I guess I have my answer from UC Irvine

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I guess I have my answer from UC Irvine

On June 21st after hear­ing about the Col­lege Repub­li­cans were sus­pended at the UC Irvine I decided to send When the news that the Col­lege Repub­li­cans were sus­pended at the UC Irvine I wrote an email to the two advis­ers who the Col­lege Repub­li­cans met with just before the deci­sion was announced. I include said email in full:

Hello Ms. Esparza, Ms. Umali
I am prepar­ing a story on the sus­pen­sion of the UCI col­lege repub­li­cans at your uni­ver­sity fol­low­ing this piece at Bre​it​bart​.com http://​www​.bre​it​bart​.com/​m​i​l​o​/​2016​/​06​/​21​/​i​r​v​i​n​e​-​r​e​p​u​b​l​i​c​a​n​s​-​s​u​s​p​e​n​d​e​d​-​p​u​n​i​s​h​m​e​n​t​-​m​i​l​o​-​talk/ and I have sev­eral ques­tions I wish to ask con­cern­ing asser­tions in the piece.
The Bre­it­bart piece states that the col­lege repub­li­cans received noti­fi­ca­tion of their sus­pen­sion hours after a meet­ing with both of you.
1. Is this correct?
1a: Was the deci­sion to sus­pend the Col­lege Repub­li­cans taken before or after that meeting?
1b: If before why were not the col­lege repub­li­can informed at said meet­ing of their sus­pen­sion, if after what action took place at the meet­ing that prompted this suspension
The Bre­it­bart piece states the group was sus­pended for the: “group’s alleged fail­ure to pro­vide a cer­tifi­cate of insur­ance for the pri­vate secu­rity hired for the event to pro­tect Milo.”
2. Is this cor­rect, if not what was the ratio­nale for the suspension?
2a: If it IS cor­rect, have any other stu­dent group been sus­pended for fail­ure to pro­vide a cer­tifi­cate of insur­ance? If so can you list any sus­pended over the last five years for this?
2b: Is the neces­sity to pro­vide a cer­tifi­cate of insur­ance for pri­vate secu­rity an explicit rule, if so where is this rule listed, and have any groups who have failed to pro­vide such a cer­tifi­cate of insur­ance avoided suspension?
Dur­ing Mr. Yiannopou­los appear­ances nation­wide the dan­ger that has required addi­tional secu­rity has gen­er­ally come from on cam­pus stu­dents and orga­ni­za­tions threat­en­ing to dis­rupt events. Bre​it​bart​.com reported on such protests at UC Irvine
3. Did any such orga­ni­za­tion make such attempts and were they warned con­cern­ing secu­rity concerns?
3a: We’re such orga­ni­za­tions sanc­tioned for dis­rupt­ing said events or cre­at­ing an “unsafe envi­ron­ment” if not why not?
Many cam­pus’ have rules con­cern­ing cre­at­ing a “hos­tile envi­ron­ment” for stu­dents and employees
4. Does UC Irvine have any such regulations
4a. If so, given the neces­sity for increased secu­rity for Mr. Yiannopou­los have any of the stu­dent pro­test­ers been sanc­tioned for cre­at­ing an “hos­tile envi­ron­ment” for those try­ing to attend Mr. Yiannopou­los speech in gen­eral or mem­bers of the col­lege repub­li­cans for spon­sor­ing the event. If not why not?
The sus­pen­sion of a Stu­dent group is a sig­nif­i­cant event and pre­sum­ably rare event
5. Can you pro­vide a list of stu­dent groups that have been sus­pended over the last 5 years for any rea­sons and said rea­sons for those suspensions.
I hope to have my piece up by the end of the week so an answer by Thurs­day evening would be most wel­come. If you wish to include a state­ment con­cern­ing these events inde­pen­dent of these ques­tion I would be happy to include it in the piece.
Thank you for your time
Peter “DaT­e­chGuy” Ingemi
Dat​e​chguy​blog​.com
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I didn’t receive an answer but the ques­tion has become moot as per this Bre­it­bart report:

Col­lege Repub­li­cans at UCI

Dear Ms. Row­lands and the Autho­rized Sign­ers of the Col­lege Repub­li­cans at UCI,

I am con­tact­ing you on behalf of the Vice Chan­cel­lor for Stu­dent Affairs. As a follow-​up to my let­ter sent yes­ter­day, I want to share with you that the revo­ca­tion of your priv­i­leges to access space on cam­pus through UCI Stu­dent Cen­ter & Event Ser­vices has been with­drawn pend­ing the final out­come of your appeal. At this time, your abil­ity to access space on cam­pus has been restored.

As men­tioned in the June 22 let­ter, the vice chan­cel­lor invites you to sub­mit your appeal by July 1. We look for­ward to hear­ing from you.

Sin­cerely,

Edgar Dor­mi­to­rio

Chief of Staff
Stu­dent Affairs

The col­lege repub­li­cans have no inten­tion of enter­ing any “appeal” process which would give their ini­tial sus­pen­sion a sem­blance of legit­i­macy that it doesn’t deserve

The CRs, how­ever, quickly declined to enter any sort of appeals process, say­ing it could be con­strued an admis­sion of guilt, which they firmly deny.

