Conservative Roseanne fans Saved from the Fate of Doctor Who fans by It’s Cancellation

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Conservative Roseanne fans Saved from the Fate of Doctor Who fans by It's Cancellation

The whole Roseanne ker­fuf­fle brought to mind some­thing I wrote when I announced that after 41 years my love affair with Doc­tor Who had ended:

Now I know that since the series came back there has been a bit of a sjw agenda that has been pushed since the 2nd half of the 1st sea­son. As the years have gone by it’s become more and more open but I let it go, first because I was so pleased to see the series back, then because I thought David Ten­nant was great, then because I thought Matt Smith was the best thing to hap­pen to the series since Tom Baker, then because Peter Capaldi had given the char­ac­ter depth and then because Michelle Gomez was just so good as Missy and she and Capaldi worked so well that you wanted to see what hap­pened next.

The actual real­ity is that I loved this show and even as it tried to nudge me away or sug­gest that I and my val­ues were unwel­come I clung to it because of what it meant to me and mine. In a world becom­ing increas­ingly hos­tile it was my last my child­hood escape that decades later was still intact.

The abil­ity to sell a par­tic­u­lar world­view where the British Empire, Cap­i­tal­ism, the Mil­i­tary and Chris­tian­ity and the val­ues they espoused was the source of the world or in this case the uni­verses was helped by the fact said mes­sage was sold to the British pub­lic in gen­eral and British youth in par­tic­u­lar by two of the best TV writ­ers of the 21st cen­tury Stephen Mof­fat and Rus­sell Davies and by sub­urb act­ing by not only all of the doc­tors from Eccle­ston to Capaldi but by an incred­i­ble ensem­ble includ­ing Arthur Darvill, Jenna Cole­man, Alex Kingston, Cather­ine Tate, Matt Lucas (who really sur­prised me) and espe­cially Michelle Gomez whose per­for­mances rank as some of the finest in the entire 55 year his­tory of the show.

And the sales pitch was so sub­tle that by the time we saw Mof­fatt use the 1st Doc­tor as a stand in punch­ing bag stand­ing in for the val­ues of the gen­er­a­tion that saved the world from Nazism as some­thing to be mocked that the gen­er­a­tion that was saved from sub­ju­ga­tion by those folks were laugh­ing at those who saved them with­out real­iz­ing what they were doing.

That’s what skilled pro­pa­ganda does and it’s par­tic­u­larly effec­tive on mem­bers of a “fan­dom”. It’s the nature of fan­dom that you remain a fan. You might decide a par­tic­u­lar show or actor wasn’t up to snuff but because you have built a rela­tion­ship with a show or char­ac­ter or uni­verse it’s hard to let go, even if it’s hos­tile to you and your believes, you let it go because of that rela­tion­ship, par­tic­u­larly if it one that you had for years (or in my case decades). With­out being well grounded in actual real­ity it’s very easy to surrender.

And that brings us to Roseanne.

For all the fuss about Roseanne being “right wing” she is and always has been a crea­ture of the left, albeit one who likes Trump which I sus­pect comes from still remem­ber­ing the life of a stand up comic. Other than her abil­ity to rec­og­nize the dan­ger of rad­i­cal Islam and the Mus­lim Broth­er­hood her val­ues are Hol­ly­wood values.

More­over those Hol­ly­wood val­ues were shared by her cast, her writ­ers and the net­work that car­ried them and while they were care­ful in sea­son 1 not paint sup­port­ers of the cur­rent admin­is­tra­tion as vil­lains the ground­work was being laid for the sea­sons to come.

Those sea­son were going to be all about teach­ing the “Con­nor” fam­ily to accept things that con­ser­v­a­tive in gen­eral and social con­ser­v­a­tives in par­tic­u­lar reject. Oh to be sure it was going to be sub­tle and the com­edy was going to be there and there would be real care not to por­tray the Con­nors in a neg­a­tive light but don’t doubt for one minute that if the series con­tin­ued this was going to be the plan.

It would have been pulled off bril­liantly by their group of 1st class writ­ers and a strong cast head­lined by Roseanne her­self, Sarah Gilbert and the spec­tac­u­lar John Good­man who is in my opin­ion on of the best all around actors/​comics in the industry.

