I’m Old Enough to Remember When Mueller & the MSM Thought The Russia Indictments Were a Big Deal

by Datechguy | May 11th, 2018

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I'm Old Enough to Remember When Mueller & the MSM Thought The Russia Indictments Were a Big Deal

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4th Doc­tor: Evi­dence, EVI­DENCE? You couldn’t hang a hat on that.

Doc­tor Who The Leisure Hive 1980

There seems to be noth­ing here in terms of a grand con­spir­acy to change the elec­tion. You are talk­ing minor ral­lies, buy­ing mega­phones, tweets and face­book groups and the spend­ing of THOU­SANDS of dol­lars in web ads.

If this is the big con­spir­acy there seems to be a lot lack­ing, par­tic­u­larly any kind of link to the actual Trump cam­paign. I sus­pect this will not stop the MSM to spin this as proof of the big link to the Trump cam­paign to sway the election.

This doesn’t even reach the level of small pota­toes, and any­one who tells you any dif­fer­ent is a liar try­ing to spin you.

Dat­e­chGuy Reads the Mueller Indict­ment Some Fun Facts (expect Updates) Where’s the Beef Feb 16 2018

When the Mueller indict­ments came out there was a lot of com­men­tary con­cern­ing it, some like me thought it was small pota­toes (with apolo­gies to small pota­toes which had more sub­stance than this) but the left par­tic­u­larly the media insisted that this showed that there were actual laws being bro­ken to elect Don­ald Trump.

How­ever there was one thing that both left and right agreed on, that these indict­ments would lead to noth­ing as the case would never go to trial as those charged were a bunch of Russ­ian nation­als and a few sug­gested at the time that for Mueller this was a fea­ture not a bug.

When pros­e­cu­tors are seri­ous about nab­bing law-​breakers who are at large, they do not file an indict­ment pub­licly. That would just induce the offend­ers to flee to or remain in their safe havens. Instead, pros­e­cu­tors file their indict­ment under seal, ask the court to issue arrest war­rants, and qui­etly go about the busi­ness of locat­ing and appre­hend­ing the defen­dants charged. In the Rus­sia case, how­ever, the indict­ment was filed pub­licly even though the defen­dants are at large. That is because the Jus­tice Depart­ment and the spe­cial coun­sel know the Rus­sians will stay safely in Russia.

Mueller’s alle­ga­tions will never be tested in court. That makes his indict­ment more a polit­i­cal state­ment than a charg­ing instrument.

Well unfor­tu­nately for Mueller all of us turned out to be wrong about that bit:

Lawyers for Russ­ian com­pany Con­cord Man­age­ment and Con­sult­ing, LLC, for­mally entered a “not guilty” plea in fed­eral court Mon­day in a case spe­cial coun­sel Robert Mueller prob­a­bly never thought would happen.

Mueller gen­er­ated head­lines with the Feb­ru­ary indict­ment, safe in the knowl­edge the 13 Rus­sians were beyond U.S. juris­dic­tion. There­fore, there would be no trial — only sen­sa­tional Russ­ian col­lu­sion accusations.

Yup they decided they wanted their day in court and given that they had been out of their reach of jus­tice you might think Mueller and com­pany were delighted to get them into court.

You’d think wrong:

The pros­e­cu­tion team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Con­cord Man­age­ment for­mally accepted the court sum­mons related to the case. Mueller’s pros­e­cu­tors also revealed that they tried to deliver the sum­monses for Con­cord and IRA through the Russ­ian gov­ern­ment, with­out success.

“The [U.S.] gov­ern­ment has attempted ser­vice of the sum­monses by deliv­er­ing copies of them to the Office of the Pros­e­cu­tor Gen­eral of Rus­sia, to be deliv­ered to the defen­dants,” pros­e­cu­tors wrote. “That office, how­ever, declined to accept the sum­monses. The gov­ern­ment has sub­mit­ted ser­vice requests to the Russ­ian gov­ern­ment pur­suant to a mutual legal assis­tance treaty. To the government’s knowl­edge, no fur­ther steps have been taken within Rus­sia to effec­tu­ate service.”

Yes you read that right, the pros­e­cu­tors of Mueller’s team went to court to say that they didn’t prop­erly serve the defen­dants so they shouldn’t go to trial yet.

