Ian McKellen Not so Irrational Fear of Scripture

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Ian McKellen Not so Irrational Fear of Scripture

Just a reminder that pre­tend­ing to be a hero who fights for the west in movies doesn’t make it so in real­ity.

Details: Is it true that when you stay at hotels you tear out the Bible page that con­demns homosexuality?

Ian McK­ellen: I do, absolutely. I’m not proudly defac­ing the book, but it’s a choice between remov­ing that page and throw­ing away the whole Bible. And I’m not really the first: I got deliv­ered a pack­age of 40 of those pages — Leviti­cus 18:22 — that had been torn out by a mar­ried cou­ple I know. They put them on a bit of string so that I could hang it up in the bathroom.

That a mem­ber of the race that fought the book burn­ing Nazis is doing this is frankly an insult to the mem­ory of those who fought to destroy them but Sir Ian’s actions bring up three inter­est­ing thoughts.

The first is the obvi­ous ques­tion to one famil­iar with scrip­ture: Why pull the pages from Leviti­cus but not from St. Paul’s 2nd let­ter to the Corinthi­ans:

Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the king­dom of God? Do not be deceived; nei­ther for­ni­ca­tors nor idol­aters nor adul­ter­ers nor boy pros­ti­tutes nor prac­tic­ing homo­sex­u­als nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunk­ards nor slan­der­ers nor rob­bers will inherit the king­dom of God.

That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had your­selves washed, you were sanc­ti­fied, you were jus­ti­fied in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

I can’t see why one would leave St. Paul and the New Tes­ta­ment alone when it is much more read than Leviti­cus. If the goal is to pre­vent peo­ple from read­ing that mes­sage the log­i­cal move would be to pull both or if one is remov­ing only one, the lat­ter. I’m pre­sum­ing it’s sheer igno­rance on his part but given attempts to spin the New Tes­ta­ment lately by revi­sion­ist schol­ars per­haps doing so would be dam­ag­ing to those efforts. It would be a pub­lic state­ment that Christ stands against this sin and this would under­mine too many pre­tend­ing some­thing else.

The Sec­ond thought comes from this ironic pas­sage via Instapun­dit con­cern­ing syr­ian refugees:

Sir Ian McK­ellen com­ments on the influx of Syr­ian refugees into West­ern nations. McK­ellen says these peo­ple should ‘be looked after’ until they can return to their home coun­try and that we should trust author­i­ties to weed out any indi­vid­ual who poses a threat.

I find this a rather odd con­tra­dic­tion give Islam’s great love for Homo­sex­u­al­ity as the very pub­licly gay Milo Yiannopou­los:

So you can accuse me of being “islam­o­pho­bic” if you want, because no, I don’t want to be shouted at or spat on in the street. Maybe my gay­ness is stand­ing in the way of a Mus­lim utopia… but I’m going to be self­ish here and say maybe we don’t import all the peo­ple who want to mur­der me.

I’m seri­ous. Gay peo­ple are get­ting stoned to death all the time in the Mid­dle East, and not in the fun way: in the throw-​big-​rocks-​at-​your-​head-​until-​you-​die way. I don’t mean to be cal­lous, but what are we gain­ing by let­ting these peo­ple in? Why can’t we help them with over­seas aid? Why do they need to come here? Aren’t we just encour­ag­ing more of them to risk the trip by throw­ing our bor­ders open?

and we’re not just talk­ing ISIS either:

These are the atti­tudes we’re import­ing by allow­ing mil­lions of Mus­lims to set­tle in west­ern Europe. Sorry if that sounds intol­er­ant, but remem­ber women and gays aren’t just treated like shit by ISIS, but main­stream Mus­lim cul­ture, too. I can’t remem­ber how many Mus­lim coun­tries have the death penalty for homo­sex­u­al­ity. What is it, ten? Eleven?

If Sir Ian can’t han­dle the chris­t­ian scrip­tures, thou­sands of peo­ple bear­ing the Koran or books of Hadiths which are still being used to kill gays all over the world under local law should be unbear­able for him.

We don’t have any word on if Sir Ian feels com­pelled to tear pages out of the Koran or of Islamic Hadiths when he encoun­ters them. Larry King didn’t bother to ask, if he does per­haps he may choose to keep quiet about it.

