Woody Allen to the Porn Industry…Faster Please (Content Warning)

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Woody Allen to the Porn Industry...Faster Please (Content Warning)

Ick is just an argu­ment about cul­ture. It is the same argu­ment that one would have heard con­cern­ing gay mar­riage less that 20 years ago.

DaT­e­chGuy Richard Cohen Nar­cis­sist or Bigot 2008

Mar­tin Rit­ten­home: Young man I sell over $14 mil­lion dol­lars a year worth of Ger­i­tol, Ger­i­tol, that’s the kind of busi­ness­man I am. That show twenty-​one, cost me 3 12 mil­lion dol­lars year in and year out. Sales went up 50% when Van Doren was on. 50%! So the very idea that I was unaware of every detail or aspect of that show’s oper­a­tion, well frankly it’s very insulting.

Quiz show 1994

Any smart adver­tiser will tell you the secret of estab­lish­ing brand loy­alty starts at an early age. For exam­ple the Radio Shack Ad at the Super­bowl is effec­tive because it brought a bunch of faces that peo­ple remem­bered that they enjoyed from their youth. If you want to ani­mate a per­son bring them thoughts from their youth and watch them light up.

As the years go by a famil­iar label, a par­tic­u­lar taste will trig­ger the pock­et­book more even that qual­ity. The fact that humans are crea­tures of habit builds on this.

Bot­tom line if you want to get a gen­er­a­tion to like, want or accept some­thing you want to get them to be think­ing it at an early age and you’ve likely got them for their entire life.

The same is true with cul­tural changes cre­at­ing heroes and vil­lains. Change comes slow. If you want to move the ball of the cul­ture or val­ues, you have to get the ideas into kids heads when they are young. Get em while they’re young and you’ve got em.

Which brings us to a rather dis­turb­ing trend in the pornog­ra­phy indus­try that favors Woody Allen.

You might recall a while back I did a post on Tami Erin the Pippi Long­stock­ing actress who has decided to rebrand her­self as a sex star at age 40 and noted where that career path leads.

There are already plenty of younger more volup­tuous women ready and will­ing to carry them­selves more provoca­tively than Ms. Erin. It won’t take long for the nov­elty to fade and then the stray les­bian kiss, top­less shot or swing around a pole will not be enough to retain the inter­est and pro­cure the monies of the MichaelDick73′s JDogg77′s and Machette42′s of the world.

That’s the point when she is going to have to go a bit far­ther and then a bit far­ther again until a search for Tami Erin will turn up results on a niche cat­e­gory of older woman doing X, Y and Z on porn sites around the world

and in a later post I brought up 50 some­thing per­former Mag­da­lene St. Michaels

tami progress 4

and her busi­ness model as savvy not­ing that she not only pushed and linked fan site but fol­lowed fans on twit­ter but pro­moted their tweets to make them feel included.

How­ever busi­ness mod­els aside in an age where prac­ti­cally no men under 30 have not seen online porn and a increas­ing amount of young women are fans of peo­ple like Ms. St. Michaels. Her porno­graphic films career can tell us a lot about where the cul­ture is heading..

A quick glance of Ms. St. Michaels IMDB cred­its shows her pri­mary work is in les­bian films. Now there is cer­tainly no short­age of guys inter­ested in, as Brian Doyle Murray’s char­ac­ter in the Goode Fam­ily called it “hot les­bian action”, one can pre­sume that as a per­son who’s pri­mary out­put is les­bian films would have a fol­low­ing among women. This is key to my point.

But DaT­e­chGuy”, you ask,“what does that have to do with Woody Allen?” Plenty.

Let’s start by look­ing at the list Ms. St. Michaels per­for­mances per her IMDB page. We find a set of titles begin­ning in 2007 with a par­tic­u­lar theme

2011 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 35 (Video)
2010 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 32 (Video)
2010 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 31 (Video)
2009 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 27 (Video)
2009 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 26 (Video)
2009 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 25 (Video)
2008 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 20 (Video) (as Mag­a­da­lene)
2007 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 17 (Video) (as Mag­da­lene)
2007 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 14 (Video) (as Mag­da­lene)
2007 Les­bian Seduc­tions: Older/​Younger 13 (Video) (as Magdalene)

The series of movies began accord­ing to IMDB in 2005 for we basi­cally had nearly a decade the last movie in the series #43 came out in 2012.

