I’m Old Enough to Remember When Believing in Creation Meant You Were a Science Denier

Readability

I'm Old Enough to Remember When Believing in Creation Meant You Were a Science Denier

[cap­tion id=“attachment_107403” align=“aligncenter” width=“768”] Expert on Gud’s Laws, no clue on the types of DNA[/caption]

It’s become prac­ti­cally a cliché in media and the left that to believe in reli­gion is to be a “sci­ence denier”. This con­ve­niently for­gets that that men of faith have been men of sci­ence for cen­turies and that the uni­ver­sity sys­tem itself came from the Catholic church.

That’s why I think this story is going to get lit­tle or no play out­side of faith or con­ser­v­a­tive cir­cles:

Land­mark new research that involves ana­lyz­ing mil­lions of DNA bar­codes has debunked much about what we know today about the evo­lu­tion of species.

In a mas­sive genetic study, senior research asso­ciate at the Pro­gram for the Human Envi­ron­ment at Rock­e­feller Uni­ver­sity Mark Stoeckle and Uni­ver­sity of Basel geneti­cist David Thaler dis­cov­ered that vir­tu­ally 90 per­cent of all ani­mals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.

More specif­i­cally, they found out that 9 out of 10 ani­mal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

The arti­cle goes into detail about how this was dis­cov­ered, the full study itself has been pub­lished in the jour­nal Human Evo­lu­tion and is avail­able here, it’s con­clu­sion:

Sci­ence greed­ily seizes sim­plic­ity among com­plex­i­ties. Spe­ci­a­tion occurs via alter native path­ways dis­tinct in terms of the num­ber of genes involved and the abrupt­ness of tran­si­tions [148]. Nuclear vari­ance in mod­ern humans varies by loci in part due to unequal selec­tion [149] and the link­age of neu­tral sites to those that undergo dif­fer­en­tial selec­tion. Com­plex­ity is the norm when deal­ing with vari­ance of the nuclear ensem­ble [150154]. It is remark­able that despite the diver­sity of spe­ci­a­tion mech­a­nisms and path ways the mito­chon­dr­ial sequence vari­ance in almost all extant ani­mal species should be con­strained within nar­row parameters.
Mostly syn­ony­mous and appar­ently neu­tral vari­a­tion in mito­chon­dria within species shows a sim­i­lar quan­ti­ta­tive pat­tern across the entire ani­mal king­dom. The pat­tern is that that most — over 90% in the best char­ac­ter­ized groups — of the approx­i­mately five mil­lion bar­code sequences clus­ter into groups with between 0.0% and 0.5% vari­ance as mea­sured by APD, with an aver­age APD of 0.2%

Sci­ence being sci­ence fur­ther study of these results cer­tainly is war­ranted and the con­clu­sion based on the evidece that 90% of all species appeared at the same time in study is not the same as con­clud­ing that:

Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth all kinds of liv­ing crea­tures: cat­tle, creep­ing things, and wild ani­mals of all kinds.” And so it hap­pened: God made all kinds of wild ani­mals, all kinds of cat­tle, and all kinds of creep­ing things of the earth. God saw how good it was.

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, after our like­ness. Let them have domin­ion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the cat­tle, and over all the wild ani­mals and all the crea­tures that crawl on the ground.”

Gen­e­sis 1:2426

was the cause of these results, as our skep­ti­cal human­ists friends will no doubt rightly tell us. So by all means con­tinue the research and let it go where it may.

But before you get your hopes up about debunk­ing this study you might want to read what I thought was the most sig­nif­i­cant quote con­cern­ing this study the arti­cle at Tech Times: (empha­sis mine)

“This con­clu­sion is very sur­pris­ing,” says Thaler, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.”

In other words this pro­fes­sor real­iz­ing what the con­clu­sions from his data implied did all he could to debunk this unex­pected con­clu­sion short of alter­ing the data itself, but being a sci­en­tist look­ing for results rather than a per­son seek­ing to val­i­date his own opin­ions was forced to come to the con­clu­sions pub­lished herein.

I have no idea if Pro­fes­sor Thaler is a dis­ci­ple of Christ or a dis­ci­ple of Moses but he is with­out a ques­tion a dis­ci­ple of Feyn­man who said

It doesn’t mat­ter how beau­ti­ful your the­ory is, it doesn’t mat­ter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with exper­i­ment, it’s wrong.

Or to put it another way, con­ven­tional wis­dom is always cor­rect right up until the moment it’s not.

Via Weird­dave at Ace of Spade

Expert on Gud’s Laws, no clue on the types of DNA

It’s become practically a cliche in media and the left that to believe in religion is to be a “science denier”.  This conveniently forgets that that men of faith have been men of science for centuries and that the university system itself came from the Catholic church.

That’s why I think this story is going to get little or no play outside of faith or conservative circles:

Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.

In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.

More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

The article goes into detail about how this was discovered, the full study itself has been published in the journal Human Evolution and is available here, it’s conclusion:

Science greedily seizes simplicity among complexities. Speciation occurs via alter native pathways distinct in terms of the number of genes involved and the abruptness of transitions [148]. Nuclear variance in modern humans varies by loci in part due to unequal selection [149] and the linkage of neutral sites to those that undergo differential selection. Complexity is the norm when dealing with variance of the nuclear ensemble [150-154]. It is remarkable that despite the diversity of speciation mechanisms and path ways the mitochondrial sequence variance in almost all extant animal species should be constrained within narrow parameters.
Mostly synonymous and apparently neutral variation in mitochondria within species shows a similar quantitative pattern across the entire animal kingdom. The pattern is that that most—over 90% in the best characterized groups—of the approximately five million barcode sequences cluster into groups with between 0.0% and 0.5% variance as measured by APD, with an average APD of 0.2%

Science being science further study of these results certainly is warranted and the conclusion based on the evidece that 90% of all species appeared at the same time in study is not the same as concluding that:

Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth all kinds of living creatures: cattle, creeping things, and wild animals of all kinds.” And so it happened: God made all kinds of wild animals, all kinds of cattle, and all kinds of creeping things of the earth. God saw how good it was.

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the cattle, and over all the wild animals and all the creatures that crawl on the ground.”

Genesis 1:24-26

was the cause of these results, as our skeptical humanists friends will no doubt rightly tell us.  So by all means continue the research and let it go where it may.

But before you get your hopes up about debunking this study you might want to read what I thought was the most significant quote concerning this study the article at Tech Times:  (emphasis mine)

“This conclusion is very surprising,” says Thaler, “and I fought against it as hard as I could.” 

In other words this professor realizing what the conclusions from his data implied did all he could to debunk this unexpected conclusion short of altering the data itself, but being a scientist looking for results rather than a person seeking to validate his own opinions was forced to come to the conclusions published herein.

I have no idea if Professor Thaler is a disciple of Christ or a disciple of Moses but he is without a question a disciple of Feynman who said

It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.

Or to put it another way, conventional wisdom is always correct right up until the moment it’s not.

Via Weirddave at Ace of Spade