…to this post. I want to address something I mentioned in my last post:

Remember it isn’t the souls of the aborted that are at risk, it is the souls of those who are involved in the action itself and its support. They should be our primary concern and the focus of our prayers.

When I had my discussion with my nephew concerning religion he jumped all over this in the same way the Ebon the atheist does on his blog:

And Lewis has it exactly right: if death before the age of accountability means instant no-effort salvation, then the majority of the population of Heaven will be made up of people who died in infancy or very early childhood and never had a life on Earth at all. This is even more true if, as many Christians believe, even a single-celled embryo is a person with a soul. By some estimates, as many as 75% of all conceptions end in spontaneous abortion, usually before the woman ever realizes she is pregnant – a vast number of souls that will get into Heaven for free, while the majority of the unlucky few who happen to survive into adulthood will end up consigned to eternal torment.

The bizarre, ludicrous illogic of this system turns notions of morality on their head. The logical conclusion from these beliefs would be that it is a morally praiseworthy act to kill children, thereby guaranteeing their salvation. The corollary is that life on Earth is a terrible misfortune and something to be avoided at all costs, veering extremely close to the ancient Gnostic belief systems condemned as heresy by the church. Why in the world would God even bother to create the Earth if “human birth is important chiefly as the qualification for human death”? Why not just create a race of beings that all die in the womb and have their salvation assured? Lewis mentions these glaring facts, but never addresses their implications for Christianity.

His earlier George W. Bush rant not withstanding; this is a solid question that deserves an answer so let me give the one I gave to my nephew who echoed the argument that an abortionist made concerning this about sending souls to heaven. Lets take them in order. First of all there is a reason why the commandments are in order. And commandment number one is:

You shall have no other Gods but me!

The act of taking what belongs to God or the attempt to make oneself God is a big sin, maybe even THE great sin, not only does the abortionist violate this sin but he brings millions to that same brink and establishes it. The number of abortions still is dwarfed by the number of births and the number of people actually alive. The establishment of it as a societal has the potential to damn far more people over the course of decades than the number of souls that avoid judgment. No person makes this argument for their own sake, they make it to shut other people up.

The second point in his argument is the “spontaneous abortion” argument. Scientifically there is no question when a human life begins. At conception you have a human. Thus as a society “human” rights need to proceed from that point. Some might want to play “gotcha” games on the moment the soul exists, but that leads to the danger of giving an out to play with human life.

We are actually warned in scripture that this is the case, remember the ending of the parable:

When it was evening the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Summon the laborers and give them their pay, beginning with the last and ending with the first.’ When those who had started about five o’clock came, each received the usual daily wage. So when the first came, they thought that they would receive more, but each of them also got the usual wage. And on receiving it they grumbled against the landowner, saying, ‘These last ones worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us, who bore the day’s burden and the heat.’ He said to one of them in reply, ‘My friend, I am not cheating you. Did you not agree with me for the usual daily wage? Take what is yours and go. What if I wish to give this last one the same as you? (Or) am I not free to do as I wish with my own money? Are you envious because I am generous?Matt 20:8-15

Again we have the protest of God methods the foolishness of the Cross as Paul says:

For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with the wisdom of human eloquence, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its meaning. The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Cor 17:18

Mr. Ebon also forgets the gift of free will. I ask him if he would prefer a life where he is fed, clothed and taken care of but doesn’t have free will? That is the gift that that a full life gives us, we are given the chance to make our own choices, for good or ill. One can’t create saints without the potential to create sinners. Would Ebon consider himself lucky if his free will was removed? Would you?

The killing children argument I’ve already covered above, but I would also mention that the primary duty of the individual is to send oneself to heaven. Remember this passage:

“Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.” Matthew 10:37

This should cover the argument. Like most liberals we see the cry against an unfair world. One would be more wise to spend one’s time living in it instead.

(Update 4: Major update here.)

People seemed to have their knickers in twist over the Nancy Pelosi’s meeting with the pope. It reminds me of Christopher Hitchens over Mother Teresa’s willingness to meet less than fully savory characters. So the result from the meeting produces no surprise to me:

Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday told U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, a Catholic who supports abortion rights, that Catholic politicians have a duty to protect life “at all stages of its development,” the Vatican said.

Pelosi is the first top Democrat to meet with Benedict since the election of Barack Obama, who won a majority of the Catholic vote despite differences with the Vatican on abortion.

The Vatican released remarks by the pope to Pelosi, saying Benedict spoke of the church’s teaching “on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death.” That is an expression often used by the pope when expressing opposition to abortion.

Benedict said all Catholics—especially legislators, jurists and political leaders—should work to create “a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development.”

Part of the job description of any Catholic Priest is to welcome but correct sinners. This is what the pope has done and don’t underestimate the effect even a gentle in person correction by the pope can have if there is any spark of Catholic left in the system. Continue reading “How about that, the pope acting like…The Pope”

…and it has nothing to do with anything the administration or the Palestinian authority or anything anyone is saying about the church or even the job hunt which is going poorly.

Miracles happen, but this means blogging may be kinda light today.

But if you need a quick smile what appears to be the climax of Rich’s comic strip might help.

I sure hope it is available in book form sooner or later. It would make an awesome audio as well

My religious series continues. Previous chapters are here, here, here and here.

