As I’ve been writing a lot about the Kim Davis situation I was very interested in how it would come up in the Presidential debate on Wednesday, however the subject didn’t so much point out the differences in the GOP position as it pointed out the seemingly contrary positions of both media and the selective enforcement of federal law and selective interpretation of the constitution depending on who it involves.

First lets look at the Kim Davis exchange:

Jake Tapper: I want to turn back to Governor Huckabee. Governor Huckabee, last week, you held a rally for a county clerk in Kentucky who was jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, as I don’t need to tell you. You’ve called what happened to Kim Davis, that clerk, “an example of the criminalization of Christianity.” There are several people on the stage who disagree with you. Governor Bush, for example, says that that clerk is sworn to uphold the law. Is Governor Bush on the wrong side of the criminalization of Christianity?

Gov Mike Huckabee: No, I don’t think he’s on the wrong side of such an issue. Jeb is a friend. I’m not up here to fight with Jeb or to fight with anybody else. But I am here to fight for somebody who is a county clerk elected under the Kentucky constitution that 75 percent of the people of that state had voted for that said that marriage was between a man and a woman. The Supreme Court in a very, very divided decision decided out of thin air that they were just going to redefine marriage. It’s a decision that the other justices in dissent said they didn’t have and there wasn’t a constitutional shred of capacity for them to do it. I thought that everybody here passed ninth-grade civics. The courts cannot legislate. That’s what Roberts said. But heck, it’s what we learned in civics. The courts can’t make a law. They can interpret one. They can review one. They can’t implement it. They can’t force it. But here’s what happened: Because the courts just decided that something was going to be and people relinquished it and the other two branches of government sat by silently — I thought we had three branches of government, they were all equal to each other, we have separation of powers, and we have checks and balances. If the court can just make a decision and we just all surrender to it, we have what Jefferson said was judicial tyranny. The reason that this is a real issue that we need to think about

Jake Tapper:Thank you, Governor.

Gov Mike Huckabee: No, no. Let me finish this one thought, Jake. I haven’t gotten that much time, so I’m going to take just what little I can here. We made accommodation to the Fort Hood shooter to let him grow a beard. We made accommodations to the detainees at Gitmo — I’ve been to Gitmo, and I’ve seen the accommodations that we made to the Muslim detainees who killed Americans. You’re telling me that you cannot make an accommodation for an elected Democrat county clerk from Rowan County, Kentucky? What else is it other than the criminalization of her faith and the exaltation of the faith of everyone else who might be a Fort Hood shooter or a detainee at Gitmo?

Jake Tapper:  Well, I’m not telling you that, Governor. But Governor Bush is, because he — because he disagrees. He thinks that Kim Davis swore to uphold the law. You disagree? You’re not — you don’t…

Gov Jeb Bush: I don’t think — you’re not stating my views right.

Jake Tapper: OK. Please do.

Gov Jeb Bush: I think there needs to be accommodation for someone acting on faith. Religious conscience is — is — is a first freedom. It’s — it’s a powerful part of our — of our Bill of Rights. And, in a big, tolerant country, we should respect the rule of law, allow people in — in — in this country — I’m a — I was opposed to the decision, but we — you can’t just say, “well, they — gays can’t get married now.” But this woman, there should be some accommodation for her conscience, just as there should be for people that are florists that don’t want to participate in weddings, or bakers. A great country like us should find a way to have accommodations for people so that we can solve the problem in the right way. This should be solved at the local level…

Jake Tapper: You did…

Gov Jeb Bush: And so we do agree, Mike.

Gov Chris Christie: I was —

Jake Tapper: Governor, you said, quote, “she is sworn to uphold the law.”

Gov Chris Christie: She is, and so if she, based on conscience, can’t sign that — that marriage license, then there should be someone in her office to be able to do it, and if the law needs to be changed in the state of Kentucky, which is what she’s advocating, it should be changed.

Ok so we have a question of “she’s sworn to uphold the law” and “there needs to be an accommodation based on faith” presumably based on the 1st amendment but oddly enough when Mr. Tapper asked this question on federal drug laws

Jake Tapper: Senator Paul, Governor Christie recently said, quote, “if you’re getting high in Colorado today,” where marijuana has been legalized, “enjoy it until January 2017, because I will enforce the federal laws against marijuana.” Will you?

The arguments on enforcement suddenly changed.  While Senator Paul invoked the 10th amendment suggesting the feds had crossed into a state issue. During his answer he mentioned a person on stage who used pot at one time. It turned out to be Jeb who had this to say. (all emphasis mine)

Gov Jeb Bush: So, 40 years ago, I smoked marijuana, and I admit it. I’m sure that other people might have done it and may not want to say it in front of 25 million people. My mom’s not happy that I just did. That’s true. And here’s the deal. Here’s the deal. We have — we have a serious epidemic of drugs that goes way beyond marijuana. What goes on in Colorado, as far as I’m concerned, that should be a state decision. But if you look at the problem of drugs in this — in this society today, it’s a serious problem. Rand, you know this because you’re campaigning in New Hampshire like all of us, and you see the epidemic of heroin, the overdoses of heroin that’s taking place. People’s families are — are being torn apart. It is appropriate for the government to play a consistent role to be able to provide more treatment, more prevention — we’re the state that has the most drug courts across every circuit in — in — in Florida, there are drug courts to give people a second chance. That’s the best way to do this.

Hold on a second. The laws concerning drugs are Federal laws, laws actually passed by the congress and signed by the president as opposed to the reinterpretation of a constitutional amendment.  How is it that Kim Davis a county clerk is “sworn to uphold the law” but public servants in the state of Colorado who are not claiming this has anything to do with religion, are not?