The irony of course is the con­ser­v­a­tive audi­ence would have gone along con­sid­er­ing their view­ing a rebel­lion against a media cul­ture that hates them not know­ing that they were going to be played and within a sea­son or two the crit­ics would have been hail­ing the series for pro­gress­ing and becom­ing more “inclu­sive” as the years went on.

That was the long game, all of that was what was com­ing and the left might have pulled it off, if they had been capa­ble of accept­ing Roseanne’s apol­ogy over her tweets over the years.

But for­tu­nately for us on the right there were not and now not only has the left’s best chance to sell their val­ues to the right with­out them even real­iz­ing gone up in smoke but it’s done so in such a way and at such a time designed to cause max­i­mum dam­age to that same left in a crit­i­cal midterm elec­tion we couldn’t have planned it bet­ter if we tried.

That’s why after act­ing rashly out of anger they are try­ing to fig­ure out how to the plan back on track

There is some cau­tious opti­mism that Roseanne, can­celled by ABC on Mon­day, could con­tinue with­out co-​creator and star Roseanne Barr. I hear the show’s pro­duc­ers will be meet­ing with Dis­ney–ABC exec­u­tives on Mon­day to pitch a revamped Rosean­newith­out the title star (and likely the orig­i­nal title too).

Details about the con­cept that will be pitched are unclear but the show is expected to stay true to the praised first sea­son of the revival — the series’ 11th over­all — fea­tur­ing the other cast mem­bers except Barr. There could be stronger empha­sis on Sara Gilbert’s char­ac­ter Dar­lene, which can be expected since the revival was cen­tered mainly on three char­ac­ters, Roseanne (Barr), Dan (John Good­man) and their daugh­ter Dar­lene (Gilbert) who moved back home with her kids.

, Allah­pun­dit how­ever is most likely right about what it would mean if anything:

Dar­lene is the fourth-​most com­pelling char­ac­ter on the show, tops. I like the idea of keep­ing “Roseanne” going but only if it’s fun­da­men­tally a show about Dan and Jackie mov­ing on from Roseanne’s death. If they go the Dar­lene route, they’re going to get one sea­son out of it. Although maybe that’s the point: All they’re doing here, per­haps, is giv­ing the cast, crew, and writ­ers the sec­ond year of employ­ment they were count­ing on before Roseanne ripped it out from under them. They’ll do 10 episodes of semi-​respectable rat­ings and then pack it in.

In one sense that would be jus­tice as none of those peo­ple had any­thing to do with the can­cel­la­tion but “the Dar­line show” is unlikely to draw the con­ser­v­a­tives who were upset with the can­cel­la­tion and any attempt to sub­tly dose any who do hang around is now likely to be spot­ted a mile away.

So in the end con­ser­v­a­tive Roseanne fans with­out know­ing it, have got­ten lucky break

Would that Doc­tor Who fans had been as lucky.

The whole Roseanne kerfuffle brought to mind something I wrote when I announced that after 41 years my love affair with Doctor Who had ended:

Now I know that since the series came back there has been a bit of a sjw agenda that has been pushed since the 2nd half of the 1st season. As the years have gone by it’s become more and more open but I let it go, first because I was so pleased to see the series back, then because I thought David Tennant was great, then because I thought Matt Smith was the best thing to happen to the series since Tom Baker, then because Peter Capaldi had given the character depth and then because Michelle Gomez was just so good as Missy and she and Capaldi worked so well that you wanted to see what happened next.

The actual reality is that I loved this show and even as it tried to nudge me away or suggest that I and my values were unwelcome I clung to it because of what it meant to me and mine. In a world becoming increasingly hostile it was my last my childhood escape that decades later was still intact.

The ability to sell a particular worldview where the British Empire, Capitalism, the Military and Christianity and the values they espoused was the source of the world or in this case the universes was helped by the fact said message was sold to the British public in general and British youth in particular by two of the best TV writers of the 21st century Stephen Moffat and Russell Davies and by suburb acting by not only all of the doctors from Eccleston to Capaldi but by an incredible ensemble including Arthur Darvill, Jenna Coleman, Alex Kingston, Catherine Tate, Matt Lucas (who really surprised me) and especially Michelle Gomez whose performances rank as some of the finest in the entire 55 year history of the show.

