You know Christopher Harper & I are old enough to remember when these kinds of things were done by the media

But because the media have become democrats with bylines such things are left to James O’Keefe and Project Veritas

Well it’s kind of sad that this kind of work has to be done by a James O’Keefe vs the MSM but if I’m wrong about the MSM & the “Democrats with bylines” bit and given their claimed commitment to real news, an actual plot to release acid at events, chain up DC subways, and assault people at the inauguration , particularly with said revelations on video, might just be considered newsworthy by places like CNN:

and CBS

and NBC

and ABC (whose ads kept overriding the results forcing me to use the ad blocking Brave Browser in order to see them)

and PBS

and the NYT

Or perhaps not.

But even if national news services didn’t cover it, you would think surely the Washington Post would carry the story if not because of it’s national importance but because it affects their local metro area


You would think wrong.

Remember these are searches of their web sites. So not only are they not covering this in print or on camera, not a one of them even bothered with a throw away piece buried online.

I guess well have to wait for Trump to tweet the story out for them to cover it.

If you wonder why this administration calls the MSM fake news and likes DaTechGuyblog’s reporting more than theirs, you don’t have to wonder anymore.

Closing thought, it’s interesting to note via several of the graphics that during the presidential campaign the networks seemed to be willing to coordinate attacks on O’Keefe to hide the evidence of Democrat operatives trying to foment violence at Trump events

Closing thought 2. I guess this proves Christopher Harper’s point:


All told, journalists did seem to be better once upon a time. At least my students and I will be able to delve into what once was to determine if we can use the lessons of the oldies but goodies to adapt to today’s environment.


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As I prepare to teach the history of journalism this semester, I’ve been thinking about whether reporters used to do a better job.

The notions of objectivity, fairness and balance are standards that occurred in the 1950s when leaders of the media sought a more favorable impression of journalists as professionals. The standards also aimed at a better business model by getting all sides to read a story. Many European journalists eschew such an approach, providing a set of facts and then arguing from a distinctly partisan point of view.

I like the European approach much better. That way I don’t have to parse the political leanings of a journalist who’s hiding behind the alleged standards of objectivity. I think journalists should admit their biases and their partisan beliefs. I like accuracy and transparency as better standards for good journalism.

For example, John Hersey’s “Hiroshima,” which chronicles the stories of six survivors of the atomic bomb, is generally considered the finest work in journalism during the 2oth century. The article and book are not balanced. The story describes the horror of what happened and how people lived and died in horrific conditions.

Paul Fussell, the late academic who might have been one of the estimated one million Allied casualties had the bomb not been used, offered a useful and not-so-objective look at the alternative in his 1981 essay in the New Republic, “Thank God for the Atom Bomb!”

In his excellent book, “Getting It Wrong: Debunking the Greatest Myths in American Journalism,” American University professor W. Joseph Campbell dispels a number of myths held strongly by reporters. For example, the evidence that Richard Nixon won the 1960 first debate with John Kennedy on radio and lost among television viewers has little basis in fact. The evidence simply does not exist.

Campbell argues successfully that Woodward and Bernstein did not bring down Nixon as a result of their Watergate reporting. The Washington Post’s efforts dovetailed with the work of Congress, the judicial system and other perhaps more important actors in the scandal.

I would add some other examples of getting it wrong. The Tet Offensive got widespread attention as an example of how the United States was losing the war in Vietnam. In fact, the Viet Cong suffered huge losses—a fact that did not get much play in the media.

Joe McCarthy may have used extreme tactics in his attack on Communism. But his underlying belief that Communists had infiltrated the U.S. government after World War II proved to be accurate once Soviet archives became available. Based on documents made available after the collapse of the Soviet Union, U.S. Library of Congress historian John Earl Haynes concluded that of the 159 people identified as subversives on lists cited by McCarthy, nine had almost definitely aided in Soviet espionage (and many others could be considered security risks for various reasons).

Nevertheless, I found some of the writing of leftists of bygone eras much more palatable than today’s screeds. For example, Martha Gellhorn’s account of the bombing of Barcelona during the Spanish Civil War provides a great deal of insight into the “collateral damage” of that war.

Gellhorn, an avowed leftist, got it right in my view when she declared that objectivity was nonsense, particularly when she was reporting about the Nazi death camps.

