The tragic fate of so many innocent victims in Mumbai deserves our pity. But what should live in special infamy was the ruthless execution of the Lubavitcher rabbi, Gavriel Hertzberg, and his lovely wife, Rivka, who was 5 months pregnant. These were two idealistic young people of obvious warmth and humanity, who sought only to serve. The rescue by their Indian nanny of their orphaned 2-year-old son, Moshe, crying and smeared with his parents’ blood, is already legendary. Was this zeroing in on the Chabad Jewish Center in Mumbai about Israel, or was it simply a gruesome eruption of the medieval tradition of anti-Semitism? Why have Muslim organizations, very quick to protest insulting cartoons, been mostly silent about the atrocities in Mumbai?
The slaughter of the Hertzbergs and other Jews at Chabad House should be a wake-up call to Western liberals who believe that jihadism can be defeated through reason and happy talk. Only other Muslims can launch the stringent internal reform necessary to stomp this barbaric extremism out. But the events in Mumbai confirmed my opinion about the looming problem of a nuclear Iran: While I oppose all American military operations and bases in the Mideast, I continue to believe that Israel, whose security is directly threatened, has every right to take preemptive military action against Iran.
Plus you’ve gotta love someone in the same column when she says this, quotes Invader Zim approvingly.
Here is a story you likely haven’t seen on the national news:
On Sept. 5, Robinson dropped his wife and two children off at the Burger King restaurant at 41st Street and Memorial Drive and was pulling into an auto dealership across the street for an oil change when his cell phone rang.
“My spouse told me there was a man inside with a gun, saying he was going to kill everybody,” said Robinson, an 11-year veteran of the highway patrol who is assigned to the Creek and Muskogee turnpikes.
The off duty officer managed to get in and subdue the armed man, a pretty piece of work but hardly national news right? I mean it wasn’t as if it was an attempted terror attack or something. Oh wait:
“It was one of those deals of being in the right place at the right time,” Robinson said. “I believe he would have loaded up that gun and gone to town because he was praying for Allah to help him carry out his mission.”
Gee, a person with a weapon praying to Allah getting ready to slaughter people in middle America. Must be those pesky Zoroastrians again.
“But tech guy” you say, “It was just a single guy in the midwest named Jerome that’s not an attempted Islamic attack. It’s not national news” Well lets see, a Muslim guy with a gun praying to Allah before preparing to complete his “mission”. I’d say it passes the walks like a duck test.
And believe me if it was a Catholic praying the Rosary or even Better a mormon with a Yes on Prop 8 sign it would have been at least the 3rd story on the news.
Via Gateway Pundit who notices stuff like this and knows a duck when he sees one.
It occurs to me that with the combination of cell phones and facebook that this kind of thing likely happens a lot more than we think:
At the exact moment Jon Favreau is receiving high praise in pre-inaugural media puff pieces, the 27-year-old chief speechwriter for President-elect Barack Obama (not Jon Favreau, the Hollywood actor/ director) finds himself in a minor mess over a photo from a recent private party showing him groping the breast of a cardboard cutout of Hillary Rodham Clinton as an unnamed pal wearing an “Obama staff” T-shirt kisses and feeds her beer.
Instead of the liberal world where the press will protect an important Obama fellow from this stuff. (I’ll leave that argument for Violet and friends who won’t be surprised) today lets look at it in the real world.
First of all drunken idiots have been doing things since mead (which tastes awful in my opinion but these guys would disagree) was first created. It’s one of the reasons besides the fact that I’m cheap; I avoid drinking in public places. When you are drunk or stoned you are going to act like an idiot, when I act like an idiot I want to know I’m doing it.
Second of all in the age of the Cell phone and Facebook and e-mail a picture of you being a drunken idiot can not only be spread around the world in moments but might be on youtube forever (just do a search for star wars kid if you don’t believe me). The data may sit but it will be there.
Now imagine you are a HR person, if a candidate passes the first round of interviews I suspect a strong online search will take place. In this age of mandatory “sensitivity” and “sexual harassment” training, growing unemployment and lawsuits on demand are you going to risk a callback to the fellow in that drunken picture mooning the camera or that lady in that web video showing off her thong no matter how good their interview was? I think not.
And PLEASE don’t tell me it doesn’t matter. The 14 year old daughter of one of my oldest friends was talking to me a few days ago. She works in a local supermarket and the discussion of “Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays” came up. She was told if she said “Merry Christmas” and someone complained, she would be fired. She also said that if she said “Happy Holidays” and someone complained, she would be fired. It was the complaint that mattered and with 100+ teens waiting to take her job she will wisely keep her mouth shut. If she can lose her job for that what do you think a nasty chat log or e-mailed photo will do?