Having decided the parameters for belief we now come to Jesus Christ.

When discussing Christ there are two big questions to deal with, his existence and if he is or is not a divine being.

When dealing with this question one mistake that our Protestant friends tend to make is using the Bible as proof of both. The Book can’t be proof of itself, that is: One can’t argue that a book is true because the book itself says so.

We can however in this step of our inquiry take the bible as a collection of ancient text that actually holds up quite well in many details.

There is dispute about the date of the authorship of the various New Testament books We can establish that what we would call Christians existed during the reign of Claudius and Nero in the 1st Century AD we also note that there no Roman record of Christians existing at the time of the reign of Augustus Caesar or before, nor any roman historical record stating this.

This tends to support the biblical time line which specifically mentions both Augustus Caesar and Tiberius Caesar. Mind you at this point we are only trying to establish the existence of Christ not the divinity thereof. Continue reading “Chapter 3 Christ”

6:02 a.m. The Bill Clinton quote wouldn’t have happened on my watch.

6:03 a.m. Where is congress on the list asks Barnicle? All agree. I say where is Frank and Dodd?

6:05 a.m. The drunken finance minister who was featured in news you can’t use has resigned. The power of Willie is established internationally.

6:12 a.m. These people are not serious about the bill. Spend a weekend and read the bill before voting.

6:32 a.m. We aren’t all Kenyans and we will see how it all works out.

6:34 a.m. What did get us out of the depression? Unemployment mixed bag, Politically successful, WWII military Kenyans’

6:41 a.m. Joe: We can’t grow if we don’t make things. What constitutes making things?

7:05 a.m. Joe: We have brought back the welfare state

7:36 a.m. Interesting take on history and the responsibilities of wealth by Mika’s father Dr. Brzezinski.

7:41 a.m. Brzezinski: We must define our goals narrowly in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

7:49 a.m. Pat: Will Obama be able to stop an attack on Israel? Brzezinski: The Iranians can’t hit Israel, they can take revenge on us. My take, Israel isn’t going to die just to please the Obama administration.

8:10 a.m. Pick on the Germans’ day, the we can’t win caucus seems to be in session.

8:25 a.m. New York times making money off the Obama election well they have to raise revenue somehow, maybe they can make their own coins.

8:29 a.m. The New York Times is doing well, pay no attention to the layoffs or the stock value plunge.

8:39 a.m. The Axelrods have much more important things on their minds than politics. Epilepsy

8:52 a.m. You can see the doctor just wants to recommend Abortion but can’t bring herself to do so on the air.

I’ve been thinking of Yogi Berra today for no particular reason. It is my opinion that he is one of the best if not the best catcher who ever played the game. 3 MVP an ungodly number of rings and just smart baseball all around. Just check out the stats here.

Of course today people forget how good a player he was because of the Yogi-isms. That way of speaking that has made him known to a new generation that never saw him play.

This Aflac commercial is one of my favorites.

Yeah I know he’s a Yankee but how can one not like Yogi?

Again looking back at that 2004 season the news this week was A-Rod going to the Yankees. Baseball Musings said the following:

Soriano for Rodriguez is a great deal, especially since money doesn’t matter to the Yankees. It’s the wrong move in terms of defense; Jeter is the one who should move. And of course, who’s going to play 2nd?

Actually, they are going to score so many runs they can probably get by without a second baseman. A murder’s row of A-Rod, Giambi and Sheffield (in any order you choose), surrounded by Jeter, Posada, Williams and Matsui. All Lofton and the new second baseman have to do is play defense.

You think Boston fans are a little upset?

He linked to Bambino’s Curse which had this to say…

The word according to Theo,

“We talk about a player’s makeup, but what we want to know is, `Is he a good teammate?'” — Theo Epstein (Holley, Globe).

As it shall be spoken, so it will be done.

With the advantage of hindsight we note that the Red Sox have won two world series since the A-Rod trade. That is two more than the Yankees have made it to.

Since both boys made the honor roll celebrated by taking them to foxwoods to see Frank Caliendo. (Tickets were pretty low for the cheap seats). Not only was he show pretty funny but he stayed after the show and signed everything and took pictures with everyone who wanted to.

His tour tickets are available here. It’s worth a visit.

6:12 a.m. We are re-defining bi-partisan apparently to the state of Maine

6:14 a.m Joe says its ok if it whats to do that but don’t play the game.

6:16 a.m. I’m not going to be the sap says Obama, As I’ve pointed out we are instead

6:21 a.m. Sen Burris: The Senator from Morning Joe

6:31 a.m. Thanks to Frank’s act whenever Mrs. Clinton goes on a trip as Sec of State I smile.

6:41 a.m. It’s now all about the elections of 2010

6:58 a.m. Not a bad list but where are Cleveland and Polk on the top. Dead right about Buchanan my list is here. You can tell that historians wrote this rather than pundits. My list here

7:10 a.m. You know when Willie is given the chance to be serious he’s pretty good.

7:28 a.m. Obama mania in Japan oh joy, can they have him?

7:30 a.m. Andrea Mitchel even when she is 10,000 miles away I can’t avoid her.

7:53 a.m. Saving money by buying new presses who woulda thunk it?

Mass for My Uncle this morning that will do it for Joe today.