Missing the Ledes on the Montreal “Anti Semitic Imam” story Lede one: Canada’s Muslims tardy Outrage

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Missing the Ledes on the Montreal "Anti Semitic Imam" story Lede one: Canada's Muslims tardy Outrage

To those who like to argue that Islam is a reli­gion of piece and those who wish to sup­port ter­ror and or kill Jews sim­ply because they are Jews, this story out of Canada reported by CBC news:

Imam call­ing for Jews to be killed in ser­mon at Mon­tréal mosque draws police complaint

Larger Mus­lim com­mu­nity wants apol­ogy from mosque and won­ders why con­tro­ver­sial imam was invited to preach

and at the Daily Mail

Out­rage as Jor­dan­ian imam ‘recites anti-​Semitic reli­gious verse call­ing for Jew­ish peo­ple to be killed’ dur­ing ser­mon at Mon­tréal mosque

  • A Jew­ish advo­cacy group filed a com­plaint Mon­day in Mon­tréal, Canada
  • Spoke out against a ser­mon given by Sheikh Muham­mad bin Musa Al Nasr
  • Jor­dan­ian cleric is believed to have been invited as a guest to the mosque
  • Quoted a verse that says: ‘O Mus­lim, O ser­vant of Allah, O Mus­lim, O ser­vant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him’
  • The larger Mus­lim com­mu­nity has con­demned the use of the verse and urged the mosque to apologize

But in the rush to con­grat­u­late the larger Cana­dian Mus­lim com­mu­nity on demon­strat­ing their out­rage and tol­er­ance them­selves on show­ing how tol­er­ant the media report­ing this story are miss­ing two impor­tant points. Today let’s deal with the first one:

Where was the out­rage of Mus­lims WHEN IT HAPPENED?

The CBC story states

The ser­mon took place at the Dar Al-​Arqam Mosque in the city’s Saint-​Michel neigh­bour­hood on Dec. 23, 2016.

That means this imam spoke three months ago to a crowd of lis­ten­ers at a Mosque in Canada. If you look at the lis­ten­ers in the video, did you see peo­ple object­ing? Did you see peo­ple com­plain­ing, did you see any­one rais­ing a hand in dis­sent or even look­ing uncom­fort­able? Did any of them run to the News­pa­pers or even send them a let­ter say­ing how out­raged they were over the event?

Nope.

Fur­ther­more note what follows

The video was posted to the mosque’s YouTube chan­nel three days later.

So since Decem­ber 26th this video has been out there in plain sight (at least until this report, I wasn’t able to find it myself) and for some rea­son nei­ther the folks at the Mosque nor any other Cana­dian Mus­lim who hap­pened to watch the video dur­ing that time was all that out­raged, Nor did any of the Mus­lims who viewed it, even if they might have agreed with it, think to say to the folks at the Mosque in ques­tion: “You know you might want to take that down as it doesn’t reflect well on us.”

Why, I sub­mit and sug­gest because Canada’s Mus­lim com­mu­nity didn’t have a prob­lem with it until it became known to non-​Muslims and was plas­tered all over the web so every non-​Muslim out there could see Islam preached as it is, by an Imam who knows his faith to an audi­ence of believ­ers com­pletely unfazed by what they are hearing.

That’s when sud­denly Mus­lims in Canada not only made it a point to con­demn it to the press, but accord­ing to the Daily Mail call­ing them­selves vic­tims:

Another imam, Ziad Asali, firmly con­demned the use of the verse.
’I do not under­stand how this per­son was invited to come and give a ser­mon and spread this hatred in Mon­tréal against any com­mu­nity,’ he told CBC.
’To use the themes of the Prophet to spread hatred is actu­ally some­thing that is dis­re­spect­ful towards the Prophet him­self.‘
Asali also spoke out against any mosque spread­ing extrem­ist mes­sages.
’These peo­ple, not only do they show hatred towards non-​Muslims, they even show hatred to us Mus­lims,’ he added

Yup, noth­ing shows hatred to Mus­lims like the quot­ing a Hadith of Islam by an Imam of Islam to a group of Muslims.

That the CBC didn’t find this nasty bit of weasel­ing, worth ques­tion­ing says some­thing, both about Mus­lims in Canada and the press that enables them, but there is some­thing worse, but that comes tomor­row.

Clos­ing thought: Canada has no first amend­ment and con­sid­ers such speech unlaw­ful so while I con­sider such laws unjust they had bet­ter damn well apply them equally to those who pro­fess Islam as to those who pro­fess Chris­tian­ity in its many forms.

