Pope Francis Echos DaTechGuy on ….Pope Francis

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Pope Francis Echos DaTechGuy on ....Pope Francis

St Paul: To the Jews I became like a Jew to win over Jews; to those under the law I became like one under the law — though I myself am not under the law — to win over those under the law. To those out­side the law I became like one out­side the law — though I am not out­side God’s law but within the law of Christ — to win over those out­side the law. To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak. I have become all things to all, to save at least some.

1 Cor 9:2022

I’ve writ­ten a lot about the Spin­ning of Pope Fran­cis and in his press con­fer­ence on the plan head­ing back from Rome he indi­rectly noted this spin that going on.

Cristina Cabre­jas, (EFE): Holy Father, the Spanish-​speaking jour­nal­ists want to ask if you are not some­what scared that you or your speeches might be exploited by gov­ern­ments, by power (lobby) groups, by move­ments. Thanks.

Pope Fran­cis: I repeat a bit what I said at the begin­ning. Every word, every sen­tence can be exploited. What the jour­nal­ist from Ecuador asked me, that very sen­tence, some said it was for the gov­ern­ment, oth­ers said it was against the gov­ern­ment. That is why I allowed myself to speak of the hermeneu­tics of the whole (speech). They can always be exploited. At times some news takes a phrase, out of con­text. I am not afraid. Sim­ply I say look at the con­text. And if I make a mis­take, with a bit of shame I ask for­give­ness, and move forward.

He is refer­ring to an addi­tion ear­lier in the press exchange that I’d like to highlight…

And if you allow me, and no one asked me this, but I give you five extra min­utes more as a con­ces­sion, if we need them. In your job, the hermeneu­tics of a text is very impor­tant. A text can’t be inter­preted only in one sen­tence. The hermeneu­tic has to be applied to the entire con­text. There are phrases that are exactly the keys to the hermeneu­tic, and oth­ers that aren’t, that are spo­ken “by the way” or “plas­ti­cas.” So, in all of the con­text, look­ing at the sit­u­a­tion. So look­ing at the his­tory, so being the his­tory from that moment or if we’re look­ing at the past we need to inter­pret an event with the hermeneu­tic of that time. I don’t know, for instance the cru­sades – let’s inter­pret the cru­sades with a hermeneu­tic of how they thought in that time, no? It’s key to inter­pret a speech, any text, with a com­pre­hen­sive hermeneu­tic, not iso­lated. For­give me, I don’t want to play the “plum teacher” (editor’s note: ‘mae­stro ciru­ela;’ Argen­tine idiom that refers to the teacher who is con­stantly giv­ing lec­tur­ing rants), but I say this to help you.

This is EXACTLY what I’ve been say­ing con­cern­ing the Pope since almost day one from the very first moment the left played the “who am I to judge” card.

I’ve been rack­ing my brains to fig­ure out why peo­ple don’t see it and I sus­pect there are two causes for it.

The first is con­di­tion­ing. Our friends on the left have become mas­ters of this where their fol­low­ers hear a par­tic­u­lar word they tune out or get angry etc etc etc and of course we on the right have picked up this dog whis­tle busi­ness, when I hear cer­tain words, I tend to assume “loony left”. When peo­ple say “invest­ments” I know they mean taxes etc etc etc…

How­ever the church doesn’t speak that lan­guage, the lan­guage of the church is Christ and when your pri­mary con­cern is Christ your look on the land is dif­fer­ent. It’s not a ques­tion of look­ing for a spin to advo­cate for a par­tic­u­lar ide­ol­ogy. It’s deliv­er­ing a mes­sage in the con­text of a ser­mon designed to get a par­tic­u­lar audi­ence head­ing in the way of salvation.

But the sec­ond issue is because the media Bias in play here is com­pletely atypical.

Nor­mally when the media hates some­one they do all they can to either ignore their words or spin them negatively.

This time the media, who in my opin­ion hate Pope Fran­cis even more than they hated Pope Bene­dict, is delib­er­ately spin­ning him pos­i­tively (at least in a way THEY would con­sider positively).

But DaT­e­chGuy”, you say, “That’s ridicu­lous”, “the Pope has said all kinds of things that Bene­dict hasn’t”.

The actual fact is not only is what Pope Fran­cis has said con­sis­tent with what pre­vi­ous Popes have said but it con­sis­tent with ortho­dox Catholic belief.

Well if that’s the case why is the NYT spin­ning the Pope oth­er­wise? The answer is quite simple.

