Clinton vs Trump Debate The Battle of the Caricatures

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Clinton vs Trump Debate The Battle of the Caricatures

I’m not going to get a chance to see the entire debate tonight because of work but here is what things are going to come down to one thing: Will the car­i­ca­tures of the two can­di­dates be con­firmed or refuted.

1. Trump: Is he crazy, is he presidential?

These two ques­tions are what the Amer­i­can peo­ple want the answer to. Hillary Clin­ton the media and the left (but I repeat myself) has been try­ing to sell Don­ald Trump as an uncon­trolled loon for the last year or so, com­pletely unprece­dented and unable to deal lead. That car­i­ca­ture took a huge hit thanks to his mex­i­can trip whose live feed com­pletely dis­ap­pointed the left has the Don­ald not only sounded strong but com­pe­tent. While this was no sur­prise to me as a per­son who is run­ning busi­ness on an inter­na­tional scale has to know how to deal with for­eign lead­ers this is totally con­trary to what the MSM has said.

The goal for Don­ald Trump there­fore is to appear pres­i­den­tial enough on TV to make a lie of this. I pre­dict that he will have very lit­tle trou­ble doing so due to his mas­sive TV experience.

2. Clin­ton: Is she cor­rupt, is she well?

There have been two memes with Hillary Clin­ton that has been out there, the first is cor­rup­tion, while the email scan­dal has not had legs with the MSM it HAS with vot­ers. Clin­ton needs to give answers that sug­gest there is no there there. This should actu­ally not be a hard thing to do as she has decades of expe­ri­ence dis­sem­bling before reporters, how­ever it is the view­ing audi­ence and not the press that she has to sell this too. My gut says she should be able to do this but the real ques­tion is, have her con­sul­tants prepped her for the press or the peo­ple? That will be the deter­min­ing factor.

The sec­ond fac­tor can’t be wargamed. Clinton’s health. I’m sure that Hillary has rested her­self to the max and her med­ical and makeup team will have put out full effort to make sure that she is in the best phys­i­cal shape pos­si­ble or tonight.

All that being said if she starts cough­ing, if she starts to fall, if any­thing hap­pens that says “unwell” that will be the final nail in the cof­fin for her. This is the over­rid­ing fac­tor above all else. Can she man­age to stand there for 90 min­utes with­out seem­ing ill?

I pre­dict she will man­age to do so but the real­ity is we have no idea on this. It is the wild card in this debate.

The Clin­ton advan­tage MSM: The biggest advan­tage for Hillary Clin­ton is the MSM. As long as Hillary Clin­ton doesn’t cough up a lung, start drool­ing on the stage or phys­i­cally col­lapse, the media will pro­nounce her well and declare her the vic­tor in tonight’s debate. It doesn’t mat­ter what she says or how she says it this is going to be the media nar­ra­tive that the press will be selling.

The Trump Advan­tage the audi­ence: It appears this is going to be one of the most watched debates in the his­tory of his­tory. A large amount of peo­ple who would not nor­mally bother will pol­i­tics will be drawn to it. Fur­ther­more I sus­pect most of those peo­ple will not be both­er­ing with much of the pre-​debate or post-​debate cov­er­age. This means that Trump will have an excel­lent change to make his case directly to the peo­ple, par­tic­u­larly those who will not be both­er­ing with the post-​debate spin. If he doesn’t com­mit an obvi­ous gaffe, and by gaffe I mean some­thing that nor­mal peo­ple, not the media, not the media, con­sider a gaffe. He will be fine.

My pre­dic­tion. Bar­ring a phys­i­cal col­lapse by Hillary, this debate is going to be pretty much a wash by nor­mal debate stan­dards. How­ever a wash in the debate is a win for Trump because the main ques­tion in the mind of peo­ple who don’t like Hillary is: Is Trump Qual­i­fied. If he passed that bar, he win…

…it should be pointed out that the MSM is going to declare Hillary the vic­tor in this debate (again bar­ring a phys­i­cal col­lapse) I wouldn’t be sur­prised if most of those sto­ries have already been writ­ten and just need the odd bit of space filled in. Howie Carr has nailed it:

What­ever hap­pens on Long Island, Hillary will imme­di­ately be declared the win­ner by 98 per­cent of the press. The head­lines are already writ­ten, the phony-​baloney polls and focus groups are ready to roll.

Hillary has to accom­plish only two feats in Hemp­stead. The first one is to get off a cou­ple of canned zingers for her ador­ing fans in social media to run with Tues­day morning.

What’s the over/​under on how many min­utes it will take her to say, “I’m a grand­mother”? Com­rade Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell will lap it up with a spoon. Oh, she so human­ized her­self, blah blah blah.

Hillary’s sec­ond task may prove more daunt­ing: She has to remain ver­ti­cal for 90 long min­utes, with no oxy­gen mask or iron lung up there on the stage.