And the sales pitch was so subtle that by the time we saw Moffatt use the 1st Doctor as a stand in punching bag standing in for the values of the generation that saved the world from Nazism as something to be mocked that the generation that was saved from subjugation by those folks were laughing at those who saved them without realizing what they were doing.

That’s what skilled propaganda does and it’s particularly effective on members of a “fandom”.  It’s the nature of fandom that you remain a fan.  You might decide a particular show or actor wasn’t up to snuff but because you have built a relationship with a show or character or universe it’s hard to let go, even if it’s hostile to you and your believes,  you let it go because of that relationship, particularly if it one that you had for years (or in my case decades).  Without being well grounded in actual reality it’s very easy to surrender.

And that brings us to Roseanne.

For all the fuss about Roseanne being “right wing” she is and always has been a creature of the left, albeit one who likes Trump which I suspect comes from still remembering the life of a stand up comic.  Other than her ability to recognize the danger of radical Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood her values are Hollywood values.

Moreover those Hollywood values were shared by her cast, her writers and the network that carried them and while they were careful in season 1 not paint supporters of the current administration as villains the groundwork was being laid for the seasons to come.

Those season were going to be all about teaching the “Connor” family to accept things that conservative in general and social conservatives in particular reject.  Oh to be sure it was going to be subtle and the comedy was going to be there and there would be real care not to portray the Connors in a negative light but don’t doubt for one minute that if the series continued this was going to be the plan.

It would have been pulled off brilliantly by their group of 1st class writers and a strong cast headlined by Roseanne herself, Sarah Gilbert and the spectacular John Goodman who is in my opinion on of the best all around actors/comics in the industry.

The irony of course is the conservative audience would have gone along considering their viewing a rebellion against a media culture that hates them not knowing that they were going to be played and within a season or two the critics would have been hailing the series for progressing and becoming more “inclusive” as the years went on.

That was the long game, all of that was what was coming and the left might have pulled it off, if they had been capable of accepting Roseanne’s apology over her tweets over the years.

But fortunately for us on the right there were not and now not only has the left’s best chance to sell their values to the right without them even realizing gone up in smoke but it’s done so in such a way and at such a time designed to cause maximum damage to that same left in a critical midterm election we couldn’t have planned it better if we tried.

That’s why after acting rashly out of anger they are trying to figure out how to the plan back on track

There is some cautious optimism that Roseannecancelled by ABC on Monday, could continue without co-creator and star Roseanne Barr. I hear the show’s producers will be meeting with Disney-ABC executives on Monday to pitch a revamped Roseannewithout the title star (and likely the original title too).

Details about the concept that will be pitched are unclear but the show is expected to stay true to the praised first season of the revival — the series’ 11th overall — featuring the other cast members except Barr. There could be stronger emphasis on Sara Gilbert’s character Darlene, which can be expected since the revival was centered mainly on three characters, Roseanne (Barr), Dan (John Goodman) and their daughter Darlene (Gilbert) who moved back home with her kids.

, Allahpundit however is most likely right about what it would mean if anything:

Darlene is the fourth-most compelling character on the show, tops. I like the idea of keeping “Roseanne” going but only if it’s fundamentally a show about Dan and Jackie moving on from Roseanne’s death. If they go the Darlene route, they’re going to get one season out of it. Although maybe that’s the point: All they’re doing here, perhaps, is giving the cast, crew, and writers the second year of employment they were counting on before Roseanne ripped it out from under them. They’ll do 10 episodes of semi-respectable ratings and then pack it in.

In one sense that would be justice as none of those people had anything to do with the cancellation but “the Darline show” is unlikely to draw the conservatives who were upset with the cancellation and any attempt to subtly dose any who do hang around is now likely to be spotted a mile away.

So in the end conservative Roseanne fans without knowing it, have gotten lucky break

Would that Doctor Who fans had been as lucky.