Jimmy Breslin, another lefty writer, was able to talk with ordinary people—an ability lost by the current generation of reporters. “It’s An Honor” is Breslin’s account of the death and burial of Kennedy in which one of the key characters is the guy who dug the grave for the assassinated president. Here is the column: http://www.newsday.com/opinion/digging-jfk-grave-was-his-honor-jimmy-breslin-1.6481560

Richard Ben Cramer’s account of the 1988 election campaign, “What It Takes,” is a far more insightful analysis that anything we have seen since then, particularly his evisceration of Joe Biden, the plagiarist who became vice president. Cramer’s book is also far better than the acclaimed “Making of a President, 1960” by Theodore White about JFK’s campaign, which we now know had widow Jacqueline as the chief architect of the book’s meme.

You have to respect someone like the recently deceased Nat Hentoff, a lefty who also opposed abortion despite losing many friends and some writing gigs because of his pro-life stance.

All told, journalists did seem to be better once upon a time. At least my students and I will be able to delve into what once was to determine if we can use the lessons of the oldies but goodies to adapt to today’s environment.

Note for transparency purposes: W. Joseph Campbell is a friend. I knew Richard Ben Cramer.


Christopher Harper is a longtime journalist who teaches media law and history of journalism.

Contrary to popular belief, liberal mainstream media bias is not the same ol’ narrative that conservatives have had to fight since the 1970s. Starting with the Bush administration and as a direct result of the rise of the internet, liberal journalists have dramatically increased their blatant favoritism towards progressive agendas. They don’t even try to hide it anymore.

We see a lot of publications like Newsbusters reporting on the bias. This is a good thing, but it’s not enough. As conservative citizens, bloggers, and social media users, we have to do more than point out the bias because most people are already aware that it exists. Sure, there are still pockets of hardcore progressives who claim the media is biased against them rather than the other way around, but we won’t be able to reach those people. Our focus should be on the masses who accept that media bias exists but who still allow themselves to be indoctrinated by it.

This is where fighting “smarter” comes into play. Most have seen examples of or even participated in the insult wars against people who share biased news. I’ve done it many times in the past, often referring to the “sheep” who hang on every declaration on The View or who share Paul Krugman links every time he writes a condemnation of conservative principles. We have to stop. The ball is in our court. We have the opportunity to start real political discourse. It won’t be easy. The passions on the left are heavy and have been stung repeatedly since November. We need patience and intelligence. We need to take the high road.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be aggressive with our strategies. One of the easiest arguments to make is calling out hypocrisy. It’s hard to deny when presented the right way, particularly in the current situation. It’s hypocritical of everyone on the left who fought for a smooth transition of power and acceptance of election results until it was their side calling the election results into question. You can’t tell us we need to accept the results if Hillary Clinton won, then decline to accept the results because she lost. This is just one example of the hypocrisy.

As I’ve noted in the past, both the media and liberal politicians are going to go after Trump’s biggest weakness: his thin skin. They know that he’ll respond to attacks, so that’s exactly what they’re going to do. However, it’s in the way they’re going to spin it that the damage can be done. They will attack, then wait for the counter-attack and report mostly on the latter. Today, we see it in the “feud” between Trump and Congressman John Lewis. The Congressman drew first blood by calling the legitimacy of Trump’s Presidency into question, for which he was rewarded by the press as being brave and righteous. When Trump attacked back, the media unleashed the hounds to highlight Trump as being racist (Lewis is black), misinformed (Trump called out Lewis as all talk, no action, despite his very real actions during the civil rights movement), and a bully (okay, that one’s accurate).

Trump Tweeted insults at a man who attacked him. How is that bigger news than a respected American politician calling into question the legitimacy of a Presidency based upon an intelligence briefing that admits the actual effects of Russia’s attempts are unclear? Are we supposed to unify behind Barack Obama but revolt against Trump? That’s essentially what Lewis is calling for, but you’d never know that based upon media coverage.

As noted on TNA, conservatives must go on the offensive against the bias:

What’s the right answer to the media bias problem? Fight back. Spread real news. Correct those who fall for the bias. Scorn those who report with bias. A free press is there to keep Americans informed, not indoctrinated. It’s time to make the media realize their agenda is not our agenda.What’s the right answer to the media bias problem? Fight back. Spread real news. Correct those who fall for the bias. Scorn those who report with bias. A free press is there to keep Americans informed, not indoctrinated. It’s time to make the media realize their agenda is not our agenda.

