Is Anti-Trump Left Media Culture Willing to Fight in Syria to Win?

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Is Anti-Trump Left Media Culture Willing to Fight in Syria to Win?

This week I attended the funeral mass of a friend of my father’s who served in the French Air Force dur­ing WW 2. and that got me think­ing about Syria and the mis­sile strikes now tak­ing place.

One of the things about being the son of a World War 2 Vet (Navy, Pacific 194245) is I tend to be much more will­ing to see US inter­ven­tion than peo­ple in my gen­er­a­tion who are the grand­chil­dren of that dying next gen­er­a­tion That gen­er­a­tion was will­ing to unite pay the price to stop the Axis power, albeit it took the Nazi’s attack­ing the USSR to get the left­ists on board and Pearl Har­bor to bring the iso­la­tion­ists on board.

Of course being a largely Chris­t­ian soci­ety and a type of Chris­tian­ity that actu­ally believed in heaven and hell (what would be called con­ser­v­a­tive today) such risks and sac­ri­fices were not only con­sid­ered vir­tu­ous but involved one’s eter­nal reward. Such a cul­ture is capa­ble of going to war in a just cause and was will­ing to pay the cost in blood and trea­sure to win it.

Today with a largely sec­u­lar soci­ety and a gen­er­a­tion that needs safe spaces for “microa­gres­sions” like say­ing “he” that’s a dif­fer­ent story.

Fur­ther­more we have the con­trast of a soci­ety being will­ing bear the costs in lives and trea­sure to keep a large mil­i­tary force in per­pe­tu­ity in the coun­tries we con­quered to change their soci­eties (our mil­i­tary is STILL in Ger­many , Italy and Japan 72 years later) vs cut­ting and run­ning like Barack Obama in Iraq for short term polit­i­cal advan­tage and allow­ing our ene­mies to gain power (which is what caused the rise of ISIS in the first place).

So while the gas attacks in Syria are hor­rific before we con­sider going to war in Syria we as a coun­try need to answer these questions.

  1. Are we will­ing to go to war and pay the price in blood and trea­sure to top­ple Assad risk­ing Amer­i­can lives in Syria?
  2. Are we will­ing to fight that war until it’s actu­ally won rather than fight a lim­ited war for the sake of sav­ing face?
  3. Are we will­ing once Assad is top­pled to stay in Syria for the 30 to fifty years to make sure Syria doesn’t become Iraq or Libya and leave it for Islamist to take over?
  4. Are we will­ing to take respon­si­bil­ity for not only the mil­i­tary but the civil­ian casu­al­ties that will inevitably take place in Syria in such a war?
  5. Are we will­ing to risk a mil­i­tary confrontation(s) with Rus­sia and Iran in order to do this?

If we as a soci­ety are will­ing to do this, then it’s absolutely a good idea for the US to declare war (yes we should actu­ally declare war) in Syria and sup­port what­ever sac­ri­fices it takes to win. I’d like to think that we are a soci­ety and a cul­ture strong enough to do what needs to be done to free Syria and stop not only Assad but his Iran­ian backers.

If the answer to any of those ques­tions are “no” If we balk at the costs, if we are only will­ing to fight a lim­ited war to save face and or cut and run in the face of Rus­sia and Iran and leave the sit­u­a­tion as it is, if we allow the left out­rage over every civil­ian casu­alty that war brings (and believe me the anti-​Trump left will do so) to cause us to blink, if we leave the Syria to become the next failed state dom­i­nated by Islamists to breed ter­ror then we are bet­ter off not going. We should do it right or not at all.

Frankly given the real­ity of our self-​centered, soft and nar­cis­sis­tic soci­ety I think this is the more likely out­come as I can’t see a nation where the very thought of being nice to Trump sup­port­ers sends the left into a pub­lic frenzy and where police stand by while riot­ers attack those who sup­port the pres­i­dent capa­ble of unit­ing under this pres­i­dent to achieve a great cause like this but I’d be delighted to be proved wrong.

