C. S. Lewis and the 4th Doctor answer friend J. D. Rucker on Voting Trump

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C. S. Lewis and the 4th Doctor answer friend J. D. Rucker on Voting Trump

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Dominic You: We need no friends, and fear no enemy!x
British Cap­tain: I may have been mis­in­formed. I under­stood Mr. LaFitte com­manded at Barataria.
Jean LaFitte: If your offer is good it will stand up under fire

The Buc­ca­neer 1958

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the con­ser­v­a­tive party, like NY state), is NOW, after a his­toric elec­tion that demon­strated the inept­ness of the “Wiz­ards of Smart”.

The time NOT to talk about and vote for a third part can­di­date, or stay home and pout about rules that work against you is DUR­ING an his­toric elec­tion, when one of the evils is immea­sur­ably worse than the guy you can’t quite warm to.

Mike Rogers of Gran­ite Grok

To a per­son com­pletely unfa­mil­iar with the blog, yesterday’s post by JD Rucker might cause some con­fu­sion as his state­ment con­cern­ing the elec­tion con­tra­dicts my own from by Dou­ble Down Trump post. Let me begin by inform­ing such peo­ple that my writ­ers are informed up front that with these exceptions:

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  2. They may NOT advo­cate or enable Rad­i­cal Islam
  3. They may NOT attack (Ie: The Catholic faith and church is evil and must be destroyed) although they may cri­tique (Ie: Here is my prob­lem with Bishop’s X or Pope x posi­tion or action or here is why I dis­agree with this Catholic doc­trine) the Catholic Faith.
  4. They may not vio­late the law & get me sued (It’s my pre­rog­a­tive not theirs to choose to take that risk)

When peo­ple are accepted as writ­ers here, they may write what they wish on the sub­ject that they wish and say what they think with no thought or fear that if I dis­agree with it I will cen­sor it, after all, this isn’t Twit­ter.

But while I agree with JD’s piece in many respects, par­tic­u­larly in terms of what we should do post elec­tion his argu­ment against vot­ing Trump in this elec­tion is not plau­si­ble because wild spec­u­la­tion not with­stand­ing the truth is this:

Bar­ing sud­den death either Don­ald Trump or Hillary Clin­ton will be the next pres­i­dent of the United States

For a con­ser­v­a­tive to come to the deci­sion to either vote 3rd party or to leave the bal­lot blank under the the­ory: “Don­ald Trump is unfit there­fore I shall not sup­port him even if it means a Hillary Clin­ton vic­tory” strikes me as the argu­ment of Code Pink vs fight­ing ISIS or a British Paci­fist dur­ing World War 2. “War is evil and I won’t aid it”.

And to that argu­ment CS Lewis gave an excel­lent answer

for those who are unwill­ing to sit through the entire CS Lewis doo­dle (which I’ve been look­ing for an excuse to show you for weeks) let me get to the nitty gritty quote.

In the lib­eral soci­ety the num­ber of paci­fists will either be large enough to crip­ple the state as a bel­liger­ent or not. If not you have done noth­ing, if it is large enough, then you have handed over the state which does tol­er­ate paci­fism over to its total­i­tar­ian neigh­bor who does not. Paci­fism of this kind is tak­ing a straight road to a world where there is no pacifism.

Or put sim­ply, all stay­ing home or vot­ing 3rd party does to a con­ser­v­a­tive is to enable some­one who wants to destroy you and give them the weapons to do so. Con­ser­vatism of this kind is tak­ing a straight road to a coun­try where con­ser­vatism is not allowed.

Now you might say, “But DaT­e­chGuy, I believe Don­ald Trump is unfit and my per­sonal honor does not allow such a vote?”

Well that answer comes from this exchange between the 4th Doc­tor and a man named Tremas in the episode the Keeper of Traken. Let me set the scene. A pow­er­ful device which gives a per­son lit­er­ally power over a series of plan­ets is about to be taken over by an evil malev­o­lent force. Hav­ing escaped tem­porar­ily from its clutches the Doc­tor and his party find their way to Tremas’ quar­ters where he is look­ing for a way to stop him.

