Answering Speech with More and More Speech, Liberals Performers Hardest Hit

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Answering Speech with More and More Speech, Liberals Performers Hardest Hit

Jesus Christ:For the mea­sure with which you mea­sure will in return be mea­sured out to you.”

Luke 6:38b

I’m a big fan of two things that occa­sion­ally conflict.

I like being polite to peo­ple. I think polite­ness is an exten­sion of human dig­nity, when you are polite to peo­ple, you are by the nature of the act express­ing the value of a human per­son. I think that a per­son who can be polite in the face of inci­vil­ity shows a strength

I like free speech, it is vital for a free soci­ety, for sci­ence and for cul­ture to advance, if you can’t speak freely you can’t sort, truth from false­hood, nor can you test the­o­ries and ideas that may or may not work.

Some­times in life it is nec­es­sary to vio­late polite­ness for the sake of free speech, that is usu­ally in a sit­u­a­tion where one’s abil­ity to speak and get one’s opin­ion out, is restricted.

The Cast of the broad­way play Hamil­ton decid­ing to pub­licly lec­ture the vice pres­i­dent elect as he attended their show was not one of them:

The state­ment that Mr. Dixon read was writ­ten by the show’s cre­ator, Lin-​Manuel Miranda, its direc­tor, Thomas Kail, and the lead pro­ducer, Jef­frey Seller, with input from cast mem­bers, Mr. Seller said.

“We had to ask our­selves, how do we cope with this?” Mr. Seller said. “Our cast could barely go on stage the day after the elec­tion. The elec­tion was painful and crush­ing to all of us here. We all strug­gled with what was the appro­pri­ate and respect­ful and proper response. We are hon­ored that Mr. Pence attended the show, and we had to use this oppor­tu­nity to express our feelings.”

Mr. Seller said that there was some dis­cus­sion about whether it was appro­pri­ate to inject a polit­i­cal state­ment into the night, and that those involved decided to wait until the end of the performance.

There’s plenty to be offended by here but on the scale of left-​wing obnox­ious­ness I’d say this scores about a 6 (out of 10). On one hand the mes­sage pre­sumes that the incom­ing admin­is­tra­tion is a threat to pretty much every­one and every­thing, which is just obnox­ious. And the bit about hop­ing Pence was inspired by the show pre­sumes that, with­out that inspi­ra­tion, he’s hope­less. Also, mak­ing this state­ment pub­lic— rather than, say, send­ing Pence a note from the cast pri­vately— seems more about pos­tur­ing for the cam­eras than com­mu­ni­ca­tion. There’s no dia­log pos­si­ble here. It’s not as if Pence could respond or do any­thing but politely hear them out. This is the kind of national dis­cus­sion the left loves: the kind where they talk and you listen.

The show Hamil­ton is one of the most pop­u­lar ones on Broad­way, the cast has a very plat­form and easy access to media, par­tic­u­larly in NYC who would like noth­ing more than to hear them pub­licly hit the incom­ing admin­is­tra­tion. The cast of Hamil­ton could have achieved the same effect by hav­ing mak­ing their state­ment in an open let­ter that I’m sure the NYT would have gladly pub­lished and the MSM end­lessly repeated. Given that fact the neces­sity to vio­late the bounds of pro­pri­ety by chal­lenge a pay­ing cus­tomer would seem rather pointless.

The media was delighted by this expres­sion of free speech by the cast, how­ever they weren’t all that delighted with the response of the pres­i­dent elect who stood by his vice president’s pre­sumed right to enjoy a show with his wife with­out being directly lec­tured by the cast

Imag­ine that, answer­ing speech one finds offen­sive with, wait for it…MORE speech.

The left was not amused at the pres­i­dent elect assert­ing the same 1st amend­ment rights that non mem­bers of the GOP have, par­tic­u­larly when he can reach 15 mil­lion plus peo­ple on twit­ter. Robert Reich’s reac­tion was typical

And those cham­pi­ons of free speech at the ACLU didn’t care for Don­ald Trump exer­cis­ing his

Given that fact I’m sure the ACLU, Pro­fes­sor Reich and the entire cast of Hamil­ton were delighted by these cit­i­zens law­fully exe­cut­ing their con­sti­tu­tional rights

What our friends on the left might have for­got­ten is while they are the vast major­ity of the eight mil­lion plus peo­ple in the city, even if only one in ten sup­ported Trump and only one in 100 of that one in ten are up to flash mob­bing Broad­way that makes a poten­tial 8000 peo­ple avail­able for flash mobs avail­able to make the expe­ri­ence of those con­sid­er­ing attend­ing a broad­way show a bit more inter­est­ing. As reporter Kerry Picket put it:

I’m sure our friends on the left will be absolutely delighted with this new stan­dard of behav­ior which if applied nation­wide to per­for­mances by lib­eral actors, musi­cians and come­di­ans is sure to make the deci­sion process for those con­sid­er­ing atten­dance a more inter­est­ing one.