This is why we must fight harder. Despite the election results, we are losing this battle. The left is regrouping. The attacks from the media are incessant and increasing in ferocity. It’s up to conservatives to not only highlight when the media reveals their leftist agenda, but to also offer alternatives to those narratives. We have the truth on our side. It’s time for us to make others see it for what it is.

Sunday morning begins with the left all a shutter over Donald Trump revealing that the absolute moral authority™ that the left conferred on him over his civil rights record 50 years ago has expired.

It’s a very Breitbartian response to the congressman who was never called to account for making false claims at the passage of Obamacare despite a $100K bounty for video or audio to support his claims of racism.

The media/left loud outrage was predictable as was Allahpundit’s willingness to join in this panic but in the end it changes nothing and all that the fuss will do is demonstrate Democrat importance.

As Batman said to the Joker in the original Dark Knight #3. “you’re playing the old game, today I’m taking no prisoners.


We’ve also heard a lot about how horrible it is that he said this with  Martin Luther King Day coming, but the fact is many of the left rejected King in life considering him an uncle tom and only embraced him after death when he was of use.  Furthermore given the  black community’s rush to re-segregate schools and dorms in the name of “diversity” and the Democrats embrace of it that they invoke King at all is frankly obscene.

If MLK was alive today he’d be ostracized in the same way as Clarence Thomas


For several weeks in the media we have seen story after story about GOP fears over the repeal of Obamacare and the press reporting that they are having 2nd thoughts.

Alas for the left that narrative has gone the way of the dodo

On a largely party line vote, the GOP controlled House passed a budget which will allow the party to repeal Obamacare using reconciliation, a process reserved for budget related items which cannot be filibustered in the Senate. The budget bill passed 227-198, with all Democrats and 9 Republicans voting against it.

That amounts to under 4% of the GOP defecting and largely because they (rightly) object to the level of spending. In the highly unlikely event that the same level defect from the senate, say a Rand Paul in protest to the spending, that will easily leave 50 votes to finish off Obamacare and don’t be surprised if a few democrats running for re-election in red states join in.

So I guess we can classify those stories as “fake news”.


For all those journalists still getting the vapors over Trump’s attack, here is an example of the actual mistreatment of journalists:

Hamas blocked journalists from filming a major protest against power cuts in the northern Gaza Strip on Thursday, detaining an Associated Press journalist at gunpoint and badly beating an Agence France-Presse photographer who refused to relinquish his camera.

The journalists sought to cover a demonstration against chronic electricity shortages in Gaza, which the AP described as “one of the largest unauthorized protests in the territory since the Islamic militant group took power a decade ago.”

Oddly the MSM doesn’t find this all that newsworthy, likely because Hamas opposes Trump.


Speaking of fake news lets also talks more fake hate crimes

Ann Doss Helms reports another fake hate crime in the Charlotte Observer. A kindergarten teacher was alleged to have committed the fake hate crime against a Muslim student. CAIR promoted the fake hate crime in its patented style, alleging a two-month reign of terror against the boy. The fake hate crime duly made the national news. Then came the investigation:

Police found no evidence to confirm a November report that a teacher bullied and assaulted a Muslim kindergartener at David Cox Road Elementary, Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools reported Friday.

Principal Celeste Spears-Ellis notified parents that the accused teacher has returned to the classroom after the District Attorney’s Office found “no evidence of an assault other than the complainant’s report” and no grounds for criminal charges.

As a general rule if you have to fake hate crimes to make news odds are they aren’t happening.  And may I say that this bit (and the next) shows that Powerline has become a must read website


We’ve heard a lot about fake news let’s talk fake charities:

The Clinton Global Initiative has informed the New York Department of Labor that it intends to lay off its 22 employees on April 15, 2017. The reason given is “Discontinuation of the Clinton Global Initiative.” Here, via the The Great American Movement, is a link to the notice on the NY DOL web site.

It’s must be tough for a family of influence peddlers when they have no more influence to peddle.


It seems to me that this evaluation is correct:

THIS ISN’T A PROTEST, IT’S A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY: Inauguration Protesters Plan To Destroy Property And Disrupt Balls.

