Morning Joe, KellyAnne Conway and Glass Houses

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Morning Joe, KellyAnne Conway and Glass Houses

Thus says the LORD: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neigh­bor. He shall lie with your wives in broad day­light. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the pres­ence of all Israel, and with the sun look­ing down.’”

2 Samuel 12:1112

One of my favorite sto­ries about my late mother comes from the days of my youth. It was near the end of the school year, May early June when I was in 4th grade at St. Anthony’s School. School was out and I was wait­ing on the steps for my mom to pick me up. This was in the days when nuns just started to ditch the habit and there was a young and very pretty nun who had done so at the school.

She was com­ing down the stairs near where I was sit­ting just as my mother was pulling up to get me, but ahead of my mother came by a guy in a con­vert­ible with the top down who see­ing a very pretty girl com­ing down the stairs pulled over and said some­thing to her. I didn’t hear what he said and it’s likely my nine year old, pre-​internet/​cable TV era ears might not have under­stood it at the time, but I remem­ber sis­ter get­ting very vis­i­bly angry as the man pulled away and my mother pulled up. I didn’t say good­bye to sis­ter as I nor­mally would (even out of uni­form we kids knew enough to keep out of the way when one of the nuns was mad) so I just headed for the pas­sen­ger seat of mom’s car, when the nun, still steam­ing walked over to my mother to vent her out­rage at about that guy try­ing to pick her, a nun, up, Till my dying day I’ll never for­get mom’s answer deliv­ered in a tone that was reserved for my and my broth­ers when being scolded:

Don’t go blam­ing that man, if you want to be treated with the respect of a nun, DRESS LIKE ONE!

The shock on sister’s face (and my own since I’d never seen any­one talk to a nun like that) was com­plete and had not gone away when I had gone. I went to a pub­lic school built prac­ti­cally next door to my house for the next two years and didn’t come back to St. Anthony’s till 7th grade but to my mem­ory from that day on either in school or at church at St. Anthony’s I never saw that nun with­out at least her nun’s coif (the head­scarf) on again.

The les­son I learned that day was this: While my mother was a woman of dis­cre­tion, you would never hear her make a neg­a­tive pub­lic or even pri­vate com­ment about any­one even an enemy, but if you invited her opin­ion you had bet­ter be ready to hear it because it would be blunt and merciless.

And that brings me to Morn­ing Joe and their attack on Kellyanne Conway

Until I started doing daily mass and work­ing overnights, Morn­ing Joe a sta­ple of my day. It was prac­ti­cally the only out­let for con­ser­v­a­tive opin­ion on MSNBC and I liked the fact that Mika didn’t pre­tend to be “objec­tive” as many lib­eral mem­bers of the media do.

I also had a good rela­tion­ship with both Joe and Mika. Joe hit DaTip­Jar at least once and in my early days it got back to me that he had good things to say about the site. I admired (and still do) their com­mit­ment to their fans who made the show and still believe Mika’s will­ing­ness to dis­cuss putting on a few pounds was an impor­tant cul­tural sym­bol and a pos­i­tive mes­sage to women who think they have to starve them­selves to look good. Both, Joe & Mika have been inter­viewed by me and despite their cur­rent Trump Derange­ment Syn­drome, this show is, based on con­tent, chem­istry and san­ity the best choice of view­ing on MSNBC and it’s not even close.

I have writ­ten a lot about the show itself but have been silent on their per­sonal lives. I heard plenty of rumors over the years but ignored them because first of all you don’t know whose say­ing things for the sake of an agenda and sec­ond of all it wasn’t my busi­ness. When those rumors even­tu­ally turned into a pub­lic engage­ment I still said noth­ing since it was no more my busi­ness when it’s now a mat­ter of pub­lic record and planned to have no com­ment on it on the grounds of decorum.

How­ever now that I see this on youtube:

and all over the net, and read this at HotAir:

Assume it’s all true, though. Why are Joe and Mika telling tales out of school like this? What­ever Con­way said to them about her reluc­tance to flack for Trump was doubt­less said in con­fi­dence. They’re breach­ing that con­fi­dence and seem­ingly doing it in hopes that Trump will hear this, get pissed off, and fire her. If you’re one of the eight thou­sand estab­lish­ment political/​media peo­ple who fre­quent this show as guests, why would you ever say another can­did thing in Scarborough’s or Brzezinski’s pres­ence? Obvi­ously they’ll try to use it to destroy you, pub­licly, on their own show, if you end up on their sh*t list. Sheesh.

I found the sheer brazen hypocrisy in a pub­lic forum for polit­i­cal and rat­ings gain is so offen­sive that it becomes nec­es­sary to say the obvi­ous rejoin­der aloud:

Did I actu­ally just wake up and see that Joe Scar­bor­ough and Mika Brzezin­ski who, newly engaged after divorc­ing their respec­tive spouses dur­ing the run of their show, exco­ri­ate Kellyanne Con­way in pub­lic for doing her job of defend­ing her boss in pub­lic even if some of his past actions dis­pleased her, rather than aban­don­ing him to help the much worse Hillary Clinton?

Do Joe and Mika really think it’s a good idea to pub­lic sug­gest KellyAnne Con­way is two faced over a cam­paign when they appar­ently spent years keep­ing up a pre­tence, say­ing one thing on air and mak­ing one pose in pub­lic, while doing some­thing com­pletely dif­fer­ent when the cam­eras are off and not only doing so but ask­ing oth­ers to go along with this masquerade?