But if it was up to me as a big first amend­ment guy if this Imam wants to quote stuff like this and peo­ple want to hear him I say it let him because of the prin­ci­ples of free­dom of speech and free­dom of reli­gion demand it. And By the same token peo­ple like me must be free to not only expose him these words, but be free to pub­licly cri­tique and rebuke him, all those who fol­low him for express­ing such things free to con­demn his reli­gion as false and wrong. He has the right to offend, we have the right to express our offense and offend him right back.

The eas­i­est way to find who you are enslaved to is to dis­cover who you are not allowed to offend by penalty of law.
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To those who like to argue that Islam is a religion of piece and those who wish to support terror and or kill Jews simply because they are Jews, this story out of Canada reported by CBC news:

Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque draws police complaint

Larger Muslim community wants apology from mosque and wonders why controversial imam was invited to preach

and at the Daily Mail

Outrage as Jordanian imam ‘recites anti-Semitic religious verse calling for Jewish people to be killed’ during sermon at Montreal mosque

  • A Jewish advocacy group filed a complaint Monday in Montreal, Canada
  • Spoke out against a sermon given by Sheikh Muhammad bin Musa Al Nasr
  • Jordanian cleric is believed to have been invited as a guest to the mosque
  • Quoted a verse that says: ‘O Muslim, O servant of Allah, O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him’
  • The larger Muslim community has condemned the use of the verse and urged the mosque to apologize 

But in the rush to congratulate the larger Canadian Muslim community on demonstrating their outrage and tolerance themselves on showing how tolerant the media reporting this story are missing two important points. Today let’s deal with the first one:

Where was the outrage of Muslims WHEN IT HAPPENED?

The CBC story states

The sermon took place at the Dar Al-Arqam Mosque in the city’s Saint-Michel neighbourhood on Dec. 23, 2016.

That means this imam spoke three months ago to a crowd of listeners at a Mosque in Canada. If you look at the listeners in the video, did you see people objecting? Did you see people complaining, did you see anyone raising a hand in dissent or even looking uncomfortable? Did any of them run to the Newspapers or even send them a letter saying how outraged they were over the event?

Nope.

Furthermore note what follows

The video was posted to the mosque’s YouTube channel three days later.

So since December 26th this video has been out there in plain sight (at least until this report, I wasn’t able to find it myself) and for some reason neither the folks at the Mosque nor any other Canadian Muslim who happened to watch the video during that time was all that outraged, Nor did any of the Muslims who viewed it, even if they might have agreed with it, think to say to the folks at the Mosque in question: “You know you might want to take that down as it doesn’t reflect well on us.”

Why, I submit and suggest because Canada’s Muslim community didn’t have a problem with it until it became known to non-Muslims and was plastered all over the web so every non-Muslim out there could see Islam preached as it is, by an Imam who knows his faith to an audience of believers completely unfazed by what they are hearing.

That’s when suddenly Muslims in Canada not only made it a point to condemn it to the press, but according to the Daily Mail calling themselves victims:

Another imam, Ziad Asali, firmly condemned the use of the verse.
‘I do not understand how this person was invited to come and give a sermon and spread this hatred in Montreal against any community,’ he told CBC.
‘To use the themes of the Prophet to spread hatred is actually something that is disrespectful towards the Prophet himself.’
Asali also spoke out against any mosque spreading extremist messages.
‘These people, not only do they show hatred towards non-Muslims, they even show hatred to us Muslims,’ he added

Yup, nothing shows hatred to Muslims like the quoting a Hadith of Islam by an Imam of Islam to a group of Muslims.

That the CBC didn’t find this nasty bit of weaseling, worth questioning says something, both about Muslims in Canada and the press that enables them, but there is something worse, but that comes tomorrow.

Closing thought: Canada has no first amendment and considers such speech unlawful so while I consider such laws unjust they had better damn well apply them equally to those who profess Islam as to those who profess Christianity in its many forms.

But if it was up to me as a big first amendment guy if this Imam wants to quote stuff like this and people want to hear him I say it let him because of the principles of freedom of speech and freedom of religion demand it. And By the same token people like me must be free to not only expose him these words, but be free to publicly critique and rebuke him, all those who follow him for expressing such things free to condemn his religion as false and wrong. He has the right to offend, we have the right to express our offense and offend him right back.

The easiest way to find who you are enslaved to is to discover who you are not allowed to offend by penalty of law.
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