Ok so we have a theme of older women seduc­ing younger women for sex and it’s a theme that has been in play for a decade appar­ently sell­ing enough to war­rant 43 variants.

I won­der if Tonya Druep­pel was a fan of the series?

How­ever even a suc­cess­ful series like that one even­tu­ally runs into a brick wall, basi­cally it gets bor­ing over time, after all if you seen one woman seduce a younger one for sex you seen all 42 of them. So given the com­pet­i­tive nature of the indus­try a new hook was found and Ms. St. Michaels found gain­ful employ­ment in it:

2012 Mother Daugh­ter Exchange Club 24 (Video)
2011 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 21 (Video)
2011 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 18 (Video)
2010 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 10 (Video)
2009 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 6 (Video)
2008 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 3 (Video)
2008 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 2 (Video) (as Mag­da­lene)
2008 Mother-​Daughter Exchange Club 1 (Video) (as Madgalene)

As you might have guessed by the title the “plots” are pretty much a pair of les­bian moth­ers meet­ing socially, bring­ing their daugh­ters and trad­ing them off sex­u­ally. And of course all of these things take place place in nice houses with the most rea­son­able look­ing women talk­ing about the most nor­mal jobs and careers before par­ing off.

You would think that some­thing like this might cross a line that it would not be all that pop­u­lar. After all the idea of pimp­ing off one’s daugh­ter to a friend in order to have sex with that’s friends daugh­ter isn’t some­thing that you would expect to see in the now main­stream porn indus­try but their pro­ducer Girl­friend files which pro­claims them­selves on twit­ter to they’re nearly 57,000 fol­low­ers as the #1 leader in les­bian films. is accord­ing to wikipedia set to release the 30th in the series this year.

Fur­ther­more the series is pack­aged and set to specif­i­cally appear totally nor­mal and totally accept­able to the aver­age per­son that has had been taught by the pre­vail­ing media cul­ture for two gen­er­a­tions to divorce them­selves from Judeo Chris­t­ian val­ues & norms that once prevailed.

I won­der if the series was a favorite of Kate Hunt?

But peo­ple being peo­ple and the sex being sex it gets old until after half a decade even the con­cept of trad­ing off your daugh­ter for sex becomes old hat. So how do you keep the cus­tomer interested?

For­tu­nately for those try­ing to get peo­ple to buy once you’ve crossed the line on pimp­ing out your daugh­ter the next step is really easy and painfully obvi­ous as per some of Ms. St. Michaels lat­est credits.

2012 Seduced by Mommy 5 (Video)
2012 Mommy & Me 4 (Video)
2012 Seduced by Mommy 4 (Video)

Yes you are read­ing that right, that series is all about moth­ers seduc­ing daugh­ters and vice versa although many of the scenes come with a dis­claimer at the start by the “actresses” stress­ing they are not in fact related in any way. Given that such behav­ior would be a crim­i­nal felony that would seems a wise precaution.

Now you might think a series of this nature might be on the fringes of the increas­ingly main­streamed porn indus­try, reduced to the “gonzo” cat­e­gory and con­sid­ered beyond the pale even for them, reduced to rejected inde­pen­dent oper­a­tors work­ing out of damp & dirty apartments.

You would be wrong.

The list of 2014 AVN Award Nom­i­nees for “Best all girl series” include both the Mommy & Me series (now in its 8th edi­tion and going strong) and the mother daugh­ter exchange club series.

And if you react as most peo­ple might with “You’ve got to be kid­ding me” or some­thing a tad more demon­stra­tive for shame. After all who is puri­tan­i­cal old you to cri­tique a series nom­i­nated for awards by their peers?