Clos­ing thought: Can some­one explain to me why the slaugh­ter of the oppo­nents of Assad with chem­i­cal weapons is so heinous that it’s con­sid­ered a causes belli that must be acted upon but if Assad slaugh­ters those same peo­ple with bombs, shelling and small arms it’s not?

Clos­ing thought 2: Does any­one seri­ously believe that the left with the full back­ing of the media won’t go the full vietnam/​Iraq mode with the hope of pro­duc­ing Amer­i­can defeat if Trump does decides to go to war?


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This week I attended the funeral mass of a friend of my father’s who served in the French Air Force during WW 2. and that got me thinking about Syria and the missile strikes now taking place.

One of the things about being the son of a World War 2 Vet (Navy, Pacific 1942-45) is I tend to be much more willing to see US intervention than people in my generation who are the grandchildren of that dying next generation That generation was willing to unite pay the price to stop the Axis power, albeit it took the Nazi’s attacking the USSR to get the leftists on board and Pearl Harbor to bring the isolationists on board.

Of course being a largely Christian society and a type of Christianity that actually believed in heaven and hell (what would be called conservative today) such risks and sacrifices were not only considered virtuous but involved one’s eternal reward. Such a culture is capable of going to war in a just cause and was willing to pay the cost in blood and treasure to win it.

Today with a largely secular society and a generation that needs safe spaces for “microagressions” like saying “he” that’s a different story.

Furthermore we have the contrast of a society being willing bear the costs in lives and treasure to keep a large military force in perpetuity in the countries we conquered to change their societies (our military is STILL in Germany , Italy and Japan 72 years later) vs cutting and running like Barack Obama in Iraq for short term political advantage and allowing our enemies to gain power (which is what caused the rise of ISIS in the first place).

So while the gas attacks in Syria are horrific before we consider going to war in Syria we as a country need to answer these questions.

  1. Are we willing to go to war and pay the price in blood and treasure to topple Assad risking American lives in Syria?
  2. Are we willing to fight that war until it’s actually won rather than fight a limited war for the sake of saving face?
  3. Are we willing once Assad is toppled to stay in Syria for the 30 to fifty years to make sure Syria doesn’t become Iraq or Libya and leave it for Islamist to take over?
  4. Are we willing to take responsibility for not only the military but the civilian casualties that will inevitably take place in Syria in such a war?
  5. Are we willing to risk a military confrontation(s) with Russia and Iran in order to do this?

If we as a society are willing to do this, then it’s absolutely a good idea for the US to declare war (yes we should actually declare war) in Syria and support whatever sacrifices it takes to win. I’d like to think that we are a society and a culture strong enough to do what needs to be done to free Syria and stop not only Assad but his Iranian backers.

If the answer to any of those questions are “no” If we balk at the costs, if we are only willing to fight a limited war to save face and or cut and run in the face of Russia and Iran and leave the situation as it is, if we allow the left outrage over every civilian casualty that war brings (and believe me the anti-Trump left will do so) to cause us to blink, if we leave the Syria to become the next failed state dominated by Islamists to breed terror then we are better off not going. We should do it right or not at all.

Frankly given the reality of our self-centered, soft and narcissistic society I think this is the more likely outcome as I can’t see a nation where the very thought of being nice to Trump supporters sends the left into a public frenzy and where police stand by while rioters attack those who support the president capable of uniting under this president to achieve a great cause like this but I’d be delighted to be proved wrong.

Closing thought: Can someone explain to me why the slaughter of the opponents of Assad with chemical weapons is so heinous that it’s considered a causes belli that must be acted upon but if Assad slaughters those same people with bombs, shelling and small arms it’s not?

Closing thought 2: Does anyone seriously believe that the left with the full backing of the media won’t go the full vietnam/Iraq mode with the hope of producing American defeat if Trump does decides to go to war?


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