4th Doc­tor: Well, the new régime seems to be mak­ing rather a mess of things. Tremas. Tremas.
Tremas: Huh?
4th Doc­tor: Blue­prints. Mas­ter plans. Do you hap­pen to keep them here?
Tremas: What plans in par­tic­u­lar?
4th Doc­tor: Well, the mas­ter plans to the Source manip­u­la­tor, of course.
Tremas: Yes, in the atmos­phere safe. The secrecy of the Source manip­u­la­tor is a sacred trust.
4th Doc­tor: Tremas, we must stop Kas­sia becom­ing the Keeper, and for that we need the mas­ter plans.
Tremas: But I swore an oath, Doc­tor.
4th Doc­tor: Well of course you swore an oath! Now you have to choose. Your per­sonal hon­our against the safety of the whole of Traken.
Nyssa: Yes, father.
Tremas: I can’t, Doc­tor.
4th Doc­tor: Well, that’s fine. That’s fine, Tremas. I mean, when this thing has taken over the entire Source you’ll have the con­so­la­tion of know­ing that you kept your hon­our intact.

As a vote for Trump is not aid­ing and abet­ting mor­tal sin (thus vio­lat­ing the pri­mary duty of a Chris­t­ian to God) the sit­u­a­tion and the deci­sion here is iden­ti­cal to the Doc­tor and Tremas.

I sub­mit and sug­gest that when Hillary Clin­ton and those who enabled her flout­ing of fed­eral law have been given power, when the IRS is again used as a tool to dis­able con­ser­v­a­tives, when the full power of the fed­eral gov­ern­ment is used to either silence Chris­tians, and/​or force them to choose between their souls and their abil­ity to func­tion in pub­lic places or busi­ness, when the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood is enabled and Amer­ica con­tin­ues its retreat from the world and when the supreme court is packed to make sure that even if a Ted Cruz or a Scott Walker should be elected in 2020 their attempts to reverse these actions will be ruled uncon­sti­tu­tional, those who have decided to stay home and allowed all this to hap­pen will have the con­so­la­tion of know­ing that they kept their per­sonal honor intact.

I’d say that price is too high.

FYI 1: If you enjoyed the first part of that CS Lewis doo­dle on “Why I am not a paci­fist I embed part 2 here for you.

FYI 2: In case you’re won­der­ing the exchange between Tremas and the Doc­tor ends, like this.

[Tremas goes to a blank piece of wall, puts his hand through and removes a scroll.]
Tremas: The orig­i­nal design of the Source manip­u­la­tor. The means that gave power to our Keep­ers.
4th Doc­tor: Good.

FYI 3: (minor Doc­tor Who spoiler alert) Some Doc­tor Who fans might won­der if my invok­ing of the episode of Traken means I’m com­par­ing Hillary Clin­ton to the Mas­ter either in his ema­ci­ated decay­ing state from that episode or the cur­rent regen­er­a­tion as Missy who is just as evil and mur­der­ous. That is cer­tainly not the case.

The Master/​Missy evil wholly fic­tional char­ac­ter while Hillary Clin­ton is an awful ter­ri­ble fact.


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Dominic You: We need no friends, and fear no enemy!x
British Captain: I may have been misinformed. I understood Mr. LaFitte commanded at Barataria.
Jean LaFitte: If your offer is good it will stand up under fire

The Buccaneer 1958

The time to take over the GOP (state by state) or set up a real third party (let’s call it the conservative party, like NY state), is NOW, after a historic election that demonstrated the ineptness of the “Wizards of Smart”.

The time NOT to talk about and vote for a third part candidate, or stay home and pout about rules that work against you is DURING an historic election, when one of the evils is immeasurably worse than the guy you can’t quite warm to.

Mike Rogers of Granite Grok

To a person completely unfamiliar with the blog, yesterday’s post by JD Rucker might cause some confusion as his statement concerning the election contradicts my own from by Double Down Trump post. Let me begin by informing such people that my writers are informed up front that with these exceptions:

  1. They may NOT advocate or enable Abortion
  2. They may NOT advocate or enable Radical Islam
  3. They may NOT attack (Ie: The Catholic faith and church is evil and must be destroyed) although they may critique (Ie: Here is my problem with Bishop’s X or Pope x position or action or here is why I disagree with this Catholic doctrine) the Catholic Faith.
  4.  They may not violate the law & get me sued (It’s my prerogative not theirs to choose to take that risk)

When people are accepted as writers here, they may write what they wish on the subject that they wish and say what they think with no thought or fear that if I disagree with it I will censor it,  after all, this isn’t Twitter.