In fact as the com­pany that pro­duces both the “Seduced by Mommy” & “Mommy & me” series pro­claims to their 15K strong twit­ter feed 15k fol­low­ers that they are a “mom & pop” busi­ness “A les­bian company”

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any such objec­tion might actu­ally be con­sid­ered a hate crime.

And the var­i­ous series con­tinue into this year include a new one:

Another award win­ner I’m sure.

But the ques­tion still stands: What does any of this have to do with Woody Allen & Dylan Far­row? Just this:

For a solid decade a series of porno­graphic films explic­itly directed toward woman have slowly been break­ing down the bar­ri­ers and mov­ing the bar between what is con­sid­ered accept­able behav­ior and what is not.

Young women, who will some­day be moth­ers and the pro­tec­tors of their daugh­ters will be exposed to the idea of said daugh­ters as desir­able sex­ual objects for them. Some­thing that can legally be advanced, first of course as fan­tasy to start but and after years of expo­sure to that type of thing it will go from “beyond the pale” to “just another porn movie” that is seen online.

Con­sider this line from Dylan Farrow’s piece this week­end:

These things hap­pened so often, so rou­tinely, so skill­fully hid­den from a mother that would have pro­tected me had she known, that I thought it was nor­mal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daugh­ters. But what he did to me in the attic felt dif­fer­ent. I couldn’t keep the secret anymore.

When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I hon­estly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger.

If twenty years ago when all of the stuff I’ve writ­ten about was WAY beyond the pale, when Porn was not eas­ily acces­si­ble to the gen­eral pub­lic at home, a young girl actu­ally won­dered if this stuff was nor­mal, what will young women think when they’ve been inoc­u­lated to this for a decade? Stacy McCain had it pegged:

Pop­u­lar cul­ture has been so cor­rupt for so long that many young peo­ple are inca­pable of mak­ing any dis­tinc­tion between vice and virtue, cat­e­gories that sophis­ti­cated peo­ple are expected to reject as old-​fashioned, if not alto­gether obso­lete or, indeed, hate­fully oppres­sive. As for the atti­tudes of adults, well, they are sup­posed to strive for eter­nal youth, to con­form both their appear­ance and their appetites to the fash­ion­able stan­dards pre­vail­ing among the most shame­lessly adven­tur­ous adolescents.

he closes thus.

Wel­come to Amer­ica in 2013. Wel­come to the New Abnormal.

And if the New abnor­mal is where it is today in 2013 where will it be in 2024?

If only Woody Allen had some­how man­aged to delay this let­ter from his daugh­ter till that time it might have been a story where he might not even feel the need to deny it and per­haps Cate Blanchett might not even have felt the need to com­ment at all.

Mean­while away from Hol­ly­wood in Amer­ica proper the story con­tin­ues

Andrea Michelle Car­dosa, 40, was arrested Mon­day in River­side County, Cal­i­for­nia, and charged with 16 felony counts after two for­mer stu­dents accused her of sex­u­ally molest­ing them. One of the vic­tims, Jamie Car­rillo, made head­lines last month when she posted a YouTube video of a phone con­ver­sa­tion in which she con­fronted the teacher she said began hav­ing sex with her when she was only 12:

No word on if she was a fan.

Update: cleaned up para­graph start­ing with “Young women who will some­day be moth­ers…” to make the point of the accep­tance of such behav­ior more explicit

Update 2: more gra­mat­i­cal clean up

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Ick is just an argument about culture. It is the same argument that one would have heard concerning gay marriage less that 20 years ago.

DaTechGuy Richard Cohen Narcissist or Bigot 2008

Martin Rittenhome: Young man I sell over $14 million dollars a year worth of Geritol, Geritol, that’s the kind of businessman I am. That show twenty-one, cost me 3 1/2 million dollars year in and year out. Sales went up 50% when Van Doren was on. 50%! So the very idea that I was unaware of every detail or aspect of that show’s operation, well frankly it’s very insulting.

Quiz show 1994

 

Any smart advertiser will tell you the secret of establishing brand loyalty starts at an early age.  For example the Radio Shack Ad at the Superbowl is effective because it brought a bunch of faces that people remembered that they enjoyed from their youth.  If you want to animate a person bring them thoughts from their youth and watch them light up.