I’ve heard of defen­dants dodg­ing ser­vice to avoid court but I’ve never heard of a pros­e­cu­tor try­ing to dodge a court case that way.

Need­less to say, Mueller’s team is not happy about this devel­op­ment since this is not a case they fig­ured on hav­ing to pros­e­cute to any­thing more than a suc­cess­ful press con­fer­ence. So, they have sought delay on the aston­ish­ing ground that the defen­dant has not been prop­erly served — notwith­stand­ing that the defen­dant has shown up in court and asked to be arraigned.

Under­stand, ser­vice of process is sim­ply the means by which a party seeks what Mueller has already got: the oppos­ing party’s appear­ance in the law­suit. But Mueller’s argu­ment is so price­less we can’t let it go unstated: In order to serve the defen­dants in a crim­i­nal case in which Mueller alleges that Rus­sia is an adver­sary gov­ern­ment that con­ducted espi­onage oper­a­tions against the Amer­i­can elec­tion, the Jus­tice Depart­ment sought the assis­tance of … yes … the gov­ern­ment of Rus­sia. I know you’ll be shocked to hear this, but DOJ says Rus­sia never got back to them.

The court how­ever was hav­ing none of it:

On Sat­ur­day, a fed­eral court rebuffed spe­cial coun­sel Robert Mueller’s request to fur­ther delay a court hear­ing in the alleged Russ­ian “troll farm” case. This is the one where the Inter­net Research Agency, Con­cord Man­age­ment, and Con­cord Cater­ing — along with 13 of their (Russ­ian cit­i­zen) employ­ees — were charged for spread­ing so-​called “fake news” dur­ing the 2016 U.S. elec­tions. A sched­uled Wednes­day arraign­ment of Con­cord must go for­ward, ruled U.S. Dis­trict Court Judge Dab­ney Friedrich.

None of the indicted firms or cit­i­zens were expected to play along with the U.S. legal pro­ceed­ings, but lawyers for Con­cord Man­age­ment unex­pect­edly came for­ward in April. Politico says “the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over rel­e­vant evi­dence to the Russ­ian firm and per­haps even to bait pros­e­cu­tors into an embar­rass­ing dis­missal in order to avoid dis­clos­ing sen­si­tive infor­ma­tion.” So far, Concord’s lawyers have asked for “a slew of dis­cov­ery requests demand­ing non­pub­lic details” about Mueller’s spe­cial investigation.

If the evi­dence is as weak as the indict­ment then the last thing Mueller wants to do is show that like the emperor in the fairy tale, he has no clothes but what will the MSM do if the drops the charges that they declared so big?

The surest way to put an end to this unwel­come turn of events would be to dis­miss the indict­ment — or at least drop the charges against the three busi­nesses so Prigozhin and the Krem­lin can’t use them to force Mueller’s hand. Of course, that would be very embar­rass­ing. But as all pros­e­cu­tors are taught from their first day on the job: Never indict a case unless you are pre­pared to try the case.

And if this was all about pur­su­ing actual crimes might have done so.

But as I’ve said before, the Mueller inves­ti­ga­tion is all about help­ing Democ­rats polit­i­cally so any deci­sion Mueller makes con­cern­ing it will be dri­ven exclu­sively by how it helps the left on elec­tion day.


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4th Doctor: Evidence, EVIDENCE? You couldn’t hang a hat on that.

Doctor Who The Leisure Hive 1980

There seems to be nothing here in terms of a grand conspiracy to change the election. You are talking minor rallies, buying megaphones, tweets and facebook groups and the spending of THOUSANDS of dollars in web ads.

If this is the big conspiracy there seems to be a lot lacking, particularly any kind of link to the actual Trump campaign. I suspect this will not stop the MSM to spin this as proof of the big link to the Trump campaign to sway the election.

This doesn’t even reach the level of small potatoes, and anyone who tells you any different is a liar trying to spin you.

DatechGuy Reads the Mueller Indictment Some Fun Facts (expect Updates) Where’s the Beef Feb 16 2018

When the Mueller indictments came out there was a lot of commentary concerning it, some like me thought it was small potatoes (with apologies to small potatoes which had more substance than this) but the left particularly the media insisted that this showed that there were actual laws being broken to elect Donald Trump.