Alas for the Clin­tons we live in an age where peo­ple will have already formed their opin­ions and shared them online long before the pun­dits are able to push these stories.

Update: Pow­er­Line reports they are get­ting pan­icked fundrais­ing requests and says

with a hun­dred mil­lion peo­ple set to tune in to tonight’s debate, the Democ­rats have even more to worry about: what if mil­lions of those view­ers don’t find Trump scary or dan­ger­ous, and they see no rea­son to con­sider him a “racist, sex­ist bigot”? If I were a Demo­c­rat, I’d be wor­ried too.

I’m enjoy­ing this much too much.


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I’m not going to get a chance to see the entire debate tonight because of work but here is what things are going to come down to one thing: Will the caricatures of the two candidates be confirmed or refuted.

1. Trump: Is he crazy, is he presidential?

These two questions are what the American people want the answer to. Hillary Clinton the media and the left (but I repeat myself) has been trying to sell Donald Trump as an uncontrolled loon for the last year or so, completely unprecedented and unable to deal lead. That caricature took a huge hit thanks to his mexican trip whose live feed completely disappointed the left has the Donald not only sounded strong but competent. While this was no surprise to me as a person who is running business on an international scale has to know how to deal with foreign leaders this is totally contrary to what the MSM has said.

The goal for Donald Trump therefore is to appear presidential enough on TV to make a lie of this. I predict that he will have very little trouble doing so due to his massive TV experience.

2. Clinton: Is she corrupt, is she well?

There have been two memes with Hillary Clinton that has been out there, the first is corruption, while the email scandal has not had legs with the MSM it HAS with voters. Clinton needs to give answers that suggest there is no there there. This should actually not be a hard thing to do as she has decades of experience dissembling before reporters, however it is the viewing audience and not the press that she has to sell this too. My gut says she should be able to do this but the real question is, have her consultants prepped her for the press or the people? That will be the determining factor.

The second factor can’t be wargamed. Clinton’s health. I’m sure that Hillary has rested herself to the max and her medical and makeup team will have put out full effort to make sure that she is in the best physical shape possible or tonight.

All that being said if she starts coughing, if she starts to fall, if anything happens that says “unwell” that will be the final nail in the coffin for her. This is the overriding factor above all else. Can she manage to stand there for 90 minutes without seeming ill?

I predict she will manage to do so but the reality is we have no idea on this. It is the wild card in this debate.

The Clinton advantage MSM: The biggest advantage for Hillary Clinton is the MSM. As long as Hillary Clinton doesn’t cough up a lung, start drooling on the stage or physically collapse, the media will pronounce her well and declare her the victor in tonight’s debate. It doesn’t matter what she says or how she says it this is going to be the media narrative that the press will be selling.

The Trump Advantage the audience: It appears this is going to be one of the most watched debates in the history of history. A large amount of people who would not normally bother will politics will be drawn to it. Furthermore I suspect most of those people will not be bothering with much of the pre-debate or post-debate coverage. This means that Trump will have an excellent change to make his case directly to the people, particularly those who will not be bothering with the post-debate spin. If he doesn’t commit an obvious gaffe, and by gaffe I mean something that normal people, not the media, not the media, consider a gaffe. He will be fine.

My prediction. Barring a physical collapse by Hillary, this debate is going to be pretty much a wash by normal debate standards. However a wash in the debate is a win for Trump because the main question in the mind of people who don’t like Hillary is: Is Trump Qualified. If he passed that bar, he win…

…it should be pointed out that the MSM is going to declare Hillary the victor in this debate (again barring a physical collapse) I wouldn’t be surprised if most of those stories have already been written and just need the odd bit of space filled in. Howie Carr has nailed it:

Whatever happens on Long Island, Hillary will immediately be declared the winner by 98 percent of the press. The headlines are already written, the phony-baloney polls and focus groups are ready to roll.

Hillary has to accomplish only two feats in Hempstead. The first one is to get off a couple of canned zingers for her adoring fans in social media to run with Tuesday morning.

What’s the over/under on how many minutes it will take her to say, “I’m a grandmother”? Comrade Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell will lap it up with a spoon. Oh, she so humanized herself, blah blah blah.

Hillary’s second task may prove more daunting: She has to remain vertical for 90 long minutes, with no oxygen mask or iron lung up there on the stage.

Alas for the Clintons we live in an age where people will have already formed their opinions and shared them online long before the pundits are able to push these stories.

Update: PowerLine reports they are getting panicked fundraising requests and says

with a hundred million people set to tune in to tonight’s debate, the Democrats have even more to worry about: what if millions of those viewers don’t find Trump scary or dangerous, and they see no reason to consider him a “racist, sexist bigot”? If I were a Democrat, I’d be worried too.

I’m enjoying this much too much.


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