I can’t imag­ine why.

Finally and most reveal­ing is his self con­grat­u­la­tory state­ment of restraint say­ing it’s a choice between defac­ing the book or throw­ing it away altogether.

What’s so inter­est­ing is that there is an obvi­ous 3rd choice: Leave the book alone.

While we often hear the cul­ture por­tray Chris­tians of all stripes as “puri­tan­i­cal” and “intol­er­ant” there seems to be a dis­tinct lack of chris­tians defac­ing or destroy­ing what would be con­sid­ered “gay friendly” mate­r­ial when encoun­ter­ing it dur­ing travel.

The fact that the wealthy and com­fort­able Sir Ian doesn’t seem to have the restraint that’s shown by the aver­age Chris­t­ian speaks vol­umes about the sup­posed tol­er­ance and open-​mindedness of the left but I sus­pect it speaks to some­thing else.

As I’ve said many times no amount of belief on my part or dis­be­lief on some­one else’s part changes has any bear­ing on the actual truth of Chris­tian­ity in gen­eral or Catholi­cism in par­tic­u­lar (or any other reli­gion for that matter).

As a Catholic the truth of the faith is a given and while I might object to the long term cul­tural dam­age the changes the left have brought to soci­ety I don’t let myself be made crazy by them because in the end none of it changes eter­nal truths. My pri­mary respon­si­bil­ity is my own soul. While I might pray for and advise oth­ers con­cern­ing said truths in the hope help­ing them gain eter­nal life & spar­ing them the suf­fer­ings of eter­nal damna­tion the final respon­si­bil­ity for their souls is ulti­mately their con­cern and while it’s sad I don’t allow it to keep me from functioning.

Yet to McK­ellen who con­sid­ers scrip­ture a fan­tasy to be ignored and is clearly an edu­cated man sim­ply can’t han­dle a page in a book.

Mind you he doesn’t have to read that page, he doesn’t have to open the book in fact he doesn’t have to open the par­tic­u­lar drawer that the book is in. Sim­ply know­ing that a page in a book in a drawer in a room con­demns his life choices is too much for him.

Now if he believes the Bible is just a fable and Chris­tian­ity is just a made up reli­gion such an obses­sion to destruc­tion is beneath a man as eru­dite and edu­cated as Sir Ian McK­ellen. It’s an act that is com­pletely irrational.

But if I’m right and the whole thing, Jesus, God, Angels, Dev­ils etc are in fact real­ity than said obses­sion makes per­fect sense. It would mean that the page in that book is a reminder of a truth that can be denied only for a time, a truth that his guardian angel whis­pers in his ear, a truth that at age sev­enty is clos­ing in.

Proverbs says: The begin­ning of wis­dom is the fear of the LORD, (Proverbs 9:10a). I sub­mit and sug­gest that Sir Ian’s appar­ent fear is com­pletely ratio­nal and is a sign of hope for him, because there is always the chance that said fear will move him to dif­fer­ent action.

I wish him luck.

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Just a reminder that pretending to be a hero who fights for the west in movies doesn’t make it so in reality.

Details: Is it true that when you stay at hotels you tear out the Bible page that condemns homosexuality?

Ian McKellen: I do, absolutely. I’m not proudly defacing the book, but it’s a choice between removing that page and throwing away the whole Bible. And I’m not really the first: I got delivered a package of 40 of those pages — Leviticus 18:22 — that had been torn out by a married couple I know. They put them on a bit of string so that I could hang it up in the bathroom.

That a member of the race that fought the book burning Nazis is doing this is frankly an insult to the memory of those who fought to destroy them but Sir Ian’s actions bring up three interesting thoughts.

The first is the obvious question to one familiar with scripture:  Why pull the pages from Leviticus but not from St. Paul’s 2nd letter to the Corinthians:

Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 

That is what some of you used to be; but now you have had yourselves washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

I can’t see why one would leave St. Paul and the New Testament alone when it is much more read than Leviticus.  If the goal is to prevent people from reading that message the logical move would be to pull both or if one is removing only one, the latter.  I’m presuming it’s sheer ignorance on his part but given attempts to spin the New Testament lately by revisionist scholars perhaps doing so would be damaging to those efforts.  It would be a public statement that Christ stands against this sin and this would undermine too many pretending something else.