However there was one thing that both left and right agreed on, that these indictments would lead to nothing as the case would never go to trial as those charged were a bunch of Russian nationals and a few suggested at the time that for Mueller this was a feature not a bug.

When prosecutors are serious about nabbing law-breakers who are at large, they do not file an indictment publicly. That would just induce the offenders to flee to or remain in their safe havens. Instead, prosecutors file their indictment under seal, ask the court to issue arrest warrants, and quietly go about the business of locating and apprehending the defendants charged. In the Russia case, however, the indictment was filed publicly even though the defendants are at large. That is because the Justice Department and the special counsel know the Russians will stay safely in Russia.

Mueller’s allegations will never be tested in court. That makes his indictment more a political statement than a charging instrument. 

Well unfortunately for Mueller all of us turned out to be wrong about that bit:

Lawyers for Russian company Concord Management and Consulting, LLC, formally entered a “not guilty” plea in federal court Monday in a case special counsel Robert Mueller probably never thought would happen.

Mueller generated headlines with the February indictment, safe in the knowledge the 13 Russians were beyond U.S. jurisdiction. Therefore, there would be no trial — only sensational Russian collusion accusations.

Yup they decided they wanted their day in court and given that they had been out of their reach of justice you might think Mueller and company were delighted to get them into court.

You’d think wrong:

The prosecution team sought the delay on the grounds that it’s unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case. Mueller’s prosecutors also revealed that they tried to deliver the summonses for Concord and IRA through the Russian government, without success.

“The [U.S.] government has attempted service of the summonses by delivering copies of them to the Office of the Prosecutor General of Russia, to be delivered to the defendants,” prosecutors wrote. “That office, however, declined to accept the summonses. The government has submitted service requests to the Russian government pursuant to a mutual legal assistance treaty. To the government’s knowledge, no further steps have been taken within Russia to effectuate service.”

Yes you read that right, the prosecutors of Mueller’s team went to court to say that they didn’t properly serve the defendants so they shouldn’t go to trial yet.

I’ve heard of defendants dodging service to avoid court but I’ve never heard of a prosecutor trying to dodge a court case that way.

Needless to say, Mueller’s team is not happy about this development since this is not a case they figured on having to prosecute to anything more than a successful press conference. So, they have sought delay on the astonishing ground that the defendant has not been properly served — notwithstanding that the defendant has shown up in court and asked to be arraigned.

Understand, service of process is simply the means by which a party seeks what Mueller has already got: the opposing party’s appearance in the lawsuit. But Mueller’s argument is so priceless we can’t let it go unstated: In order to serve the defendants in a criminal case in which Mueller alleges that Russia is an adversary government that conducted espionage operations against the American election, the Justice Department sought the assistance of . . . yes . . . the government of Russia. I know you’ll be shocked to hear this, but DOJ says Russia never got back to them.

The court however was having none of it:

On Saturday, a federal court rebuffed special counsel Robert Mueller’s request to further delay a court hearing in the alleged Russian “troll farm” case. This is the one where the Internet Research Agency, Concord Management, and Concord Catering—along with 13 of their (Russian citizen) employees—were charged for spreading so-called “fake news” during the 2016 U.S. elections. A scheduled Wednesday arraignment of Concord must go forward, ruled U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich.

None of the indicted firms or citizens were expected to play along with the U.S. legal proceedings, but lawyers for Concord Management unexpectedly came forward in April. Politico says “the move appeared to be a bid to force Mueller’s team to turn over relevant evidence to the Russian firm and perhaps even to bait prosecutors into an embarrassing dismissal in order to avoid disclosing sensitive information.” So far, Concord’s lawyers have asked for “a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details” about Mueller’s special investigation.

If the evidence is as weak as the indictment then the last thing Mueller wants to do is show that like the emperor in the fairy tale, he has no clothes but what will the MSM do if the drops the charges that they declared so big?

The surest way to put an end to this unwelcome turn of events would be to dismiss the indictment — or at least drop the charges against the three businesses so Prigozhin and the Kremlin can’t use them to force Mueller’s hand. Of course, that would be very embarrassing. But as all prosecutors are taught from their first day on the job: Never indict a case unless you are prepared to try the case.

And if this was all about pursuing actual crimes might have done so.

But as I’ve said before, the Mueller investigation is all about helping Democrats politically so any decision Mueller makes concerning it will be driven exclusively by how it helps the left on election day.


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