Bob Dole isn’t afraid Ted Cruz would lose, he’s afraid Cruz will WIN

by Datechguy | January 21st, 2016

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Bob Dole isn't afraid Ted Cruz would lose, he's afraid Cruz will WIN

As soon as they get here, we need to co-​opt them.

Sen Trent Lott (R-​MS) 2010 on Tea Party members

Yes­ter­day I noted that one of the biggest bene­fac­tors of Sarah Palin’s endorse­ment of Don­ald Trump was Tina Fey.

And com­mented that Palin’s endorse­ment helped reas­sure Tea Party mem­bers con­cern­ing the Don­ald.

Palin’s pro-​life cre­den­tials are impec­ca­ble, her rep­u­ta­tion as a con­ser­v­a­tive is strong on all of the issues that mat­ter to a lot of con­ser­v­a­tives Palin has walked the walk.

The fact that she is will­ing to put that behind Trump is going to reas­sure a lot of peo­ple who were not quite sold. It gives Don­ald Trump the thing he needed the most.

Because the Tea Party voter has been taken for a ride more than once so there is noth­ing that helps Don­ald Trump (and hurts Ted Cruz) more than an endorse­ment that allays those fears.

Well to para­phrase a bit of scrip­ture, the endorse­ment giveth, and the endorse­ment taketh away:

Bob Dole, the for­mer Kansas sen­a­tor and 1996 Repub­li­can pres­i­den­tial nom­i­nee, has never been fond of Sen­a­tor Ted Cruz of Texas. But in an inter­view Wednes­day, Mr. Dole said that the party would suf­fer “cat­a­clysmic” and “whole­sale losses” if Mr. Cruz were the nom­i­nee, and that Don­ald J. Trump would fare better.

Because noth­ing elic­its trust from the Tea Party than the ulti­mate sym­bol of the estab­lish­ment GOP, a man who is actu­ally a Jeb Bush chair attack­ing Ted Cruz and push­ing Don­ald Trump

“I ques­tion his alle­giance to the party,” Mr. Dole said of Mr. Cruz. “I don’t know how often you’ve heard him say the word ‘Republican’ — not very often.” Instead, Mr. Cruz uses the word “con­ser­v­a­tive,” Mr. Dole said, before offer­ing up a dif­fer­ent word for Mr. Cruz: “extremist.”

Mind you this is the same guy who didn’t have an issue with the alle­giance to the party of other sen­a­tors as Stacy McCain once put it:

It’s not just that I remem­ber all the recent back­stab­bing and sell­outs by Mitch McConnell and his GOP Sen­ate cronies, but I also remem­ber the his­tory of Repub­li­can Sen­ate majori­ties under such paragons of con­ser­v­a­tive lead­er­ship as Bob Dole and Trent Lott. I remem­ber how GOP lead­ers begged and grov­eled in their vain attempts to retain the “party loy­alty” of such stal­warts of Repub­li­can prin­ci­ple as Jim Jef­fords and Arlen Specter. And then I think one more time about that Mis­sis­sippi pri­mary, you see, and the way all these things keep adding up in my mind …

I don’t remem­ber Dole ques­tion­ing the loy­alty of either Jef­fords or Specter, do you. Mean­while Dole sug­gested an alter­na­tive to Ted Cruz. Who was it? Jeb Bush who he endorsed? John Kasich whose back­ing by the NH GOP estab­lish­ment seems to be finally pay­ing off? Marco Rubio or Chris Christie?

Nope

But Mr. Dole, 92, said he thought Mr. Trump could “prob­a­bly work with Con­gress, because he’s, you know, he’s got the right per­son­al­ity and he’s kind of a deal-​maker.”

The remarks by Mr. Dole reflect wider unease with Mr. Cruz among mem­bers of the Repub­li­can estab­lish­ment, but few lead­ing mem­bers of the party have been as can­did and cutting.

