Pope Francis: “The Marxist Ideology is Wrong”

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Pope Francis: "The Marxist Ideology is Wrong"

With that quote:

“The Marx­ist ide­ol­ogy is wrong. But I have met many Marx­ists in my life who are good peo­ple, so I don’t feel offended.”

I’m won­der­ing if Time is regret­ting that “Per­son of the year” cover after this inter­view? Of course they could just spin like AP on twitter

Of course it’s going to be tough spin­ning some quotes

Q: May I ask you if the Church will have women car­di­nals in the future?

“I don’t know where this idea sprang from. Women in the Church must be val­ued not “cler­i­calised”. Who­ever thinks of women as car­di­nals suf­fers a bit from clericalism.”

This cuts right to the chase as if women are not val­ued unless they are ordained, it’s a nar­row vision.

While the entries on Marx­ism & women are going to be the most quoted from the La Stampa inter­view the pas­sage that SHOULD be quoted the most is this one (empha­sis mine)

Q: Is Chris­t­ian unity a pri­or­ity for you?

“Yes, for me ecu­menism is a pri­or­ity. Today there is an ecu­menism of blood. In some coun­tries they kill Chris­tians for wear­ing a cross or hav­ing a Bible and before they kill them they do not ask them whether they are Angli­can, Lutheran, Catholic or Ortho­dox. Their blood is mixed. To those who kill we are Chris­tians. We are united in blood, even though we have not yet man­aged to take nec­es­sary steps towards unity between us and per­haps the time has not yet come. Unity is a gift that we need to ask for. I knew a parish priest in Ham­burg who was deal­ing with the beat­i­fi­ca­tion cause of a Catholic priest guil­lotined by the Nazis for teach­ing chil­dren the cat­e­chism. After him, in the list of con­demned indi­vid­u­als, was a Lutheran pas­tor who was killed for the same rea­son. Their blood was mixed. The parish priest told me he had gone to the bishop and said to him: “I will con­tinue to deal with the cause, but both of their causes, not just the Catholic priest’s.” This is what ecu­menism of blood is. It still exists today; you just need to read the news­pa­pers. Those who kill Chris­tians don’t ask for your iden­tity card to see which Church you were bap­tised in. We need to take these facts into consideration.”

The real­ity of the slaugh­ter of Chris­tians today is some­thing the media con­tin­ues to ignore, the Pope men­tions it often, per­haps the media will find time to do so too.

Update: Eliz­a­beth Tenety explains the left’s conun­drum in a nut­shell:

Slate’s Matt Ygle­sias hailed Francis’s Nov. 24 attack on lib­er­tar­ian eco­nomic poli­cies — part of a nearly 50,000-word doc­u­ment called “Evan­gelii Gaudium” that out­lines the pope’s vision for shar­ing the Gospel. Ygle­sias empha­sized that the pope is mak­ing a call not for char­ity but “specif­i­cally for eco­nomic reg­u­la­tion and demo­c­ra­tic super­vi­sion of the cap­i­tal­ist sys­tem.” Yet Ygle­sias caveats his praise: “There’s a lot of stuff about Jesus in his think­ing that I can’t really sign on to.”

Yes, that pesky Jesus stuff. But there’s just one prob­lem: With­out Jesus, there is no Pope Fran­cis. If Francis’s embrace of the dis­abled, his focus on the poor and his mercy for the sin­ner sound vaguely famil­iar, that’s because you’ve heard them before. From that Jesus guy.

You can’t have one with­out the other.

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With that quote:

“The Marxist ideology is wrong. But I have met many Marxists in my life who are good people, so I don’t feel offended.”

I’m wondering if Time is regretting that “Person of the year” cover after this interview?  Of course they could just spin like AP on twitter

Of course it’s going to be tough spinning some quotes

Q:  May I ask you if the Church will have women cardinals in the future?

“I don’t know where this idea sprang from. Women in the Church must be valued not “clericalised”. Whoever thinks of women as cardinals suffers a bit from clericalism.”

This cuts right to the chase as if women are not valued unless they are ordained, it’s a narrow vision.

While the entries on Marxism & women are going to be the most quoted  from the La Stampa interview the passage that SHOULD be quoted the most is this one (emphasis mine)

Q:  Is Christian unity a priority for you?

“Yes, for me ecumenism is a priority. Today there is an ecumenism of blood. In some countries they kill Christians for wearing a cross or having a Bible and before they kill them they do not ask them whether they are Anglican, Lutheran, Catholic or Orthodox. Their blood is mixed. To those who kill we are Christians. We are united in blood, even though we have not yet managed to take necessary steps towards unity between us and perhaps the time has not yet come. Unity is a gift that we need to ask for. I knew a parish priest in Hamburg who was dealing with the beatification cause of a Catholic priest guillotined by the Nazis for teaching children the catechism.  After him, in the list of condemned individuals, was a Lutheran pastor who was killed for the same reason. Their blood was mixed. The parish priest told me he had gone to the bishop and said to him: “I will continue to deal with the cause, but both of their causes, not just the Catholic priest’s.” This is what ecumenism of blood is. It still exists today; you just need to read the newspapers. Those who kill Christians don’t ask for your identity card to see which Church you were baptised in. We need to take these facts into consideration.”

The reality of the slaughter of Christians today is something the media continues to ignore, the Pope mentions it often, perhaps the media will find time to do so too.

Update:  Elizabeth Tenety explains the left’s conundrum in a nutshell:

Slate’s Matt Yglesias hailed Francis’s Nov. 24 attack on libertarian economic policies — part of a nearly 50,000-word document called “Evangelii Gaudium” that outlines the pope’s vision for sharing the Gospel. Yglesias emphasized that the pope is making a call not for charity but “specifically for economic regulation and democratic supervision of the capitalist system.” Yet Yglesias caveats his praise: “There’s a lot of stuff about Jesus in his thinking that I can’t really sign on to.”

Yes, that pesky Jesus stuff. But there’s just one problem: Without Jesus, there is no Pope Francis. If Francis’s embrace of the disabled, his focus on the poor and his mercy for the sinner sound vaguely familiar, that’s because you’ve heard them before. From that Jesus guy.

You can’t have one without the other.

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Update: (Monday) Yesterday In the rush to shovel I forgot to make my lead pitch for DaTipJar to start the week (didn’t hit save) and it shows.

Sunday we only drew $2 toward our $340 weekly goal.

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