Not only is their attack on Kellyanne Con­way dis­hon­or­able, but it bog­gles the mind that Trump derange­ment Syn­drome has dri­ven them to say this given their own efforts to hide their rela­tion­ship from the pub­lic as long as pos­si­ble. It terms of stu­pid­ity, that move is so remark­able, so incred­i­ble and so clue­less that I’m shocked that they would resort to it.

This act, at least to me was so incor­groutious that, like my mother lis­ten­ing to that young Nun’s rant, it’s worth the likely fall­out and the burn­ing of bridges to call them out on it.

Sim­ply Amazing.


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Thus says the LORD: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.  You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'”

2 Samuel 12:11-12

One of my favorite stories about my late mother comes from the days of my youth.  It was near the end of the school year, May early June when I was in 4th grade at St. Anthony’s School.   School was out and I was waiting on the steps for my mom to pick me up. This was in the days when nuns just started to ditch the habit and there was a young and very pretty nun who had done so at the school.

She was coming down the stairs near where I was sitting just as my mother was pulling up to get me, but ahead of my mother came by a guy in a convertible with the top down who seeing a very pretty girl coming down the stairs pulled over and said something to her.  I didn’t hear what he said and it’s likely my nine year old, pre-internet/cable TV era ears might not have understood it at the time,  but I remember sister getting very visibly angry as the man pulled away and my mother pulled up.  I didn’t say goodbye to sister as I normally would  (even out of uniform we kids knew enough to keep out of the way when one of the nuns was mad) so I just headed for the passenger seat of mom’s car, when the nun,  still steaming  walked over to my mother to vent her outrage at about that guy trying to pick her, a nun, up,  Till my dying day I’ll never forget mom’s answer delivered in a tone that was reserved for my and my brothers when being scolded:

Don’t go blaming that man, if you want to be treated with the respect of a nun, DRESS LIKE ONE! 

The shock on sister’s face (and my own since I’d never seen anyone talk to a nun like that) was complete and had not gone away when I had gone.  I went to a public school built practically next door to my house for the next two years and didn’t come back to St. Anthony’s till 7th grade but to my memory from that day on either in school or at church at St. Anthony’s  I never saw that nun without at least her nun’s coif (the headscarf) on again.

The lesson I learned that day was this:  While my mother was a woman of discretion, you would never hear her make a negative public or even private comment about anyone even an enemy,  but if you invited her opinion you had better be ready to hear it because it would be blunt and merciless.

And that brings me to Morning Joe and their attack on Kellyanne Conway

Until I started doing daily mass and working overnights, Morning Joe a staple of my day.  It was practically the only outlet for conservative opinion on MSNBC and I liked the fact that Mika didn’t pretend to be “objective” as many liberal members of the media do.

I also had a good relationship with both Joe and Mika.  Joe hit DaTipJar at least once and in my early days it got back to me that he had good things to say about the site.  I admired (and still do) their commitment to their fans who made the show and still believe Mika’s willingness to discuss putting on a few pounds was an important cultural symbol and a positive message to women who think they have to starve themselves to look good.  Both, Joe & Mika have been interviewed by me and despite their current Trump Derangement Syndrome, this show is, based on content, chemistry and sanity the best choice of viewing on MSNBC and it’s not even close.

I have written a lot about the show itself but have been  silent on their personal lives.  I heard plenty of rumors over the years but ignored them because first of all you don’t know whose saying things for the sake of an agenda and second of all it wasn’t my business.  When those rumors eventually turned into a public engagement I still said nothing since it was no more my business when it’s now a matter of public record and planned to have no comment on it on the grounds of decorum.

However now that I see this on youtube:

and all over the net, and read this  at HotAir:

Assume it’s all true, though. Why are Joe and Mika telling tales out of school like this? Whatever Conway said to them about her reluctance to flack for Trump was doubtless said in confidence. They’re breaching that confidence and seemingly doing it in hopes that Trump will hear this, get pissed off, and fire her. If you’re one of the eight thousand establishment political/media people who frequent this show as guests, why would you ever say another candid thing in Scarborough’s or Brzezinski’s presence? Obviously they’ll try to use it to destroy you, publicly, on their own show, if you end up on their sh*t list. Sheesh.

I found the sheer brazen hypocrisy in a public forum for political and ratings gain is so offensive that it becomes necessary to say the obvious rejoinder aloud:

Did I actually just wake up and see that Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski who, newly engaged after divorcing their respective spouses during the run of their show, excoriate Kellyanne Conway in public for doing her job of defending her boss in public even if some of his past actions displeased her, rather than abandoning him to help the much worse Hillary Clinton?

Do Joe and Mika really think it’s a good idea to public suggest KellyAnne Conway is two faced over a campaign when they apparently spent years keeping up a pretence, saying one thing on air and making one pose in public, while doing something completely different when the cameras are off and not only doing so but asking others to go along with this masquerade?

Not only is their attack on Kellyanne Conway dishonorable, but it boggles the mind that Trump derangement Syndrome has driven them to say this given their own efforts to hide their relationship from the public as long as possible.  It terms of stupidity, that move is so remarkable, so incredible and so clueless that I’m shocked that they would resort to it.

This act, at least to me was so incorgroutious that, like my mother listening to that young Nun’s rant, it’s worth the likely fallout and the burning of bridges to call them out on it.

Simply Amazing.


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