Oddly Enough Sen­a­tor Dole is mak­ing the same case that I did con­cern­ing Don­ald Trump vs Cruz back in Octo­ber when nobody was mak­ing that argu­ment:

If Ted Cruz is in the White House, the excuses for not defund­ing Oba­macare, for not defund­ing Planned Par­ent­hood and for defund­ing the Import Export bank sud­denly dis­ap­pear. The GOP estab­lish­ment which doesn’t mind show votes against such items will find them­selves fac­ing the dis­agree­able prospect of these things actu­ally happening.…

…If Ted Cruz is will­ing to take on prac­ti­cally his entire cau­cus as the junior sen­a­tor against a pow­er­ful Sen­ate leader how much more will­ing will he be will­ing to do so with the bully pul­pit & the power that comes with it in his hands?…

…Now con­trast that worry with what the Estab­lish­ment will had to deal with in a Trump admin­is­tra­tion. Pic­ture a group of peo­ple appointed by a prag­matic deal maker and pic­ture the estab­lish­ment and even the left hav­ing to deal with Trump and his appointees, many of whom will be self-​made and have absolutely no loy­alty to the con­ser­v­a­tive elec­torate that said estab­lish­ment loathes so much.

Then finally con­sider Trump him­self, he prides him­self as being per­son who is a great nego­tia­tor and deal­maker. The prob­lem with a deal­maker is the key ques­tion: “What do you give up to make the deal?”

If you are an Estab­lish­ment repub­li­can or even a demo­c­rat that ques­tion will con­sole you.

Mean­while Sen­a­tor Dole’s inter­view also pro­vides a line so com­i­cal that I sug­gest you put down any drink you might be hold­ing before you read it:

“Cruz is in the Sen­ate, so maybe he’s part of the estab­lish­ment. You know, I’ve never really known what the estab­lish­ment was.”

As the sen­a­tor is unsure what the “GOP Estab­lish­ment” means Allow me to remind the Senator.

The estab­lish­ment were the peo­ple who hap­pily took the com­mit­tee chairs when con­ser­v­a­tives showed up to give the GOP majori­ties in 1994, 2010 and 2014 but were damned if they were going to let the vot­ers who gave them those chairs tell the what to do. They were the guys who con­demned the porkbustersPork­busters move­ment (remem­ber them) when they called on the GOP to con­trol spend­ing when they were in charge:

I’ll just say this about the so-​called pork­busters. I’m get­ting damn tired of hear­ing from them. They have been noth­ing but trou­ble ever since Kat­rina. We in Mis­sis­sippi have not asked for more than we deserve.

but became born again deficit hawks once their chairs were lost:

The estab­lish­ment GOP was deter­mined that these “pork­busters” had to be stopped…and then in 2006 they lost the congress.

Sud­denly John Boehner was speak­ing against spending

What’s the word for that? UNEXPECTEDLY

Like the term “NY Val­ues” the vot­ers know what the term “Estab­lish­ment GOP” means and Ted Cruz isn’t it, as I put it years ago:

Power is con­gress is based on the abil­ity to grant favors. The rea­sons mil­lions of dol­lars are spent on lob­by­ists is because the votes on the house & sen­ate floor, the spend­ing on the White House can make or break a busi­ness and pay rewards many times what the cost of their invest­ment is.

It’s one thing for the Estab­lish­ment to get Tea Party votes in a spe­cial elec­tion but it’s another thing if they actu­ally man­age to change the cul­ture of Wash­ing­ton, sud­denly the revolv­ing door from con­gress to wealth closes and that they can’t abide

and a Guy like Ted Cruz who isn’t even will­ing to pan­der in Iowa on Ethanol is a threat to their entire way of life:

What’s the point of a chair­man­ship if you don’t have the power of the purse?

And it’s not just their for­tune, there are the hangers-​on, the cam­paign groups, the con­sul­tants, the writ­ers a whole group of peo­ple who feed off of them. Do you think they will jump off the gravy train willingly?

That why the Estab­lish­ment walks a fine line, they will cam­paign for tea party votes when it costs them lit­tle. They will even give lip ser­vice to their can­di­dates, but the moment that com­fort­able life is threat­ened they will hap­pily join with the left and media to destroy them.

After all even a rank­ing mem­ber of the minor­ity has influ­ence enough to gain power & wealth for friends.

As Allah­Pun­dit puts it Dole & oth­ers in the GOP estab­lish­ment, you know those pols that Mr. Trump has bragged about buy­ing in the past, fig­ure, rightly or wrongly, that with Trump they can make a deal to keep their gravy train rolling.

In fair­ness to Dole, what he says about Trump being more will­ing to play ball with the Repub­li­can Con­gress is almost cer­tainly true. That’s the real rea­son to fear Trump as pres­i­dent if you’re a con­ser­v­a­tive — not that he’s going to do some­thing nutty but that, in order to fill his ide­o­log­i­cal void, he’s going to get rolled by Belt­way Repub­li­cans. Trump will be a softer touch for cen­trist GOP­ers like Dole as pres­i­dent, espe­cially given his cen­trist incli­na­tions, and Dole not only knows it, he prefers him because of it.

