Gop Debate #1 Running updates

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quick thoughts on the GOP debate(s)

Update: Appar­ently the whole world agrees that Carly is the big win­ner:

She also beat Chris Matthews to a pulp

I think the MSNBC audi­ence that heard that is now pray­ing that she doesn’t end up the nom­i­nee or any­where near the GOP ticket.

My advice to each candidate

Pataki: Talk about 911 and Wel­fare num­bers and stick with it.

Jim Gilmore: You’ve got some solid answers you’ve got to project dif­fer­ently somehow

Rick Perry: Texas Texas Texas, every answer to every ques­tion should be about your record on Texas even for­eign pol­icy. It’s a great record grab it and run with it.

Rick San­to­rum: Less record more 25 sec­ond sum­maries of positions

Lind­sey Gra­ham: No more Tip O’Neill stuff Keep mak­ing your case for the war. Remind the peo­ple that we’d rather have the enemy fight­ing the great­est army in the world then our local police

Bobby Jin­dal: Keep push­ing con­ser­vatism as you were, keep push­ing reli­gious freedom.

Carly Fio­r­ina: You know what you did this after­noon? Keep doing it. Don’t get distracted.

OK my verdict

1st Place: Carly Fio­r­ina and it wasn’t close at all.
2nd Place: Bobby Jin­dal Some strong answers and mem­o­rable lines
3rd Place: Lind­sey Gra­ham A sin­gle issue can­di­date but pushed it really well
4th Place Rick San­to­rum Good per­for­mance but he should have used the line he did with me on Mon­day
5th Place: Rick Perry body lan­guage was hor­ri­ble until he talked about Texas. Best Record of the group but just not pre­sent­ing well
6th Place: Jim Gilmore Sounded like a 20th cen­tury man on a 21st cen­tury stage
7th Place: George Pataki I guess we’ll find out if all the MSM peo­ple are cor­rect about the GOP need­ing to embrace Choice

Gilmore looks & sounds like a man out­side of his time

Fair close by Pataki but not enough

Gra­ham closes with both the war and work­ing together.

Fio­r­ina absolutely demol­ishes Clin­ton in her speech

Jindal’s Clos­ing speech the best so far really nails Bush

San­to­rum close was not bad but not memorable

When Rick Perry talks about Texas he sim­ply lights up, if he want to win he has to frame every­thing in terms of Texas.

The Clin­ton ques­tion Jin­dal, San­to­rum & Fio­r­ina answer best.

Gra­ham stick­ing with the war topic, it’s his strongest point

Pataki: Hard hir­ing freeze good answer

Jin­dal, Perry San­to­rum all knock the exec­u­tive order ques­tion out of the park

Graham’s Planned Par­ent­hood answer is excellent

Jin­dal: “Planned Par­ent­hood had bet­ter hope Hillary Clin­ton wins this election.”

Pataki gives the Cuomo answer on abor­tion and invokes his faith, and I just ate.

4th break and the per­son help­ing them­selves the most on this stage is Fio­r­ina and I don’t think it’s close

Is there a rule that says all social issue ques­tions go to Santorum?

Perry & Fio­r­ina both answer ques­tion on Iran, both are cor­rect but Fio­r­ina does much better

Jin­dal declines to con­demn Kasich by name but con­demns his medicare expansion.

Gra­ham is repeat­ing the Clin­ton speak busi­ness “Clin­ton would be third term of a failed presidency”

Hey there are finally two peo­ple in the seats!

Fio­r­ina lead­ing after two commercials

Perry talks about the fail­ure to secure bor­der & lack of trust but some­how his body lan­guage seems wrong, does any­one else see it?

San­to­rum: On hav­ing to wait to get in “Amer­ica was worth the wait”

Gilmore: “We’re got to pre­pare the Amer­i­can peo­ple for a long war.”

Fio­r­ina: “China & Rus­sia are using tech­nol­ogy to attack us.”