I think these people have decided the way to power and influence in the Democrat party is to destroy, I think they’ll look great in a DC jail and if Sessions decides to go after this stuff using RICO and start suing the folks funding these guys it could get interesting


I’ve been playing a lot of Civilization 6. It seems to me a radical departure from the previous versions. I really feel that I’m playing a different game rather than an update, not necessarily a better or worse one, but a different one. The real change is that I’ve been working in a two laptop system where one is dedicated to the game and the other to this work.


I’m an old comic book guy and at Christmas I picked up a bunch of stuff out of my kids folder for them along with six issues of Usagi Yojimbo by Stan Staki that I never cancelled. You would think after 20 years the quality might drop just a little, but it hasn’t. Along with Groo I’ll still pick them up and enjoy them.


Finally Yesterday Atlanta made mincemeat out of Seattle 36-20 and were celebrated as a powerhouse  while the Patriots pretty much treated the Texans the same in a 34-16 win and were greeted with stories about what is going wrong with them.  That’s how good the Pats are.

Incidentally The NFL should think it’s lucky stars for Tom Brady and the Patriots, the story of his suspension and their quest for Superbowl 5 along with the rise of the Cowboys, Atlanta and Aaron Rogers Packers have overshadowed the idiocy of Kaepernick et/al, but the real NFL news was San Diego telling the chargers to pound sand when asking for a new stadium. I think taxpayers are catching on to the scam.

S.F. WOMAN MURDERED BY ILLEGAL ALIEN http://t.co/i2Z5cxFaqx When does @realDonaldTrump get his apology from the media? @AmPowerBlog #tcot — Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) July 3, 2015

There has been a lot written lately about the pure hatred of Donald Trump by the MSM and his return of the contempt shown him but people often forget the real reason why the media so hate and fear him.

One of the powers of the MSM is the ability to decide if a story is a local one, or a national one, take a look at this story from the San Francisco Chronicle and see if you can figure out if it will become national news:

A former sixth-grade science and math teacher at a Richmond charter school was found guilty on multiple counts of child molestation, capping a trial in which prosecutors presented evidence that he assaulted 13 children repeatedly for years — including one inside a church.

A Contra Costa County Superior Court jury found Ronald David Guinto guilty on Thursday of 87 counts related to child molestation, said the prosecutor, Alison Chandler. The jury was hung on three other counts, she said.

Yup you guessed it, a search of the story for the word “priest” or “catholic” generates no results.

You see a story that highlights a gay predator, particularly one that shows he was once a scout leader and used that position to find victims might be harmful to the agenda of a media/liberal/democrat ally so such stories are considered “local”.  Meanwhile the story of a group of gay men on an international level doing the same is a national story because rather than grouping them by sexual preference they can be grouped by a roman collar.  That’s why such stories while plentiful to the extreme, have remained “local news”

It’s interesting to note that our Friend Robert Stacy McCain has noted a few other stories that don’t make national news for example this example of violence against women on a college campus somehow didn’t find the interest of the many people in the media and government pushing this issue

Yesterday we reported about Pablo Gomez Jr., the radical activist at the University of California-Berkeley accused of murdering one woman and seriously stabbing another. The College Fix has video that shows Gomez harassing College Republicans at a campus event last September

Alas Mr. Gomez is not the member of a frat, is of the wrong ethnic persuasion and worst of all was a leftist activist who actively worked to harass conservatives and Republicans on campus, therefore this story of murder and violence on campus against women remains a local story of no interest to the MSM.

There are of course cases when such stories get out despite the gatekeepers for example the chicago Torture case would have remained a local story if the video wasn’t streamed the MSM gatekeepers would have kept it a local chicago and avoided the embarrassment of explaining why such torture was not evil and didn’t qualify as a “hate” crime.

But those moments were rare enough that the MSM could write them off as an occasional reverse, that was until July 3rd 2015 and this tweet

On July 3rd 2015 the Murder of Katheryn Steinle was just a story highlighted by conservative bloggers on their sites and a few conservative sites Then Donald Trump started tweeting and as I wrote a few days later everything changed:

It is the media that decided Trayvon Martin death was a national story that deserved national reflection. It was also the media that decided that the murder of Jessie Dirkhising a 13 year old boy who was bound, drugged, gagged and brutally sodomized by a pair of gay men was not newsworthy enough to be covered nationally.
It was the media who decided that the violent multi hour long rapes and murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian by a group of five black carjackers was not worth headlines, but the death of Michael Brown after he robbed & assaulted a storeowner was worth wall to wall coverage.