And what if you ever are on the verge of fame of greatness? People will be looking for those photos and blogs will be looking for the hits, just ask Ace.
In the end the internet is like a tattoo it can be expensive and unavailing to try to get off once you are on. This guy has the right idea:
The only real solution, argues a hacker and security researcher who calls himself “Dead Addict,” is to not reveal your personal information in the first place.
That whole article is worth a read but remember this. Unless you were there you will likely never see your grandparents drunk, wild and idiotic even if they were party animals, but your grandchildren’s grandchildren will be able to watch you play “pull my finger” in a continuous loop forever.
He deals with the denial of Islam’s involvement first:
The veteran British TV anchor Jon Snow, on the other hand, opted for the more cryptic locution “practitioners.” “Practitioners” of what, exactly?
Hard to say. And getting harder. Tom Gross produced a jaw-dropping round-up of Bombay media coverage: The discovery that, for the first time in an Indian terrorist atrocity, Jews had been attacked, tortured, and killed produced from the New York Times a serene befuddlement: “It is not known if the Jewish center was strategically chosen, or if it was an accidental hostage scene.”
Hmm. Greater Bombay forms one of the world’s five biggest cities. It has a population of nearly 20 million. But only one Jewish center, located in a building that gives no external clue as to the bounty waiting therein. An “accidental hostage scene” that one of the “practitioners” just happened to stumble upon? “I must be the luckiest jihadist in town. What are the odds?”
The rhetorical circles that those in denial are in would tie any person in a knot. He then skews the Muslims are feeling vulnerable” meme:
Last week, a Canadian critic reprimanded me for failing to understand that Muslims feel “vulnerable.” Au contraire, they project tremendous cultural confidence, as well they might:
They’re the world’s fastest-growing population. A prominent British Muslim announced the other day that, when the United Kingdom becomes a Muslim state, non-Muslims will be required to wear insignia identifying them as infidels. If he’s feeling “vulnerable,” he’s doing a terrific job of covering it up.
We are told that the “vast majority” of the 1.6-1.8 billion Muslims (in Deepak Chopra’s estimate) are “moderate.” Maybe so, but they’re also quiet. And, as the AIDs activists used to say, “Silence=Acceptance.”
Deepak Chopra earns a Nelson almost every time he opens his mouth. Islam is not feeling vulnerable its feeling powerful. he concludes echoing Tom Freeman who came much later to the conclusion Stein reached years ago:
I wrote in my book, America Alone, that “reforming” Islam is something only Muslims can do. But they show very little sign of being interested in doing it, and the rest of us are inclined to accept that. Spread a rumor that a Koran got flushed down the can at Gitmo, and there’ll be rioting throughout the Muslim world. Publish some dull cartoons in a minor Danish newspaper, and there’ll be protests around the planet. But slaughter the young pregnant wife of a rabbi in Bombay in the name of Allah, and that’s just business as usual. And, if it is somehow “understandable” that for the first time in history it’s no longer safe for a Jew to live in India, then we are greasing the skids for a very slippery slope. Muslims, the AP headline informs us, “worry about image.” Not enough
It is understandable in two ways that Muslims are not anxious to speak out. They are even more afraid of getting not only their throats cut but their relatives then the others. Even if they don’t It’s basically tribal, like a Mafia family and even if one doesn’t risk death in a face society you don’t go against the tribe.
There is also the feeling of power, as one of Sicilian decent I see it in people eyes on occasion when my nationality comes up. Don’t forget this moment:
The combination of liberal cultural guilt and raw fear is a source of strength.
In the end it comes to this, Militant Islam is going to have to be either stopped, submitted to or changed from within.
The current president and our military have made a good effort at the first particularly going on offense, but it will take time, effort and treasure.
As far as submitting goes laws in the west have already headed in that direction even to the point where Sharia law is gaining in England and Canada. I hate to say it but frankly I suspect that those who cry loudest at the “Oppression” of the current administration would find a reason and excuse to submit if Sharia comes to call.
As far as change goes it can either be from within or imposed. There are men and woman with a whole hell of a lot more courage than me such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Nonie Darwish and Walid Shoebat trying to make the case at the risk of their lives but unless the avg Muslim supports them they can’t do it alone. It still remains to be seen if they are the William Lloyd Garrisons of their times.