Sen­a­tor Dole’s inter­view sig­nals sev­eral things:

It’s a sig­nal to the Tea Party that the estab­lish­ment thinks Ted Cruz would finally end their gravy train and must be stopped at all costs.

It’s a sig­nal that if the estab­lish­ment wants to make a deal with Trump later to keep the good times rolling they had bet­ter get on board with him now when it would still mean something.

But most of all the Dole inter­view sig­nals this: Sen­a­tor Dole & the GOP estab­lish­ment aren’t afraid that if Ted Cruz, a young dynamic can­di­date who would be the first His­panic to head a major party ticket, is nom­i­nated the GOP would lose to Hillary Clin­ton and the democrats…

… they’re afraid he would win.

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I’ve spent the last three days toss­ing and turn­ing in bed on antibi­otics hop­ing to recover from a nasty painful infec­tion that has cost me three days pay. Given that fact I would really appre­ci­ate it if you con­sid­ered hit­ting DaTip­Jar to help me make up for it.




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I know you can get the MSM for noth­ing, but that’s pretty much what most of them are worth.

As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.

Sen Trent Lott (R-MS) 2010 on Tea Party members

Yesterday I noted that one of the biggest benefactors of Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Donald Trump was Tina Fey.

And commented that Palin’s endorsement helped reassure Tea Party members concerning the Donald.

Palin’s pro-life credentials are impeccable, her reputation as a conservative is strong on all of the issues that matter to a lot of conservatives Palin has walked the walk.

The fact that she is willing to put that behind Trump is going to reassure a lot of people who were not quite sold.  It gives Donald Trump the thing he needed the most.

Because the Tea Party voter has been taken for a ride more than once so there is nothing that helps Donald Trump (and hurts Ted Cruz) more than an endorsement that allays those fears.

Well to paraphrase a bit of scripture, the endorsement giveth, and the endorsement taketh away:

Bob Dole, the former Kansas senator and 1996 Republican presidential nominee, has never been fond of Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. But in an interview Wednesday, Mr. Dole said that the party would suffer “cataclysmic” and “wholesale losses” if Mr. Cruz were the nominee, and that Donald J. Trump would fare better.

Because nothing elicits trust from the Tea Party than the ultimate symbol of the establishment GOP, a man who is actually a Jeb Bush chair attacking Ted Cruz and pushing Donald Trump

“I question his allegiance to the party,” Mr. Dole said of Mr. Cruz. “I don’t know how often you’ve heard him say the word ‘Republican’ — not very often.” Instead, Mr. Cruz uses the word “conservative,” Mr. Dole said, before offering up a different word for Mr. Cruz: “extremist.”

Mind you this is the same guy who didn’t have an issue with the allegiance to the party of other senators as Stacy McCain once put it:

It’s not just that I remember all the recent backstabbing and sellouts by Mitch McConnell and his GOP Senate cronies, but I also remember the history of Republican Senate majorities under such paragons of conservative leadership as Bob Dole and Trent Lott. I remember how GOP leaders begged and groveled in their vain attempts to retain the “party loyalty” of such stalwarts of Republican principle as Jim Jeffords and Arlen Specter. And then I think one more time about that Mississippi primary, you see, and the way all these things keep adding up in my mind . . .

I don’t remember Dole questioning the loyalty of either Jeffords or Specter, do you.  Meanwhile Dole suggested an alternative to Ted Cruz.  Who was it?  Jeb Bush who he endorsed?  John Kasich whose backing by the NH GOP establishment seems to be finally paying off?  Marco Rubio or Chris Christie?

Nope

But Mr. Dole, 92, said he thought Mr. Trump could “probably work with Congress, because he’s, you know, he’s got the right personality and he’s kind of a deal-maker.”

The remarks by Mr. Dole reflect wider unease with Mr. Cruz among members of the Republican establishment, but few leading members of the party have been as candid and cutting.

Oddly Enough Senator Dole is making the same case that I did concerning Donald Trump vs Cruz back in October when nobody was making that argument:

If Ted Cruz is in the White House, the excuses for not defunding Obamacare, for not defunding Planned Parenthood and for defunding the Import Export bank suddenly disappear. The GOP establishment which doesn’t mind show votes against such items will find themselves facing the disagreeable prospect of these things actually happening….