“We will under no cir­cum­stances be sub­mit­ting an appeal for the deci­sion by UCI as that would be an admit­tance to a wrong­do­ing we did not com­mit,” the CRs wrote in a state­ment. “We will not be silenced and we will not be stopped.”

The most inter­est­ing, and encour­ag­ing part of the story was the reac­tion of other groups both inside and out­side the university:

Extra­or­di­nar­ily, even left-​wingers on cam­pus came out in sup­port of their rivals’ right to free speech. In a rare dis­play of bipar­ti­san unity at the cam­pus grass­roots, the group for Bernie Sanders sup­port­ers at UCI issued a state­ment con­demn­ing the admin­is­tra­tion for “repeated mis­treat­ment of polit­i­cal orga­ni­za­tions that take part in open dis­course on cam­pus” and call­ing for the restora­tion of the Col­lege Repub­li­cans’ right to access col­lege facilities.

It’s a great thing to see that some of the left are see­ing this for what it is.

I pre­dict that we will qui­etly see this entire “appeal” busi­ness dropped in the hope that all of this goes away.

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On June 21st after hearing about the College Republicans were suspended at the UC Irvine I decided to send When the news that the College Republicans were suspended at the UC Irvine I wrote an email to the two advisers who the College Republicans met with just before the decision was announced.  I include said email in full:

Hello Ms. Esparza, Ms. Umali
I am preparing a story on the suspension of the UCI college republicans at your university following this piece at Breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/21/irvine-republicans-suspended-punishment-milo-talk/ and I have several questions I wish to ask concerning assertions in the piece.
The Breitbart piece states that the college republicans received notification of their suspension hours after a meeting with both of you.
1.  Is this correct?
1a:  Was the decision to suspend the College Republicans taken before or after that meeting?
1b:  If before why were not the college republican informed at said meeting of their suspension, if after what action took place at the meeting that prompted this suspension
The Breitbart piece states the group was suspended for the:  “group’s alleged failure to provide a certificate of insurance for the private security hired for the event to protect Milo.”
2.  Is this correct, if not what was the rationale for the suspension?
2a:  If it IS correct, have any other student group been suspended for failure to provide a certificate of insurance?  If so can you list any suspended over the last five years for this?
2b:  Is the necessity to provide a certificate of insurance for private security an explicit rule, if so where is this rule listed, and have any groups who have failed to provide such a certificate of insurance avoided suspension?
During Mr. Yiannopoulos appearances nationwide the danger that has required additional security has generally come from on campus students and organizations threatening to disrupt events.  Breitbart.com reported on such protests at UC Irvine
3.  Did any such organization make such attempts and were they warned concerning security concerns?
3a:  We’re such organizations sanctioned for disrupting said events or creating an “unsafe environment” if not why not?
Many campus’ have rules concerning creating a “hostile environment” for students and employees
4.  Does UC Irvine have any such regulations
4a.  If so, given the necessity for increased security for Mr. Yiannopoulos have any of the student protesters been sanctioned for creating an “hostile environment” for those trying to attend Mr. Yiannopoulos speech in general or members of the college republicans for sponsoring the event.  If not why not?
The suspension of a Student group is a significant event and presumably rare event
5.  Can you provide a list of student groups that have been suspended over the last 5 years for any reasons and said reasons for those suspensions.
I hope to have my piece up by the end of the week so an answer by Thursday evening would be most welcome.  If you wish to include a statement concerning these events independent of these question I would be happy to include it in the piece.
Thank you for your time
Peter “DaTechGuy” Ingemi
Datechguyblog.com
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I didn’t receive an answer but the question has become moot as per this Breitbart report:

College Republicans at UCI

Dear Ms. Rowlands and the Authorized Signers of the College Republicans at UCI,

I am contacting you on behalf of the Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs. As a follow-up to my letter sent yesterday, I want to share with you that the revocation of your privileges to access space on campus through UCI Student Center & Event Services has been withdrawn pending the final outcome of your appeal. At this time, your ability to access space on campus has been restored.

As mentioned in the June 22 letter, the vice chancellor invites you to submit your appeal by July 1. We look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Edgar Dormitorio

Chief of Staff
Student Affairs

The college republicans have no intention of entering any “appeal” process which would give their initial suspension a semblance of legitimacy that it doesn’t deserve

The CRs, however, quickly declined to enter any sort of appeals process, saying it could be construed an admission of guilt, which they firmly deny.

“We will under no circumstances be submitting an appeal for the decision by UCI as that would be an admittance to a wrongdoing we did not commit,” the CRs wrote in a statement. “We will not be silenced and we will not be stopped.”

The most interesting, and encouraging part of the story was the reaction of other groups both inside and outside the university:

Extraordinarily, even left-wingers on campus came out in support of their rivals’ right to free speech. In a rare display of bipartisan unity at the campus grassroots, the group for Bernie Sanders supporters at UCI issued a statement condemning the administration for “repeated mistreatment of political organizations that take part in open discourse on campus” and calling for the restoration of the College Republicans’ right to access college facilities.

It’s a great thing to see that some of the left are seeing this for what it is.

I predict that we will quietly see this entire “appeal” business dropped in the hope that all of this goes away.

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