The top pri­or­ity for the left right now is the latino vote, They are doing all they can to turn the Latino pop­u­la­tion into the next great demo­c­rat vot­ing block, there how­ever is a prob­lem, said pop­u­la­tion is heav­ily Catholic and absolutely LOVES Fran­cis the first Latino Pope to the point where an attack on the Pope is con­sider an attack on them.

There­fore the last thing the left needs is for promi­nent white lib­er­als attack­ing this pope, par­tic­u­larly in the media.

Thus the spin serves three purposes:

First it’s to deceive lazy lib­er­als both inside & out­side the media who have very lit­tle expe­ri­ence or knowl­edge of the Catholic Church that Fran­cis is some­thing other than what he actu­ally is, an ortho­dox Catholic Priest the media

Sec­ond it allows said media mem­bers to pre­tend that car­ing for the poor and the needy has not always been a pri­or­ity for the church when in fact the Catholic church has both now and in the past fed , clothed, edu­cated more peo­ple than any other orga­ni­za­tion in the his­tory of his­tory, and that’s not even count­ing treat­ing the sick, car­ing for the dying and vis­it­ing those in prison.

Third (and this is their favorite part) by spin­ning the Pope they can per­suade lazy con­ser­v­a­tives who for some rea­son take the MSM at their word in this case, to attack said Pope caus­ing the very reac­tion that they are try­ing to avoid in their own groups.

That so many of us are falling for this is an exer­cise in absolutely fool­ish­ness. Par­tic­u­larly when we have gems like this we could be talk­ing about:

Pope Fran­cis: First of all, why this inter­ven­tion of mine at the con­fer­ence of the pop­u­lar move­ments? It was the sec­ond one. The first was held in the Vat­i­can, in the old synod hall. There were more or less 120 peo­ple. It is some­thing that (the Pon­tif­i­cal Coun­cil of) Jus­tice and Peace orga­nizes, but I am close to this because it is a phe­nom­e­non in the whole world, in the whole world, also in the East, in the Philip­pines, in India, in Thai­land. These are move­ments that orga­nize among them­selves, not just to protest but to move for­ward, to be able to live, and they are move­ments that have strength. These peo­ple, and there are many, many of them, don’t feel rep­re­sented by the unions because they say that unions now are a cor­po­ra­tion and they do not strug­gle – I am sim­pli­fy­ing a bit – but the idea of many peo­ple is that they don’t fight for the rights of poor­est. The Church can­not be indif­fer­ent. The Church has a social doc­trine, and dia­logues with these move­ments, and dia­logues well. You saw it. You saw the enthu­si­asm of feel­ing that the Church is not far from us, the Church has a doc­trine that helps us in the strug­gle with this. It is a dia­logue. It is not that the Church has an option for the anar­chic way. No, they not anar­chists. They work. They try do many jobs, even con­nected with waste, the things that are left behind. They are real work­ers. That is the first thing, the impor­tance of this.

Yes you read that right, that’s the pope say­ing peo­ple don’t feel rep­re­sented by unions because they’re out for themselves.

The Holy Father said this last week, so ask your­self a question:

Is this the first time you have heard this and if so WHY?

I think that’s an excel­lent ques­tion, and I’ve just given you the answer.

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St Paul:  To the Jews I became like a Jew to win over Jews; to those under the law I became like one under the law – though I myself am not under the law – to win over those under the law.  To those outside the law I became like one outside the law – though I am not outside God’s law but within the law of Christ – to win over those outside the law.  To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak. I have become all things to all, to save at least some.

1 Cor 9:20-22

I’ve written a lot about the Spinning of Pope Francis and in his press conference on the plan heading back from Rome he indirectly noted this spin that going on.

Cristina Cabrejas, (EFE): Holy Father, the Spanish-speaking journalists want to ask if you are not somewhat scared that you or your speeches might be exploited by governments, by power (lobby) groups, by movements. Thanks.

Pope Francis: I repeat a bit what I said at the beginning. Every word, every sentence can be exploited. What the journalist from Ecuador asked me, that very sentence, some said it was for the government, others said it was against the government. That is why I allowed myself to speak of the hermeneutics of the whole (speech). They can always be exploited. At times some news takes a phrase, out of context. I am not afraid. Simply I say look at the context. And if I make a mistake, with a bit of shame I ask forgiveness, and move forward.