As the years go by a familiar label, a particular taste will trigger the pocketbook more even that quality.  The fact that humans are creatures of habit builds on this.

Bottom line if you want to get a generation to like, want or accept something you want to get them to be thinking it at an early age and you’ve likely got them for their entire life.

The same is true with cultural changes creating heroes and villains.  Change comes slow.  If you want to move the ball of the culture or values, you have to get the ideas into kids heads when they are young.  Get em while they’re young and you’ve got em.

Which brings us to a rather disturbing trend in the pornography industry that favors Woody Allen.

You might recall a while back I did a post on Tami Erin the Pippi Longstocking actress who has decided to rebrand herself as a sex star at age 40 and noted where that career path leads.

There are already plenty of younger more voluptuous women ready and willing to carry themselves more provocatively than Ms. Erin. It won’t take long for the novelty to fade and then the stray lesbian kiss, topless shot or swing around a pole will not be enough to retain the interest and procure the monies of the MichaelDick73′s JDogg77′s and Machette42′s of the world.

That’s the point when she is going to have to go a bit farther and then a bit farther again until a search for Tami Erin will turn up results on a niche category of older woman doing X, Y and Z on porn sites around the world

and in a later post I brought up 50 something performer Magdalene St. Michaels

tami progress 4

and her business model as savvy noting that she not only pushed and linked fan site but followed fans on twitter but promoted their tweets to make them feel included.

However business models aside in an age where practically no men under 30 have not seen online porn and a increasing amount of young women are fans of people like Ms. St. Michaels. Her pornographic films career can tell us a lot about where the culture is heading..

A quick glance of Ms. St. Michaels IMDB credits shows her primary work is in lesbian films. Now there is certainly no shortage of guys interested in,  as Brian Doyle Murray’s character in the Goode Family called it “hot lesbian action”,  one can presume that as a person who’s primary output is lesbian films would have a following among women. This is key to my point.

“But DaTechGuy”, you ask,”what does that have to do with Woody Allen?” Plenty.

Let’s start by looking at the list Ms. St. Michaels performances per her IMDB page. We find a set of titles beginning in 2007 with a particular theme

2011 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 35 (Video)
2010 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 32 (Video)
2010 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 31 (Video)
2009 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 27 (Video)
2009 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 26 (Video)
2009 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 25 (Video)
2008 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 20 (Video) (as Magadalene)
2007 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 17 (Video) (as Magdalene)
2007 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 14 (Video) (as Magdalene)
2007 Lesbian Seductions: Older/Younger 13 (Video) (as Magdalene)

The series of movies began according to IMDB in 2005 for we basically had nearly a decade the last movie in the series #43 came out in 2012.

Ok so we have a theme of older women seducing younger women for sex and it’s a theme that    has been in play for a decade apparently selling enough to warrant 43 variants.

I wonder if Tonya Drueppel was a fan of the series?

However even a successful series like that one eventually runs into a brick wall, basically it gets boring over time, after all if you seen one woman seduce a younger one for sex you seen all 42 of them. So given the competitive nature of the industry a new hook was found and Ms. St. Michaels found gainful employment in it:

2012 Mother Daughter Exchange Club 24 (Video)
2011 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 21 (Video)
2011 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 18 (Video)
2010 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 10 (Video)
2009 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 6 (Video)
2008 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 3 (Video)
2008 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 2 (Video) (as Magdalene)
2008 Mother-Daughter Exchange Club 1 (Video) (as Madgalene)

As you might have guessed by the title the “plots” are pretty much a pair of lesbian mothers meeting socially, bringing their daughters and trading them off sexually. And of course all of these things take place place in nice houses with the most reasonable looking women talking about the most normal jobs and careers before paring off.

You would think that something like this might cross a line that it would not be all that popular. After all the idea of pimping off one’s daughter to a friend in order to have sex with that’s friends daughter isn’t something that you would expect to see in the now mainstream porn industry but their producer Girlfriend files which proclaims themselves on twitter to they’re nearly 57,000 followers as the #1 leader in lesbian films. is according to wikipedia set to release the 30th in the series this year.

