My Narnia Question for the Conservative “Dump Roy Moore” Crowd

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My Narnia Question for the Conservative "Dump Roy Moore" Crowd

Peter: Edmund said they were only pre­tend­ing.
Pro­fes­sor: And he’s the more truth­ful one is he?
Peter: No, this would be the first time.

The Chron­i­cles of Nar­nia The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe 2005

Over the last sev­eral days we have seen many promi­nent repub­li­cans from Mitt Rom­ney and John McCain who rep­re­sent the estab­lish­ment wing of the party, to Jonah Gold­berg who rep­re­sents the intel­lec­tual wing of the party, to the Twitchy site which while not call­ing explic­itly for Roy Moore to pull out has been very hard on any who defend him.

Now Rom­ney and McCain are very famil­iar with the tac­tics of the MSM/​left hav­ing had the “Binders of women” ‚and ani­mal cru­elty BS tossed at him while McCain saw a phony scan­dal con­cern­ing his wife be high­lighted by the left MSM.

Jonah Gold­berg lit­er­ally wrote the book on lib­eral fas­cism (It’s a great book btw you should buy it) and twitchy lit­er­ally gives exam­ples the MSM/​Left act­ing dis­hon­est and dis­hon­or­able seven days a week.

So all three have a well estab­lished first hand per­sonal famil­iar­ity of the men­dac­ity and spin of the MSM that all of us have spo­ken or talked about for years.

Now I have noth­ing against peo­ple fol­low­ing their gut feel­ings on any mat­ter but given our media friends his­tory I have a question:

Can you please explain to me why given that the choice for us is to give the ben­e­fit of the doubt to a MSM/​left which as Kurt Schlichter reminds us yet again:

So, let’s review. We’re sup­posed to demand laws that make it ille­gal for human sup­pos­i­to­ries like this to have guns, even though it was already ille­gal for him to have guns. We’re sup­posed to rely on gov­ern­ment back­ground checks to pro­tect us even though the gov­ern­ment keeps fail­ing at that. We’re also sup­posed to dis­arm at the behest of peo­ple who know lit­er­ally noth­ing about guns or exist­ing gun laws. And we’re sup­posed to not believe that we have the abil­ity to defend our­selves, even though nor­mal Amer­i­cans do so every day – here, an instruc­tor from the NRA lit­er­ally ended this blood­bath. But we should ignore that for rea­sons and because.

But wait, there’s more. We’re sup­posed to dis­arm in the face of peo­ple who cel­e­brate when we are mur­dered. The Hol­ly­wood types, tak­ing a break from molest­ing each other, didn’t exactly cel­e­brate our deaths, but they couldn’t help spew­ing their hatred for our faith. I bet if we were dis­armed, and a gov­ern­ment con­trolled by lib­er­als had a total monop­oly on force, they’d be totally cool and respect our reli­gious rights. I checked with Chet and he thinks so – it’s not like right now they want to bank­rupt peo­ple for not bak­ing cakes.

has a long his­tory of demon­strated bad faith in terms of hon­esty, integrity and act­ing as, in the words of Glenn Reynolds “Democ­rats with bylines”

OR

to Judge Roy Moore who has not only failed to show bad faith in the past, but, despite hav­ing been a tar­get of lib­eral an media ire (unlike say Denny Hastert who was the poster boy for a non-​controversial don’t rock the MSM/​establishment Bush Repub­li­can) for many many years with­out any such cards played against him by a media/​left that would have loved to take him down.

why you appar­ently find it the choice so much more dif­fi­cult than I?

And before you point to the Han­nity inter­view (which in fair­ness I haven’t seen or heard as I do have a life) or Lee dis­tanc­ing them­selves or even a gut feel­ing that I’ve already noted I’ll respect, remem­ber this, the very same media that is right now insist­ing that Moore drop out or be dropped will have no prob­lem sup­port­ing Joe (fin­gers) Biden for pres­i­dent in 2020.

