or rob a person to obtain their possessions. If a married man decides to go off and get laid at a conference or Amanda Bynes decides on self-destructive behavior, if humanity makes war on each other all of these are perfectly natural evolved behaviors.

It’s what humans DO.

To question this fellow atheistic skeptic decision to use his position to attempt to score on vulnerable women as “wrong”, or “inappropriate” or “unnatural” is just like being Rick Warren making the case against Gay Marriage:

I’m naturally inclined to have sex with every beautiful woman I see, but that doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do. And why should I reign in my natural impulses? And you say well because I have natural impulses toward the same sex I shouldn’t have to reign them in. Well I disagree.

How DARE you impose a cultural paradigm on this natural evolutionary behavior

So while I as a Christian gentleman can certainly understand the objections Ms. Stollznow and can see why Rebecca Watson might give this advice to men at atheist conferences:

[Women complained to Watson they didn’t want to attend atheist events] because they felt uncomfortable in a room full of men. They told me about how they were hit on constantly and it drove them away. I didn’t fully get it at the time, because I didn’t mind getting hit on. But I acknowledged their right to feel that way and I started suggesting to the men that maybe they relax a little and not try to get in the pants of every woman who walks through the door. Maybe they could wait for her to make the first move, just in case.

I don’t see why THEY as believers in evolution and skeptics should object if such conferences are:

a Sausage Festival, and atheist guys are lonely desperate creeps with poor social skills whose only interest in women is sexual.

After all humanity in general and males in particular have evolved this way and if you object you must simply an anti-science religious fanatic trying to impose your own version of how mankind sorry humankind should be on the world.

Isn’t “predator who collects girls” a natural step in our Evolutionary Path? As Lady Gaga sang

Don’t hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you’re set
I’m on the right track, baby
I was born this way

Or am I missing something?

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Olimometer 2.52

The weekly paycheck sits at $72 a full $233 shy of my $305 goal.

Now this post is very late by my standards as I hit the sack much later than normal and crashed on the couch when I got home.

Hopefully it is not enough to dissuade you from considering kicking in to this week’s paycheck. I’m a solid dozen $20 tip jar hits away from that paycheck to keep the mortgage paid.

Be part of that dozen hit datipjar below.

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