…If Ted Cruz is willing to take on practically his entire caucus as the junior senator against a powerful Senate leader how much more willing will he be willing to do so with the bully pulpit & the power that comes with it in his hands?…

…Now contrast that worry with what the Establishment will had to deal with in a Trump administration. Picture a group of people appointed by a pragmatic deal maker and picture the establishment and even the left having to deal with Trump and his appointees, many of whom will be self-made and have absolutely no loyalty to the conservative electorate that said establishment loathes so much.

Then finally consider Trump himself, he prides himself as being person who is a great negotiator and dealmaker. The problem with a dealmaker is the key question: “What do you give up to make the deal?”

If you are an Establishment republican or even a democrat that question will console you.

Meanwhile Senator Dole’s interview also provides a line so comical that I suggest you put down any drink you might be holding before you read it:

“Cruz is in the Senate, so maybe he’s part of the establishment. You know, I’ve never really known what the establishment was.”

As the senator is unsure what the “GOP Establishment” means Allow me to remind the Senator.

The establishment were the people who happily took the committee chairs when conservatives showed up to give the GOP majorities in 1994, 2010 and 2014 but were damned if they were going to let the voters who gave them those chairs tell the what to do.  They were the guys who condemned the porkbustersPorkbusters movement (remember them) when they called on the GOP to control spending when they were in charge:

I’ll just say this about the so-called porkbusters. I’m getting damn tired of hearing from them. They have been nothing but trouble ever since Katrina. We in Mississippi have not asked for more than we deserve.

but became born again deficit hawks once their chairs were lost:

The establishment GOP was determined that these “porkbusters” had to be stopped…and then in 2006 they lost the congress.

Suddenly John Boehner was speaking against spending

What’s the word for that?  UNEXPECTEDLY

Like the term “NY Values” the voters know what the term “Establishment GOP” means  and Ted Cruz isn’t it, as I put it years ago:

Power is congress is based on the ability to grant favors. The reasons millions of dollars are spent on lobbyists is because the votes on the house & senate floor, the spending on the White House can make or break a business and pay rewards many times what the cost of their investment is.

It’s one thing for the Establishment to get Tea Party votes in a special election but it’s another thing if they actually manage to change the culture of Washington, suddenly the revolving door from congress to wealth closes and that they can’t abide

and a Guy like Ted Cruz who isn’t even willing to pander in Iowa on Ethanol is a threat to their entire way of life:

What’s the point of a chairmanship if you don’t have the power of the purse?

And it’s not just their fortune, there are the hangers-on, the campaign groups, the consultants, the writers a whole group of people who feed off of them. Do you think they will jump off the gravy train willingly?

That why the Establishment walks a fine line, they will campaign for tea party votes when it costs them little.  They will even give lip service to their candidates, but the moment that comfortable life is threatened they will happily join with the left and media to destroy them.

After all even a ranking member of the minority has influence enough to gain power & wealth for friends.

As AllahPundit puts it Dole & others in the GOP establishment, you know those pols that Mr. Trump has bragged about buying in the past, figure, rightly or wrongly, that with Trump they can make a deal to keep their gravy train rolling.

In fairness to Dole, what he says about Trump being more willing to play ball with the Republican Congress is almost certainly true. That’s the real reason to fear Trump as president if you’re a conservative — not that he’s going to do something nutty but that, in order to fill his ideological void, he’s going to get rolled by Beltway Republicans. Trump will be a softer touch for centrist GOPers like Dole as president, especially given his centrist inclinations, and Dole not only knows it, he prefers him because of it.

Senator Dole’s interview signals several things:

It’s a signal to the Tea Party that the establishment thinks Ted Cruz would finally end their gravy train and must be stopped at all costs.

It’s a signal that if the establishment wants to make a deal with Trump later to keep the good times rolling they had better get on board with him now when it would still mean something.

But most of all the Dole interview signals this:  Senator Dole & the GOP establishment aren’t afraid that if Ted Cruz, a young dynamic candidate who would be the first Hispanic to head a major party ticket,  is nominated the GOP would lose to Hillary Clinton and the democrats…

… they’re afraid he would win.

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I’ve spent the last three days tossing and turning in bed on antibiotics hoping to recover from a nasty painful infection that has cost me three days pay. Given that fact I would really appreciate it if you considered hitting DaTipJar to help me make up for it.




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