The Second thought comes from this ironic passage via Instapundit concerning syrian refugees:

Sir Ian McKellen comments on the influx of Syrian refugees into Western nations. McKellen says these people should ‘be looked after’ until they can return to their home country and that we should trust authorities to weed out any individual who poses a threat.

I find this a rather odd contradiction give Islam’s great love for Homosexuality as the very publicly gay Milo Yiannopoulos:

So you can accuse me of being “islamophobic” if you want, because no, I don’t want to be shouted at or spat on in the street. Maybe my gayness is standing in the way of a Muslim utopia… but I’m going to be selfish here and say maybe we don’t import all the people who want to murder me.

I’m serious. Gay people are getting stoned to death all the time in the Middle East, and not in the fun way: in the throw-big-rocks-at-your-head-until-you-die way. I don’t mean to be callous, but what are we gaining by letting these people in? Why can’t we help them with overseas aid? Why do they need to come here? Aren’t we just encouraging more of them to risk the trip by throwing our borders open?

and we’re not just talking ISIS either:

These are the attitudes we’re importing by allowing millions of Muslims to settle in western Europe. Sorry if that sounds intolerant, but remember women and gays aren’t just treated like shit by ISIS, but mainstream Muslim culture, too. I can’t remember how many Muslim countries have the death penalty for homosexuality. What is it, ten? Eleven?

If Sir Ian can’t handle the christian scriptures, thousands of people bearing the Koran or books of Hadiths which are still being used to kill gays all over the world under local law should be unbearable for him.

We don’t have any word on if Sir Ian feels compelled to tear pages out of the Koran or of Islamic Hadiths when he encounters them.  Larry King didn’t bother to ask, if he does perhaps he may choose to keep quiet about it.

I can’t imagine why.

 

Finally and most revealing is his self congratulatory statement of restraint saying it’s a choice between defacing the book or throwing it away altogether.

What’s so interesting is that there is an obvious 3rd choice:  Leave the book alone. 

While we often hear the culture portray Christians of all stripes as “puritanical” and “intolerant” there seems to be a distinct lack of christians defacing or destroying what would be considered “gay friendly” material when encountering it during travel.

The fact that the wealthy and comfortable Sir Ian doesn’t seem to have the restraint that’s shown by the average Christian speaks volumes about the supposed tolerance and open-mindedness of the left but I suspect it speaks to something else.

As I’ve said many times no amount of belief on my part or disbelief on someone else’s part changes has any bearing on the actual truth of Christianity in general or Catholicism in particular (or any other religion for that matter).

As a Catholic the truth of the faith is a given and while I might object to the long term cultural damage the changes the left have brought to society I don’t let myself be made crazy by them because in the end none of it changes eternal truths.  My primary responsibility is my own soul.  While I might pray for and advise others concerning said truths in the hope helping them gain eternal life & sparing them the sufferings of eternal damnation the final responsibility for their souls is ultimately their concern and while it’s sad I don’t allow it to keep me from functioning.

Yet to McKellen who considers scripture a fantasy to be ignored and is clearly an educated man simply can’t handle a page in a book.

Mind you he doesn’t have to read that page, he doesn’t have to open the book in fact he doesn’t have to open the particular drawer that the book is in.  Simply knowing that a page in a book in a drawer in a room condemns his life choices is too much for him.

Now if he believes the Bible is just a fable and Christianity is just a made up religion such an obsession to destruction is beneath a man as erudite and educated as Sir Ian McKellen.  It’s an act that is completely irrational.

But if I’m right and the whole thing, Jesus, God, Angels, Devils etc are in fact reality than said obsession makes perfect sense.  It would mean that the page in that book is a reminder of a truth that can be denied only for a time, a truth that his guardian angel whispers in his ear, a truth that at age seventy is closing in.

Proverbs says:  The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the LORD, (Proverbs 9:10a).  I submit and suggest that Sir Ian’s apparent fear is completely rational and is a sign of hope for him, because there is always the chance that said fear will move him to different action.

I wish him luck.

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