But while I agree with JD’s piece in many respects, particularly in terms of what we should do post election his argument against voting Trump in this election is not plausible because wild speculation not withstanding the truth is this:

 Baring sudden death either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States

For a conservative to come to the decision to either vote 3rd party or to leave the ballot blank under the theory:  “Donald Trump is unfit therefore I shall not support him even if it means a Hillary Clinton victory” strikes me as the argument of Code Pink vs fighting ISIS or a British Pacifist during World War 2.  “War is evil and I won’t aid it”.

And to that argument CS Lewis gave an excellent answer

for those who are unwilling to sit through the entire CS Lewis doodle (which I’ve been looking for an excuse to show you for weeks) let me get to the nitty gritty quote.

In the liberal society the number of pacifists will either be large enough to cripple the state as a belligerent or not.  If not you have done nothing, if it is large enough, then you have handed over the state which does tolerate pacifism over to its totalitarian neighbor who does not.  Pacifism of this kind is taking a straight road to a world where there is no pacifism.

Or put simply, all staying home or voting 3rd party does to a conservative is to enable someone who wants to destroy you and give them the weapons to do so.  Conservatism of this kind is taking a straight road to a country where conservatism is not allowed.

Now you might say, “But DaTechGuy, I believe Donald Trump is unfit and my personal honor does not allow such a vote?”

Well that answer comes from this exchange between the 4th Doctor and a man named Tremas in the episode the Keeper of Traken.   Let me set the scene.  A powerful device which gives a person literally power over a series of planets is about to be taken over by an evil malevolent force.  Having escaped temporarily from its clutches the Doctor and his party find their way to Tremas’ quarters where he is looking for a way to stop him.

4th Doctor: Well, the new regime seems to be making rather a mess of things. Tremas. Tremas.
Tremas: Huh?
4th Doctor: Blueprints. Master plans. Do you happen to keep them here?
Tremas: What plans in particular?
4th Doctor: Well, the master plans to the Source manipulator, of course.
Tremas: Yes, in the atmosphere safe. The secrecy of the Source manipulator is a sacred trust.
4th Doctor:  Tremas, we must stop Kassia becoming the Keeper, and for that we need the master plans.
Tremas: But I swore an oath, Doctor.
4th Doctor:  Well of course you swore an oath! Now you have to choose. Your personal honour against the safety of the whole of Traken.
Nyssa: Yes, father.
Tremas:   I can’t, Doctor.
4th Doctor: Well, that’s fine. That’s fine, Tremas. I mean, when this thing has taken over the entire Source you’ll have the consolation of knowing that you kept your honour intact.

As a vote for Trump is not aiding and abetting mortal sin (thus violating the primary duty of a Christian to God) the situation and the decision here is identical to the Doctor and Tremas.

I submit and suggest that when Hillary Clinton and those who enabled her flouting of federal law have been given power, when the IRS is again used as a tool to disable conservatives, when the full power of the federal government is used to either silence Christians, and/or force them to choose between their souls and their ability to function in public places or business, when the Muslim Brotherhood is enabled and America continues its retreat from the world and when the supreme court is packed to make sure that even if a Ted Cruz or a Scott Walker should be elected in 2020 their attempts to reverse these actions will be ruled unconstitutional,  those who have decided to stay home and allowed all this to happen will have the consolation of knowing that they kept their personal honor intact.

I’d say that price is too high.

FYI 1:  If you enjoyed the first part of that CS Lewis doodle on “Why I am not a pacifist I embed part 2 here for you.

FYI 2: In case you’re wondering the exchange between Tremas and the Doctor ends, like this.

[Tremas goes to a blank piece of wall, puts his hand through and removes a scroll.]
Tremas: The original design of the Source manipulator. The means that gave power to our Keepers.
4th Doctor: Good.

FYI 3: (minor Doctor Who spoiler alert) Some Doctor Who fans might wonder if my invoking of the episode of Traken means I’m comparing Hillary Clinton to the Master either in his emaciated decaying state from that episode or the current regeneration as Missy who is just as evil and murderous. That is certainly not the case.

The Master/Missy evil wholly fictional character while Hillary Clinton is an awful terrible fact.


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