Congratulations Golden State only 8 more Rings to catch Russell!

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Congratulations Golden State only 8 more Rings to catch Russell!

Yes­ter­day the Golden State War­riors Closed out their 3rd NBA title in four years deci­sively sweep­ing away LeBron James and the Cleve­land Cavaliers.

This has prompted quite a bit of “Great­est Team of all Time” talk and with­out ques­tion this team is to this point the most dom­i­nant of the 21st cen­tury Lebron James com­par­ing them to the New Eng­land Patri­ots is quite apt.

But for those of you who are buy­ing into the “great­est team of all time busi­ness” let me pro­vide you to this link to the stats page of a fel­low named Rus­sell who was known to play a lit­tle bas­ket­ball in my youth.

If you scroll town to the “play­off sec­tion you will note that next to Mr. Rus­sell you will note that there are lit­tle gold rings next to 11 of the 13 sea­sons listed.

Now if we con­cede that there are more play­off rounds in the cur­rent era (even while ignor­ing that fewer teams means less dilu­tion of tal­ent) and penal­ize Mr. Russell’s Celtics have of those titles we still find they have 2 12 more rings that the cur­rent Golden State team.

When they get those two rings, then call me back and we’ll talk.

Fur­ther­more for those who are say­ing Lebron James is the great­est player of all time, a per­fectly rea­son­able argu­ment if you’ve ever seen him play, par­tic­u­larly when we con­sider that he’s appar­ently been play­ing this year’s finals with a bro­ken hand, you might also note that while his own stats are loaded, in his 13 years he has played so far, 12 of them as an all star he has in 8 trips to the NBA finals come out with a ring 3 times.

Mr. Rus­sell also played 13 years, 12 of them as an all star and dur­ing that time went to 12 NBA cham­pi­onships win­ning 11 the final two as Player coach!

Now I think you can make a very fair argu­ment for James as the great­est of all time, just as you can for Michael Jor­dan and for Kareem Abdul Jab­bar, who for some rea­son never in included in this con­ver­sa­tion despite win­ning the first of his six rings at the age of 23 two years after Rus­sell last (197071) and his last at the age of 40 in the 19871988 sea­son when a 24 year old Michael Jor­dan was in his fourth year three years removed from the first of his six tiles.

But to dis­miss Bill Rus­sell from that con­ver­sa­tion, a man who not only went 1213 in going to the finals and 1112 at win­ning them but also won two titles while coach­ing the team as well, that’s just nonsense.

Yesterday the Golden State Warriors Closed out their 3rd NBA title in four years decisively sweeping away LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

This has prompted quite a bit of “Greatest Team of all Time” talk and without question this team is to this point the most dominant of the 21st century Lebron James comparing them to the New England Patriots is quite apt.

But for those of you who are buying into the “greatest team of all time business” let me provide you to this link to the stats page of a fellow named Russell who was known to play a little basketball in my youth.

If you scroll town to the “playoff section you will note that next to Mr. Russell you will note that there are little gold rings next to 11 of the 13 seasons listed.

Now if we concede that there are more playoff rounds in the current era (even while ignoring that fewer teams means less dilution of talent) and penalize Mr. Russell’s Celtics have of those titles we still find they have 2 1/2 more rings that the current Golden State team.

When they get those two rings, then call me back and we’ll talk.

Furthermore for those who are saying Lebron James is the greatest player of all time, a perfectly reasonable argument if you’ve ever seen him play, particularly when we consider that he’s apparently been playing this year’s finals with a broken hand, you might also note that while his own stats are loaded, in his 13 years he has played so far, 12 of them as an all star he has in 8 trips to the NBA finals come out with a ring 3 times.

Mr. Russell also played 13 years, 12 of them as an all star and during that time went to 12 NBA championships winning 11 the final two as Player coach!

Now I think you can make a very fair argument for James as the greatest of all time, just as you can for Michael Jordan and for Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who for some reason never in included in this conversation despite winning the first of his six rings at the age of 23 two years after Russell last (1970-71) and his last at the age of 40 in the 1987-1988 season when a 24 year old Michael Jordan was in his fourth year three years removed from the first of his six tiles.

But to dismiss Bill Russell from that conversation, a man who not only went 12/13 in going to the finals and 11/12 at winning them but also won two titles while coaching the team as well, that’s just nonsense.