May they be happy with the incen­tive struc­ture they have created.


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Jesus Christ: “For the measure with which you measure will in return be measured out to you.”

Luke 6:38b

I’m a big fan of two things that occasionally conflict.

I like being polite to people. I think politeness is an extension of human dignity, when you are polite to people, you are by the nature of the act expressing the value of a human person. I think that a person who can be polite in the face of incivility shows a strength

I like free speech, it is vital for a free society, for science and for culture to advance, if you can’t speak freely you can’t sort, truth from falsehood, nor can you test theories and ideas that may or may not work.

Sometimes in life it is necessary to violate politeness for the sake of free speech, that is usually in a situation where one’s ability to speak and get one’s opinion out, is restricted.

The Cast of the broadway play Hamilton deciding to publicly lecture the vice president elect as he attended their show was not one of them:

The statement that Mr. Dixon read was written by the show’s creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda, its director, Thomas Kail, and the lead producer, Jeffrey Seller, with input from cast members, Mr. Seller said.

“We had to ask ourselves, how do we cope with this?” Mr. Seller said. “Our cast could barely go on stage the day after the election. The election was painful and crushing to all of us here. We all struggled with what was the appropriate and respectful and proper response. We are honored that Mr. Pence attended the show, and we had to use this opportunity to express our feelings.”

Mr. Seller said that there was some discussion about whether it was appropriate to inject a political statement into the night, and that those involved decided to wait until the end of the performance.

There’s plenty to be offended by here but on the scale of left-wing obnoxiousness I’d say this scores about a 6 (out of 10). On one hand the message presumes that the incoming administration is a threat to pretty much everyone and everything, which is just obnoxious. And the bit about hoping Pence was inspired by the show presumes that, without that inspiration, he’s hopeless. Also, making this statement public— rather than, say, sending Pence a note from the cast privately— seems more about posturing for the cameras than communication. There’s no dialog possible here. It’s not as if Pence could respond or do anything but politely hear them out. This is the kind of national discussion the left loves: the kind where they talk and you listen.

The show Hamilton is one of the most popular ones on Broadway, the cast has a very platform and easy access to media, particularly in NYC who would like nothing more than to hear them publicly hit the incoming administration. The cast of Hamilton could have achieved the same effect by having making their statement in an open letter that I’m sure the NYT would have gladly published and the MSM endlessly repeated. Given that fact the necessity to violate the bounds of propriety by challenge a paying customer would seem rather pointless.

The media was delighted by this expression of free speech by the cast, however they weren’t all that delighted with the response of the president elect who stood by his vice president’s presumed right to enjoy a show with his wife without being directly lectured by the cast

Imagine that, answering speech one finds offensive with, wait for it…MORE speech.

The left was not amused at the president elect asserting the same 1st amendment rights that non members of the GOP have, particularly when he can reach 15 million plus people on twitter. Robert Reich’s reaction was typical

And those champions of free speech at the ACLU didn’t care for Donald Trump exercising his

Given that fact I’m sure the ACLU, Professor Reich and the entire cast of Hamilton were delighted by these citizens lawfully executing their constitutional rights

What our friends on the left might have forgotten is while they are the vast majority of the eight million plus people in the city, even if only one in ten supported Trump and only one in 100 of that one in ten are up to flash mobbing Broadway that makes a potential 8000 people available for flash mobs available to make the experience of those considering attending a broadway show a bit more interesting. As reporter Kerry Picket put it:

I’m sure our friends on the left will be absolutely delighted with this new standard of behavior which if applied nationwide to performances by liberal actors, musicians and comedians is sure to make the decision process for those considering attendance a more interesting one.

May they be happy with the incentive structure they have created.


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