We cannot change the hearts and minds of those people in the south but we can make war so terrible and make them so sick of war that generations will pass before they would again appeal to it.
And least anyone thinks I am calling for that sort of thing a 2nd quote of Sherman bears repeating as well:
I confess, without shame, that I am sick and tired of fighting — its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands, and fathers … it is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated … that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation. May 1865
It is going to be totally up to us as westerners and the Muslim people everywhere how this will end.
I can’t believe I spent over an hour writing this on a weekend but then again I unfortunately have a bit of free time.
Back in my HiWired blog days I had a category called internet speech where I documented good and bad news concerning internet free speech you can still find some of those pages in google cache.
One of the things I give major kudos to the company for is none of those posts were ever restricted although they only loosely were on a tech issue.
Well the HiWired blog is gone but next speech issues haven’t:
On Thursday, Cuban blogger Claudia Cadelo, was summoned to appear at the Interior Ministry, which is in charge of domestic security. A day earlier, Yoani Sanchez, the nation’s most prominent blogger, was told by authorities that her activities had “crossed the limits of tolerance,” and was told she couldn’t hold a planned meeting this Saturday of local bloggers, according to Ms. Sanchez.
Ms. Sanchez, who writes a blog called “Generation Y,” is at the forefront of a small group of bloggers in Cuba who chronicle life on the island and occasionally vent against its government, which was run for the past 49 years by Fidel Castro until he stepped aside earlier this year for health reasons and handed power to his brother Raúl. Ms. Sanchez was the subject of a front-page story in The Wall Street Journal in December, 2007. The 33-year-old wife and mother has won several awards recently for her work, and was named one of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people this year.
Babalu Blog simply owns this story just keep scrolling. He also has a post of round up links to other blogs here.
You know it an odd coincidence that our friends on the left declare President Bush as the great repressor of rights yet people have made a fortune calling him a Nazi, terrorist, idiot et al. Yet it is almost impossible to avoid people going after him in film, print and TV on a daily basis. These people are lionized by the left and called speakers of truth to power.
However it always seems like places like Cuba , Iran, China, North Korea, Syria et-al that tend to actually jail people for their opinions don’t seem to rate that treatment or even publicity for those jailed. I suspect acknowledgment of such violates their political beliefs which seem more like a religion every day.
It brings to mind two Doctor Who quotes the first from Face of Evil:
You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that need altering.
On Feb. 6, 2006, three Pakistanis died in Peshawar and Lahore during violent street protests against Danish cartoons that had satirized the Prophet Muhammad. More such mass protests followed weeks later. When Pakistanis and other Muslims are willing to take to the streets, even suffer death, to protest an insulting cartoon published in Denmark, is it fair to ask: Who in the Muslim world, who in Pakistan, is ready to take to the streets to protest the mass murders of real people, not cartoon characters, right next door in Mumbai?
Good question, its been asked on the right for years and ignored, lets see if that changes when asked by a columnist of the New York Times?
Oh and if you are too young to understand the title of this post read this.
ERIC POSNER: “Obama supporters should probably root for Bush to issue pardons. Bush might be just ornery enough to refuse.”
Here is the long version of my answer:
Two interesting things on this thread.
First seems the absolute assumption that that “torture” took place and was sanctioned by the White House. Apparently everybody here has seen Clear and Present Danger enough to know it is an absolute fact.
I have a young friend who I’ve known for most of his life. He was stationed at Gitmo and he said there was plenty of abuse going on, but it was of the guards by the prisoners who knew that the guards had to take it. The loose use of the word torture is particularly offensive when we’ve within the last week seen actual examples of it from our foes that carry no ambiguity, but seem to provoke less outrage among our intellectual class.
If is certainly possible that laws were broken and both those arguing for pardons and those arguing for prosecution have strong credible arguments in their favor. Laws are like muscles if not used they rot but personally I’m not inclined to go after people who successfully protected my family from attacks such as we’ve seen in India this week.
All of this being said here is the overriding consideration why, in my opinion the president-elect will not move on this issue regardless of what the current administration does. Frankly it’s rather crass.
You can take this to the bank: Any successful attack on American soil during an Obama administration is going to be wholly owned by not only that administration but the Democratic party.
It won’t matter how diligent or responsible the administration has been. It won’t matter that they acted in good faith which any fair minded person must assume. It won’t matter if like Hornblower in Hornblower during the Crisis members of the current administration and people who understand how hard it is to be right every time rush to their defense. The public will remember who succeeded in protecting the country and who failed particularly if a major population center is successfully hit.