But Donald Trump IS news so when the MSM decided that the murder Kathryn Steinle wasn’t newsworthy he had other plans

That is why the MSM is so anxious about Donald Trump and his twitter feed, in the pre trump era (1 BD before Donald?) a story at reported locally and picked up by conservative sites like Breitbart that clashed with the MSM narrative could be safely ignored.

Now in the year 2 AT (Anno Trump) any such story is a single tweet away from not only being national or international news but would do so before the MSM has collectively agreed on what the narrative of the story might be.

This is why the left in general and the MSM in particular is so terrified, they have lost the power of the narrative and will be hard pressed to get it back during the Trump era.

Be afraid MSM, be very afraid.


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After a day of publicity that included Drudge and Fox Legal Insurrection’s Youtube channel is back up

UPDATE: As of approximately 7:30 p.m. on January 13, 2017, our YouTube Channel was restored, though there are still legal battles to come over the videos.

I’m sure the litigation from Professor Jacobson will be quite revealing but there is one thing that we won’t need discovery to know, we are going to see a lot more of this.

From the Banning of Stacy to Milo to others the left’s primary tactic toward power is to hide their actual goals and beliefs from the general public while claiming something else. Thus when a Stacy McCain buys bookshelves full of volumes on feminism and checks out the public web sites of radical feminists and quotes them in context he finds himself banned from twitter. When Milo calls out the left and gives specifics while mocking them he is also banned, and thus when Legal Insurrection reports on the BDS movement and exposes their actual words spoken to the public who are told that they are really all about justice and not about hatred of Jews, thus he is banned.

Nothing defeats the left more than for them to be seen as they are, thus when we expose them saying what they actually think to the world their wrath is incalculable.

We will be seeing a lot more of this since their primary power is now gone

Taken aback, Longstreet at last saw what the trouble was. Bragg was miffed because his design for herding the blue coats into McLemore’s Cove had gone astray…In other words, if he could not win in just the way he wanted, he did not care about winning at all, or anyhow he wanted no personal share in such a victory

Shelby Foote The Civil War A Narrative Fredericksburg to Meridian p 744

If there has been one constant in the story of the rise of the alternate media it’s that the mainstream media outlets have been biased against conservatism and have served as defacto media arm of leftists in general and the Democrat party in particular.

The MSM’s unwillingness to report honestly burying stories unfavorable to liberal memes like

while pushing and defending thin or false stories to advance said memes

is what made folks like Matt Drudge, Instapundit and me  what we are today.

In fact the bias of the left is so bad that not only does Newsbusters document it daily but their annual dinner highlighting journalism worst abuses of the year is practically the nerd prom of the right.

So I’m slightly surprised when I see tweets like this upset at some of the POTUS’ tweets about press ethics or lack thereof


Matt used to be at Newsbusters concerned by things like this

The irony is palatable particularly given this

and this

and of course this

I understand that some of my fellow conservatives don’t like or trust Donald Trump but this doesn’t require pity for the dishonest media. I’d say Iowahawk puts it very well as always in two tweets

Personally I don’t understand the frustration of any conservative, even one who hates Trump over all this. Consider this lament from the Baltimore Sun

Trump lashed out at BuzzFeed in his press conference today, calling it a “failing pile of garbage.” He also refused to take a question from a CNN correspondent Jim Acosta.

“I’m not going to give you a question,” Trump told Acosta. “You are fake news.”

I wish he had saved all his wrath for BuzzFeed, which clearly deserves it.

Thanks to BuzzFeed, all of us in the press are diminished.

or the Sight of reports on CNN cutting and running from Buzzfeed:

CNN distances itself from BuzzFeed, says Trump is using the website ‘to deflect from CNN’s reporting’

or the joy of Chuck Todd suddenly deciding that Buzzfeed isn’t a great news source:

and NBC undermining CNN

Less than 18 months ago every conservative I know would have given their eye teeth to discredit the dishonest and dishonorable MSM and break their power. Now that it’s happening because of Trump some conservatives are suddenly worried about this kind of thing.