Pataki com­pares rad­i­cal Islamic mosques to fire in a theatre

Lind­sey Gra­ham we fight them there or here. Says if peo­ple are not will­ing to put boot on ground their not seri­ous about fight­ing ISIL, he’s get­ting hit on twit­ter for say­ing ISIL instead of ISIS

I didn’t get a phone call from Bill Clinton,”

First mem­o­rable state­ment from Fiorina

Open­ing state­ments: zzzzzzzzzz

quick thoughts on the GOP debate(s)

 

Update:  Apparently the whole world agrees that Carly is the big winner:

She also beat Chris Matthews to a pulp

I think the MSNBC audience that heard that is now praying that she doesn’t end up the nominee or anywhere near the GOP ticket.

My advice to each candidate

Pataki:  Talk about 9/11 and Welfare numbers and stick with it.

Jim Gilmore:  You’ve got some solid answers you’ve got to project differently somehow

Rick Perry:  Texas Texas Texas, every answer to every question should be about your record on Texas even foreign policy.  It’s a great record grab it and run with it.

Rick Santorum:  Less record more 25 second summaries of positions

Lindsey Graham:  No more Tip O’Neill stuff Keep making your case for the war.  Remind the people that we’d rather have the enemy fighting the greatest army in the world then our local police

Bobby Jindal:  Keep pushing conservatism as you were, keep pushing religious freedom.

Carly Fiorina:  You know what you did this afternoon?  Keep doing it.  Don’t get distracted.

OK my verdict

1st Place: Carly Fiorina and it wasn’t close at all.
2nd Place: Bobby Jindal Some strong answers and memorable lines
3rd Place: Lindsey Graham A single issue candidate but pushed it really well
4th Place Rick Santorum Good performance but he should have used the line he did with me on Monday
5th Place: Rick Perry body language was horrible until he talked about Texas. Best Record of the group but just not presenting well
6th Place: Jim Gilmore Sounded like a 20th century man on a 21st century stage
7th Place: George Pataki I guess we’ll find out if all the MSM people are correct about the GOP needing to embrace Choice

Gilmore looks & sounds like a man outside of his time

Fair close by Pataki but not enough

Graham closes with both the war and working together.

Fiorina absolutely demolishes Clinton in her speech

Jindal’s Closing speech the best so far really nails Bush

Santorum close was not bad but not memorable

When Rick Perry talks about Texas he simply lights up, if he want to win he has to frame everything in terms of Texas.

The Clinton question Jindal, Santorum & Fiorina answer best.

Graham sticking with the war topic, it’s his strongest point

Pataki: Hard hiring freeze good answer

Jindal, Perry Santorum all knock the executive order question out of the park

Graham’s Planned Parenthood answer is excellent

Jindal: “Planned Parenthood had better hope Hillary Clinton wins this election.”

Pataki gives the Cuomo answer on abortion and invokes his faith, and I just ate.

4th break and the person helping themselves the most on this stage is Fiorina and I don’t think it’s close

Is there a rule that says all social issue questions go to Santorum?

Perry & Fiorina both answer question on Iran, both are correct but Fiorina does much better

Jindal declines to condemn Kasich by name but condemns his medicare expansion.

Graham is repeating the Clinton speak business “Clinton would be third term of a failed presidency”

Hey there are finally two people in the seats!

Fiorina leading after two commercials

Perry talks about the failure to secure border & lack of trust but somehow his body language seems wrong, does anyone else see it?

Santorum: On having to wait to get in “America was worth the wait”

Gilmore: “We’re got to prepare the American people for a long war.”

Fiorina: “China & Russia are using technology to attack us.”

Pataki compares radical Islamic mosques to fire in a theatre

Lindsey Graham we fight them there or here. Says if people are not willing to put boot on ground their not serious about fighting ISIL, he’s getting hit on twitter for saying ISIL instead of ISIS

“I didn’t get a phone call from Bill Clinton,”

First memorable statement from Fiorina

Opening statements: zzzzzzzzzz