Furthermore the series is packaged and set to specifically appear totally normal and totally acceptable to the average person that has had been taught by the prevailing media culture for two generations to divorce themselves from Judeo Christian values & norms that once prevailed.

I wonder if the series was a favorite of Kate Hunt?

But people being people and the sex being sex it gets old until after half a decade even the concept of trading off your daughter for sex becomes old hat.  So how do you keep the customer interested?

Fortunately for those trying to get people to buy once you’ve crossed the line on pimping out your daughter the next step is really easy and painfully obvious as per some of Ms. St. Michaels latest credits.

2012 Seduced by Mommy 5 (Video)
2012 Mommy & Me 4 (Video)
2012 Seduced by Mommy 4 (Video)

Yes you are reading that right, that series is all about mothers seducing daughters and vice versa although many of the scenes come with a disclaimer at the start by the “actresses” stressing they are not in fact related in any way. Given that such behavior would be a criminal felony that would seems a wise precaution.

Now you might think a series of this nature might be on the fringes of the increasingly mainstreamed porn industry, reduced to the “gonzo” category and considered beyond the pale even for them, reduced to rejected independent operators working out of damp & dirty apartments.

You would be wrong.

The list of 2014 AVN Award Nominees for “Best all girl series” include both the Mommy & Me series (now in its 8th edition and going strong) and the mother daughter exchange club series.

And if you react as most people might with “You’ve got to be kidding me” or something a tad more demonstrative for shame. After all who is puritanical old you to critique a series nominated for awards by their peers?

In fact as the company that produces both the “Seduced by Mommy” & “Mommy & me” series proclaims to their 15K strong twitter feed 15k followers that they are a “mom & pop” business “A lesbian company”

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any such objection might actually be considered a hate crime.

And the various series continue into this year include a new one:

 

Another award winner I’m sure.

But the question still stands: What does any of this have to do with Woody Allen & Dylan Farrow? Just this:

For a solid decade a series of pornographic films explicitly directed toward woman have slowly been breaking down the barriers and moving the bar between what is considered acceptable behavior and what is not.

Young women, who will someday be mothers and the protectors of their daughters will be exposed to the idea of said daughters as desirable sexual objects for them. Something that can legally be advanced, first of course as fantasy to start but and after years of exposure to that type of thing it will go from “beyond the pale” to “just another porn movie” that is seen online.

Consider this line from Dylan Farrow’s piece this weekend:

These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn’t keep the secret anymore.

When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger.

If twenty years ago when all of the stuff I’ve written about was WAY beyond the pale, when Porn was not easily accessible to the general public at home,  a young girl actually wondered if this stuff was normal, what will young women think when they’ve been inoculated to this for a decade? Stacy McCain had it pegged:

Popular culture has been so corrupt for so long that many young people are incapable of making any distinction between vice and virtue, categories that sophisticated people are expected to reject as old-fashioned, if not altogether obsolete or, indeed, hatefully oppressive. As for the attitudes of adults, well, they are supposed to strive for eternal youth, to conform both their appearance and their appetites to the fashionable standards prevailing among the most shamelessly adventurous adolescents.

he closes thus.

Welcome to America in 2013. Welcome to the New Abnormal.

And if the New abnormal is where it is today in 2013 where will it be in 2024?

If only Woody Allen had somehow managed to delay this letter from his daughter till that time it might have been a story where he might not even feel the need to deny it and perhaps Cate Blanchett might not even have felt the need to comment at all.

Meanwhile away from Hollywood in America proper the story continues

Andrea Michelle Cardosa, 40, was arrested Monday in Riverside County, California, and charged with 16 felony counts after two former students accused her of sexually molesting them. One of the victims, Jamie Carrillo, made headlines last month when she posted a YouTube video of a phone conversation in which she confronted the teacher she said began having sex with her when she was only 12:

No word on if she was a fan.

Update: cleaned up paragraph starting with “Young women who will someday be mothers…” to make the point of the acceptance of such behavior more explicit

Update 2:  more gramatical clean up

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