Let me remind everyone that there is an easy way for the MSM to stop bleeding it’s credibility by acting like a bunch of Democrats with bylines:

Stop acting like a bunch of Democrats with bylines!


That’s it, do who what when where and why, confirm your stories and make sure you have at least one or two people with a different ideological bent who can see the bias you can’t before you publish and you’ll be fine but I suspect for the left that’s too high a price to pay for credibility.

As for me I suggest rather than bemoaning Trump I suggest sitting back and enjoying the MSM crashing and burning around me.

Closing Thought, as I recall part of the phony Buzzfeed story was a suggestion that Donald Trump has an affinity for some sexual practices that some might find deviant.

Can anyone really any time in the last 8 years when any critique, let alone condemnation of deviant sexual practices did not elicit a cry of Bigot from places like Buzzfeed why did they consider the idea, false that it was, that Trump enjoyed such practices a cause for celebration and loudly condemn anyone who said otherwise?


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Well NH, you decided that you didn’t want Kelly Ayotte as your senator so you sent governor Maggie Hassan to the US senate and on her first day in the sunlight she manages to beclown herself.

Here is the Daily Caller story:

New Hampshire Sen. Maggie Hassan appeared to be unaware during a Senate confirmation hearing on Tuesday that a Washington Post story about Russian hacking into the Vermont power grid has been completely debunked and retracted.

“Two weeks ago The Washington Post reported that a hacking group connected with the Russian government managed to infiltrate the Burlington Electric power company in Vermont,” Hassan said to retired Marine Gen. John Kelley during his confirmation hearing to head the Department of Homeland Security.

Hassan, who took office this month after serving as governor of New Hampshire, showed no indication during the questioning that she was aware that The Post’s story has been found to be “fake news.”

The retractions on that story were rather epic and it’s quite an embarrassment for Senator Hassan and her staff.

Then again did anyone familiar with Senator Hassan’s record as NH governor or her campaign against Senator Ayotte really expect her to know or care about the difference between the truth and falsehood?

Today Donald Trump will have his first press conference in a while and due to a combination of distance work and circumstances I won’t be there to ask questions as I have before, but for those interested here is the question I had planned on asking if I had been able to get there.

“Mr. President Elect, for over 50 years the entertainment industry has derided the Hollywood blacklist of actors and writers who supported the single most murderous ideology of the 20th century.

Given that history of opposing blacklists, what would you say to those in Hollywood and on Broadway who seem to suddenly have no problem blacklisting performers who might either perform for you or suggest support for you and furthermore how surprised have you been to see both an industry and individuals that you worked fine with for decades suddenly turn on you?

Given that this question doesn’t come at the question from the : “Why do you such so bad?” angle I predict that nobody at the press conference will ask anything like it.

Yes this is what the professional left actually thinks of you.

I guarantee you if a white person seeing this going on shot any of the teens doing this Lemon and his guests on the left would have no problem blaming not the shooters parents or his upbringing but his race.

There are two lessons here. The first is that these acts are the natural result of selling a false narrative of oppression and genocide to one’s base for political purposes by the media and the current administration. It is my belief that to our media friends this result is a feature not a bug meant to intimidate.

The second any conservatives who believed it is no longer necessary to arm yourself because Trump won were wrong.

If you want to know why CNN is not trusted this is it.

As to why the rest of the media isn’t trusted:

Despite the racial violence Democrats have incited, and despite evidence that resentment of the Obama administration’s anti-white policies factored into Clinton’s November defeat, the liberal media continue promoting the Democrats’ anti-Trump/anti-white message. John Hinderaker at Powerline observed how the Associated Press attempted to conceal the racial politics of the Chicago atrocity, while Glenn Reynolds commented on the failure of most major media outlets to connect the dots of this racial hate crime: “If the races were reversed, there would be near-unanimous media efforts to blame Trump, and they wouldn’t be waiting until all the facts were in to do it.

They are anti religion ends and means people and if reporting facts harms their political ends while encouraging racial violence improves them, then the MSM & left are all in.

That’s evil.

Update:  Cripes Newsbusters could have a category for this story alone:

If this wasn’t on facebook this would be considered a local Chicago story and not worth the networks time, unless of course the races were reversed.