I’ll close with this. One of the com­mon bonds of what we’ve seen out of the sto­ries that are finally break­ing out after the left and media pro­tected Har­vey Wein­stein et/​al for years has been this. As soon as the story actu­ally breaks sud­denly we dis­cover “Every­body knew”. This has been true from Cosby, to Wein­stein to Spacey which is why the media so des­per­ately NEEDS the Roy Moore to be a predator.

Now while in fair­ness dat­ing peo­ple of age in search of a wife (in Alabama the age of con­sent for mar­riage with parental per­mis­sion and minus a judge’s rul­ing is 14 tied with Utah and Rhode Island for the 5th youngest explicit age in the coun­try behind my state of Mass­a­chu­setts & Kansas [12] , and Texas & New Hamp­shire [13] all of which shocked the hell out of me) doesn’t come close to com­par­ing to drug­ging women and assault­ing them, or black­mail­ing folks for jobs, or assault­ing and rap­ing peo­ple on or off the set I sub­mit and sug­gest that folks in Alabama, where he has been a very pub­lic fig­ure for decades, just might have over the decades years heard some talk along those lines con­cern­ing the Judge if such things had been going on.

That being the case I’m going to leave the judge­ment if Moore is a preda­tor or spin­ning to avoid the ICK fac­tor from what would have been an appar­ently legal (but still ICKY) rela­tion­ship, or if an MSM try­ing to bring him down hav­ing noth­ing bet­ter than ICK of dat­ing em young spin decided to throw in a 14 year old to do this trick, to the vot­ers of Alabama are going to be a far bet­ter able to judge than any pun­dit includ­ing me if there is any there there.

Update: Don Surber reminds us of the steller record of the Wash­ing­ton Post on hon­esty from Nov of last year to this Feb:

Three major fab­ri­ca­tions in three months time.
Sadly, not a new world’s record.
When you don’t pun­ish reporters for Fake News, you get even more Fake News.
Which is why I am not con­vinced the Wash­ing­ton Post is not mak­ing this up.
Trust but ver­ify?
Dis­trust and wait for an inde­pen­dent ver­i­fi­ca­tion from a reli­able source.
Like the freak­ing Rolling Stone.

He’s also right about his btw

If Roy Moore com­mit­ted statu­tory rape, then he does not belong in the Senate.

Update 2: Now you know what the MSM/​Establishment is on a full court press to get Moore to drop out:

Dur­ing a seg­ment that aired on Friday’s broad­cast of Birm­ing­ham, AL ABC affil­i­ate WBMA 33/40’s 5 p.m. local news, polit­i­cal reporter Lau­ren Walsh sought out vot­ers in Columbiana, AL to gauge their reac­tions to the Wash­ing­ton Post report that alleged Repub­li­can U.S. Sen­ate hope­ful Roy Moore engaged in inap­pro­pri­ate con­duct with four teenage girls more than 34 years ago.

None of the respon­dents accord­ing to Walsh told her they believed the Post’s reporting.

The peo­ple of Alabama are not fools

Peter:  Edmund said they were only pretending.
Professor:  And he’s the more truthful one is he?
Peter:  No, this would be the first time.

The Chronicles of Narnia The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe 2005

Over the last several days we have seen many prominent republicans from Mitt Romney and John McCain who represent the establishment wing of the party, to Jonah Goldberg who represents the intellectual wing of the party, to the Twitchy site which while not calling explicitly for Roy Moore to pull out has been very hard on any who defend him.

Now Romney and McCain are very familiar with the tactics of the MSM/left having had the “Binders of women” ,and animal cruelty BS tossed at him while McCain saw a phony scandal concerning his wife be highlighted by the left MSM.

Jonah Goldberg literally wrote the book on liberal fascism (It’s a great book btw you should buy it) and twitchy literally gives examples the MSM/Left acting dishonest and dishonorable seven days a week.

So all three have a well established first hand personal familiarity of the mendacity and spin of the MSM that all of us have spoken or talked about for years.