He is referring to an addition earlier in the press exchange that I’d like to highlight…

And if you allow me, and no one asked me this, but I give you five extra minutes more as a concession, if we need them. In your job, the hermeneutics of a text is very important. A text can’t be interpreted only in one sentence. The hermeneutic has to be applied to the entire context. There are phrases that are exactly the keys to the hermeneutic, and others that aren’t, that are spoken “by the way” or “plasticas.” So, in all of the context, looking at the situation. So looking at the history, so being the history from that moment or if we’re looking at the past we need to interpret an event with the hermeneutic of that time. I don’t know, for instance the crusades – let’s interpret the crusades with a hermeneutic of how they thought in that time, no? It’s key to interpret a speech, any text, with a comprehensive hermeneutic, not isolated. Forgive me, I don’t want to play the “plum teacher” (editor’s note: ‘maestro ciruela;’ Argentine idiom that refers to the teacher who is constantly giving lecturing rants), but I say this to help you.

This is EXACTLY what I’ve been saying concerning the Pope since almost day one from the very first moment the left played the “who am I to judge” card.

I’ve been racking my brains to figure out why people don’t see it and I suspect there are two causes for it.

The first is conditioning. Our friends on the left have become masters of this where their followers hear a particular word they tune out or get angry etc etc etc and of course we on the right have picked up this dog whistle business, when I hear certain words, I tend to assume “loony left”.  When people say “investments” I know they mean taxes etc etc etc…

However the church doesn’t speak that language, the language of the church is Christ and when your primary concern is Christ your look on the land is different.  It’s not a question of looking for a spin to advocate for a particular ideology.  It’s delivering a message in the context of a sermon designed to get a particular audience heading in the way of salvation.

But the second issue is because the media Bias in play here is completely atypical.

Normally when the media hates someone they do all they can to either ignore their words or spin them negatively.

This time the media, who in my opinion hate Pope Francis even more than they hated Pope Benedict, is deliberately spinning him positively (at least in a way THEY would consider positively).

“But DaTechGuy”, you say, “That’s ridiculous”, “the Pope has said all kinds of things that Benedict hasn’t”.

The actual fact is not only is what Pope Francis has said consistent with what previous Popes have said but it consistent with orthodox Catholic belief.

Well if that’s the case why is the NYT spinning the Pope otherwise?  The answer is quite simple.

The top priority for the left right now is the latino vote, They are doing all they can to turn the Latino population into the next great democrat voting block, there however is a problem, said population is heavily Catholic and absolutely LOVES Francis the first Latino Pope to the point where an attack on the Pope is consider an attack on them.

Therefore the last thing the left needs is for prominent white liberals attacking this pope, particularly in the media.

Thus the spin serves three purposes:

First it’s to deceive lazy liberals both inside & outside the media who have very little experience or knowledge of the Catholic Church that Francis is something other than what he actually is, an orthodox Catholic Priest  the media

Second it allows said media members to pretend that caring for the poor and the needy has not always been a priority for the church when in fact the Catholic church has both now and in the past fed , clothed,  educated more people than any other organization in the history of history, and that’s not even counting treating the sick, caring for the dying and visiting those in prison.

Third (and this is their favorite part) by spinning the Pope they can persuade lazy conservatives who for some reason take the MSM at their word in this case, to attack said Pope causing the very reaction that they are trying to avoid in their own groups.

That so many of us are falling for this is an exercise in absolutely foolishness.  Particularly when we have gems like this we could be talking about:

Pope Francis: First of all, why this intervention of mine at the conference of the popular movements? It was the second one. The first was held in the Vatican, in the old synod hall. There were more or less 120 people. It is something that (the Pontifical Council of) Justice and Peace organizes, but I am close to this because it is a phenomenon in the whole world, in the whole world, also in the East, in the Philippines, in India, in Thailand. These are movements that organize among themselves, not just to protest but to move forward, to be able to live, and they are movements that have strength. These people, and there are many, many of them, don’t feel represented by the unions because they say that unions now are a corporation and they do not struggle – I am simplifying a bit – but the idea of many people is that they don’t fight for the rights of poorest. The Church cannot be indifferent. The Church has a social doctrine, and dialogues with these movements, and dialogues well. You saw it. You saw the enthusiasm of feeling that the Church is not far from us, the Church has a doctrine that helps us in the struggle with this. It is a dialogue. It is not that the Church has an option for the anarchic way. No, they not anarchists. They work. They try do many jobs, even connected with waste, the things that are left behind. They are real workers. That is the first thing, the importance of this.

Yes you read that right, that’s the pope saying people don’t feel represented by unions because they’re out for themselves.

The Holy Father said this last week, so ask yourself a question:

 Is this the first time you have heard this and if so WHY?

I think that’s an excellent question, and I’ve just given you the answer.

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