Any kind of trials will be drawn out affairs and would likely be still going on during a successful attack. How much worse will it be for those who failed to protect the country if those who succeeded in protecting the nation are on trial during their failure? Would they risk it? Would they even consider it? Considering the history of the president elect who has a history of avoiding risk I think not. If his attacks on the current administration were mere rhetoric then he will never take the risk. If they were not I don’t know if he would have the moral courage to proceed and even if he did would people below him with less courage urge him against the risk?.
I just can’t see it, but it is moot because I think the current president will offer those pardons. He has already proved his willingness to take the slings and arrows of those who he has protected. I think he is comfortable enough in his skin to take one final hit for his country and for those loyal to him. The fanatical haters will just be louder but it would it would save the incoming administration from an additional burden. It would also keep national secrets from coming out at any trials. I think the current president has the guts to do it, but it will be a close thing since there is just enough of a that smirk in him to want to watch those who follow him stew in it.
Back in the days when I was blogging for HiWired I tried to show a bit of restraint when talking about the acts of some people.
However one of the great advantages of a personal blog is the lack of said necessity, so lets say some things bluntly:
The people involved in the attacks in India are barbarians.
Those in Islam who support and finance such attacks are barbarians.
Those who excuse such attacks as justified are idiots and/or supporters of barbarians.
Those who try to equate our troops to the killers in India and those terrorists who target civilians in Iraq are either complete dupes of barbarians at best or at worst allies of murders are barbarians.
If someone tries to make such a comparison to you as a reasonable argument or attempts to justify and defend the attackers but will happily condemn President Bush as the greatest murderer since Hitler then; they are not serious people (although they will think themselves so), ignorant about history (though they will think themselves not) and disinterested in the lives of others (although they will say otherwise) and their opinions should be either ignored or Nelsoned like so:
This will likely enrage them more then any bloodshed.
If your value system justifies such attacks and actions then you need a new value system.
If your culture justifies such attacks then it is inferior and you need a new one too.
You have a perfect right to any of the above beliefs if you want to hold them, it doesn’t make you any less of an idiot.
If you don’t like my characterization of any of these things then let me paraphrase Truman and say, “Stop supporting barbarians and murders and I will stop characterizing your beliefs like that”.
I was thinking of the attacksonMormonsinCalifornia after Proposition 8 won by about the same margin that the President Elect won. There is an awful lot of self justification on the left for their actions and a lot of outrage on the right over the treatment of people. Why gets me is why anyone is surprised by any of it.
First of all consider before the election we were given the mantra that if (then) Sen Obama lost the election therewouldberioting. Thus the legions of the left telegraphed that they would not be good losers.
Second of all the lack of attacks on Black Churches and too some degree Catholic Churches are due to the political ally rule. As the Black church is part of the democratic coalition it can’t be attacked or protested, the Catholic Church particularly in LA is left leaning and also highly Hispanic. The left’s history shows that any behavior of a person or group can be excused if it is a political ally. See CongressmanWilliam Jefferson D-LA and President William Jefferson Clinton misogyny of.
Third of all the lack of attacks on Islamic Mosques are simple cowardice. See the Mohammad Cartoon of South Park where the network had no problem going after Jesus in the episode but were afraid of having their throats cut if an image of Mohammad was shown being handed a helmet with a fish on it by Peter Griffin. Cowards never attack those who will fight back.
Finally although my fellow Catholics in general and Christians in particular may dispute the definition of Mormons as Christians, no believing Christian should be surprised at the attacks on Christians in general and/or Mormons in particular and the tact support of the media on said attacks. This is part of the job description of Christianity see John 13:16 and John 15 18-22. Any Christian who doesn’t understand this doesn’t understand what Christianity is.
This doesn’t mean that one shouldn’t opposed this behavior. One of my rules of life is the right thing is generally the smart thing too. Our friends on the left should refrain and condemn this behavior because it is wrong but if they won’t for that reason they should oppose it because if it smart to do so. They only need a swing of 4 percent in a future election and they have the media and most of the culture on their side. They are forgetting the lessons of history and will only turn people against them particularly in the privacy of the ballot box. People who feel repressed concerning their opinions tend to get their release in their voting booth. The left’s “fairness” argument is their strongest argument that should be their primary one.
Job description or no we on the right who supported prop 8 should take every opportunity to take the over the top behavior and intimidation of the left and hold it up in the light for all to see. The justifications of such behavior out there would make those at any Nazi, KKK, National Party of South Africa pre 1990, Know Nothing or Al-Qaeda member proud. Fair mined people will see that.