Another Debate “Win” or two like that for Hillary & she’s finished

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Another Debate "Win" or two like that for Hillary & she's finished

I wish we could sell them another hill at the same price

Gen Nathanael Greene on the British “vic­tory” at Bunker Hill

As pre­dicted yes­ter­day the MSM in cheer­ing Hillary Clin­ton in uni­son as the win­ner of yesterday’s debate, and if this was a col­lege debate scored by instruc­tors you might be able to make that case.

Hillary sounded every bit the pol­icy wonk and expe­ri­enced pol who had been doing this for years and the media is giv­ing her high marks for doing so.

Unfor­tu­nately that isn’t the mea­sure that will win her the election.

The only sense that Hillary man­aged to help her­self was by not cough­ing and not falling over. This makes it less likely that she will be replaced by another candidate.

In every other sense, Trump won this debate.

The pri­mary goal of Don­ald Trump was to con­vince vot­ers who don’t like Hillary but are afraid of him due to the Hillary/​MSM attacks is that he is a cred­i­ble can­di­date and is not crazy.

He did that very well, he brought up legit con­cerns that peo­ple can relate to (jobs leav­ing the coun­try), Issues that are cur­rent and on the mind of vot­ers (Law and Order on the streets) Suc­cess­fully brought up points that make Hillary look Cor­rupt (the 5th amend­ment), Turned the Tax ques­tion into an email ques­tion (the one time Holt was forced to con­front Hillary) man­aged to flank her on Black Amer­ica (what has the party done for you?) and most impor­tantly reminded peo­ple over and over again that Hillary has had 30 years to solve prob­lems and hasn’t done so.

Most impor­tantly he did so in a way that spoke not to polit­i­cal junkies like me, or pol­icy wonks in DC or the polit­i­cal media but to the pub­lic who nor­mally doesn’t pay atten­tion. Hillary talked over the gen­eral pop­u­lace, Trump talked TO them.

After see­ing that debate if you didn’t like Hillary but was afraid of Don­ald Trump you were either no longer afraid or less afraid.

In fact even the health result help Trump, a switch on the Ticket can only help Democ­rats, by look­ing healthy enough to go on Hillary insures her place on the ticket which will help solid­ify Trump lead.

As for Lester Holt, he wasn’t Candy Crow­ley biased but had the stan­dard Bias of omis­sion not bring­ing up issues that were weak for Hillary Clin­ton, on the plus side he let the two of them go at it a lot and I think that was a pos­i­tive as it high­lighted the actual dif­fer­ences between the can­di­date which is what such a debate should do. Yeah he was biased but I’ve seen so much worse I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

Put sim­ply Hillary Clin­ton won this debate in the same way that the British won the bat­tle of Bunker Hill and if she doesn’t under­stand it today next week when she is still down she sure will.

Update: Stacy McCain gets it

Ross Douthat makes some apt crit­i­cism of Trump’s debate per­for­mance, but it’s not Harvard-​educated pun­dits who are Trump’s core con­stituency. This is one of the basic prob­lems with polit­i­cal pun­ditry: Highly edu­cated (and highly ide­o­log­i­cal) com­men­ta­tors have dif­fi­culty imag­in­ing how things look to the aver­age voter in Ohio or Florida. Remem­ber how the Bernie Sanders boom dur­ing the Demo­c­rat pri­maries caught much of the jour­nal­is­tic world by sur­prise, in much the same way that Trump’s suc­cess in the GOP pri­maries shocked pro­fes­sional pun­dits on the Right.


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I wish we could sell them another hill at the same price

Gen Nathanael Greene on the British “victory” at Bunker Hill

As predicted yesterday the MSM in cheering Hillary Clinton in unison as the winner of yesterday’s debate, and if this was a college debate scored by instructors you might be able to make that case.

Hillary sounded every bit the policy wonk and experienced pol who had been doing this for years and the media is giving her high marks for doing so.

Unfortunately that isn’t the measure that will win her the election.

The only sense that Hillary managed to help herself was by not coughing and not falling over.  This makes it less likely that she will be replaced by another candidate.

In every other sense, Trump won this debate.

The primary goal of Donald Trump was to convince voters who don’t like Hillary but are afraid of him due to the Hillary/MSM attacks is that he is a credible candidate and is not crazy.

He did that very well, he brought up legit concerns that people can relate to (jobs leaving the country), Issues that are current and on the mind of voters (Law and Order on the streets)  Successfully brought up points that make Hillary look Corrupt (the 5th amendment),  Turned the Tax question into an email question (the one time Holt was forced to confront Hillary) managed to flank her on Black America (what has the party done for you?) and most importantly reminded people over and over again that Hillary has had 30 years to solve problems and hasn’t done so.

Most importantly he did so in a way that spoke not to political junkies like me, or policy wonks in DC or the political media but to the public who normally doesn’t pay attention.  Hillary talked over the general populace, Trump talked TO them.

After seeing that debate if you didn’t like Hillary but was afraid of Donald Trump you were either no longer afraid or less afraid.

In fact even the health result help Trump, a switch on the Ticket can only help Democrats, by looking healthy enough to go on Hillary insures her place on the ticket which will help solidify Trump lead.

As for Lester Holt, he wasn’t Candy Crowley biased but had the standard Bias of omission not bringing up issues that were weak for Hillary Clinton, on the plus side he let the two of them go at it a lot and I think that was a positive as it highlighted the actual differences between the candidate which is what such a debate should do.  Yeah he was biased but I’ve seen so much worse I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

Put simply Hillary Clinton won this debate in the same way that the British won the battle of Bunker Hill and if she doesn’t understand it today next week when she is still down she sure will.

Update: Stacy McCain gets it

Ross Douthat makes some apt criticism of Trump’s debate performance, but it’s not Harvard-educated pundits who are Trump’s core constituency. This is one of the basic problems with political punditry: Highly educated (and highly ideological) commentators have difficulty imagining how things look to the average voter in Ohio or Florida. Remember how the Bernie Sanders boom during the Democrat primaries caught much of the journalistic world by surprise, in much the same way that Trump’s success in the GOP primaries shocked professional pundits on the Right.


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