Now I have nothing against people following their gut feelings on any matter but given our media friends history I have a question:

Can you please explain to me why given that the choice for us is to give the benefit of the doubt to a MSM/left which as Kurt Schlichter reminds us yet again:

So, let’s review. We’re supposed to demand laws that make it illegal for human suppositories like this to have guns, even though it was already illegal for him to have guns. We’re supposed to rely on government background checks to protect us even though the government keeps failing at that. We’re also supposed to disarm at the behest of people who know literally nothing about guns or existing gun laws. And we’re supposed to not believe that we have the ability to defend ourselves, even though normal Americans do so every day – here, an instructor from the NRA literally ended this bloodbath. But we should ignore that for reasons and because.

But wait, there’s more. We’re supposed to disarm in the face of people who celebrate when we are murdered. The Hollywood types, taking a break from molesting each other, didn’t exactly celebrate our deaths, but they couldn’t help spewing their hatred for our faith. I bet if we were disarmed, and a government controlled by liberals had a total monopoly on force, they’d be totally cool and respect our religious rights. I checked with Chet and he thinks so – it’s not like right now they want to bankrupt people for not baking cakes.

has a long history of demonstrated bad faith in terms of honesty, integrity and acting as, in the words of Glenn Reynolds “Democrats with bylines”

OR

to Judge Roy Moore who has not only failed to show bad faith in the past, but, despite having been a target of liberal an media ire (unlike say Denny Hastert who was the poster boy for a non-controversial don’t rock the MSM/establishment Bush Republican) for many many years without any such cards played against him by a media/left that would have loved to take him down.

why you apparently find it the choice so much more difficult than I?

And before you point to the Hannity interview (which in fairness I haven’t seen or heard as I do have a life) or Lee distancing themselves or even a gut feeling that I’ve already noted I’ll respect, remember this, the very same media that is right now insisting that Moore drop out or be dropped will have no problem supporting Joe (fingers) Biden for president in 2020.

I’ll close with this.  One of the common bonds of what we’ve seen out of the stories that are finally breaking out after the left and media protected Harvey Weinstein et/al for years has been this.  As soon as the story actually breaks suddenly we discover “Everybody knew”.  This has been true from Cosby, to Weinstein to Spacey which is why the media so desperately NEEDS the Roy Moore to be a predator.

Now while in fairness dating people of age in search of a wife (in Alabama the age of consent for marriage with parental permission and minus a judge’s ruling is 14 tied with Utah and Rhode Island for the 5th youngest explicit age in the country behind my state of Massachusetts & Kansas [12] , and Texas & New Hampshire [13] all of which shocked the hell out of me) doesn’t come close to comparing to drugging women and assaulting them, or blackmailing folks for jobs, or assaulting and raping people on or off the set I submit and suggest that folks in Alabama, where he has been a very public figure for decades, just might have over the decades years heard some talk along those lines concerning the Judge if such things had been going on.

That being the case I’m going to leave the judgement if Moore is a predator or spinning to avoid the ICK factor from what would have been an apparently legal (but still ICKY) relationship,  or if an MSM trying to bring him down having nothing better than ICK of dating em young spin decided to throw in a 14 year old to do this trick, to the voters of Alabama are going to be a far better able to judge than any pundit including me if there is any there there.

Update:  Don Surber reminds us of the steller record of the Washington Post on honesty from Nov of last year to this Feb:

Three major fabrications in three months time.
Sadly, not a new world’s record.
When you don’t punish reporters for Fake News, you get even more Fake News.
Which is why I am not convinced the Washington Post is not making this up.
Trust but verify?
Distrust and wait for an independent verification from a reliable source.
Like the freaking Rolling Stone.

He’s also right about his btw

If Roy Moore committed statutory rape, then he does not belong in the Senate.

Update 2: Now you know what the MSM/Establishment is on a full court press to get Moore to drop out:

During a segment that aired on Friday’s broadcast of Birmingham, AL ABC affiliate WBMA 33/40’s 5 p.m. local news, political reporter Lauren Walsh sought out voters in Columbiana, AL to gauge their reactions to the Washington Post report that alleged Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Roy Moore engaged in inappropriate conduct with four teenage girls more than 34 years ago.

None of the respondents according to Walsh told her they believed the Post’s reporting.

The people of Alabama are not fools