As the exchange continued. It got worse, after Jeb bush was pressed by Sen Paul on medical marijuana: again emphasis mine

Sen Rand Paul: Well, you vote — you oppose medical marijuana…

Gov Jeb Bush: Here’s the deal. No, I did not oppose when the legislature passed the bill to deal with that very issue. That’s the way to solve this problem. Medical marijuana on the ballot was opened up, there was a huge loophole, it was the first step to getting to a (inaudible) place. And as a citizen of Florida, I voted no.

So Jeb Bush believes Kim Davis “Is sworn to uphold the law” but didn’t oppose the state legislature in Florida passing a bill directly contradicting established federal law and apparently he’s not alone here.  (again emphasis mine)

Gov Chris Christie: And Senator Paul knows that that’s simply not the truth. In New Jersey, we have medical marijuana laws, which I supported and implemented. This is not medical marijuana. There’s goes as much — a further step beyond. This is recreational use of marijuana. This is much different. And so, while he would like to use a sympathetic story to back up his point, it doesn’t work. I’m not against medical marijuana. We do it in New Jersey. But I’m against the recreational use against marijuana. If he wants to change the federal law, get Congress to pass the law to change it, and get a president to sign it.

So Christie, like Bush is willing to support and implement laws that contradict existing federal law, laws that he is sworn to uphold, and is willing to do this without claiming a religious or constitutional reason.  It sounds to me like “being sworn to uphold the law” apparently doesn’t apply if the law is supported by yuppies on the left or the MSM who are both widely in favor of legalizing medical marijuana.

 

Now let’s take a look at another subject. The Question of the 14th amendment and birthright citizenship came up, Mr. Trump (backed up by Senator Rand Paul) said scholars said no but when asked by Jake Tapper, Carly Fiorina (after making a great point concerning the Democrat’ desire to have this as an issue & not solve the problem said this: again emphasis mine

Carly Fiorina: …the truth is, you can’t just wave your hands and say “the 14th Amendment is gonna go away.” It will take an extremely arduous vote in Congress, followed by two-thirds of the states, and if that doesn’t work to amend the constitution, then it is a long, arduous process in court. And meanwhile, what will continue to go on is what has gone on for 25 years. With all due respect, Mr. Trump, we’ve been talking about illegal immigration for 25 years. San Francisco has been a sanctuary city since 1989. There are 300 of them. And meanwhile, what has happened? Nothing. The border remains insecure. The legal immigration system remains broken. Look, we know what it takes to secure a border. We’ve heard a lot of great ideas here. Money, manpower, technology…

So Mrs. Fiorina says that “you can’t just wave your hands and say “the 14th Amendment is going to go away, and an awful lot of media pundits and people like Jeb Bush are with her on this. But lets take a look at the text of it The 14th Amendment specifically section 1 which states:

Amendment XIV

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Nowhere in that entire section do you see the words “Gay Marriage” ( in fact you will not find the words “marriage” anywhere in the US Constitution)

Yet five members of the Supreme Court found a right to gay marriage that every other justice who ever served on the Supreme Court did not, one that overrode every single state constitution that said otherwise.

So my question is this? If justices can magically reinterpret the 14th Amendment to find a right to Gay Marriage in a document that doesn’t mention marriage, and the media claims it is legit how is it that one can’t interpret that same 14th amendment to say it doesn’t grant citizenship to people born here if their parents came illegally not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

Bottom line, apparently some in the GOP believe, with the media that when it comes to Kim Davis, the 14th Amendment is flexible and the enforcement of federal law is not, but some of those same people believe with the media, that when it comes to birthright citizenship and federal drug laws. The 14th Amendment is rigid and the enforcement of federal law is flexible.

Funny isn’t it?

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I know you can get the MSM for nothing, but that’s pretty much what they’re good for.

All day the only words you have heard on CNN have been along a single meme:

Who will go after Trump?

How will candidate X attack Trump?

Who will have the Courage to hit Trump?

There is one word for candidates who fall for this meme:

SUCKERS!

Granted CNN would love a dogfight for ratings but more importantly the media realizes one important thing.

Based on the Debate number from last time millions of people who normally don’t follow presidential debates will be watching.  A much greater number than normally follow the MSM’s news coverage.

That means that you dear candidate have a chance to do something you normally can’t.  Reach millions of people,  introduce yourself and define yourself to that new audience before the MSM gets to do so.  You can tout your record, bring up issues and note stories that make your case, stories that hurt the Democrats, stories the MSM spend their time ignoring.

They hate that

Instead they want you defined as Trump’s opponent and nothing else.  They want you to be silent about your record, your plans, your issues.  The only thing the media wants the public to take from this debate about you is “You hit trump”.

That not only gives the media a chance to define you later if you win the nomination but if by some chance you manage to land a fatal blow on Trump, there is the chance that you can provoke Trump to use his fortune to bring you & the GOP down, to give Democrats the general election.

That’s the final goal, help the Democrats win a general election, that’s what they’re all about.

 

You have been warned.

 

 

My thoughts on the debate, I think the strategic move for Romney people in crowd to be nice to Newt was cute. Newt proved that when he is not attacked he makes good points. Paul remains the same and I think gains in every debate because of the way he portrays himself, I think Santourm didn’t have good visuals but gave complete answers. He does better on substance than Style. Romney was crisp and remains so. The question remains if people actually believe him.

10:00 p.m. Am I the only guy who noticed the weird (How to identify a Mason via Monty Python) handshake. between Paul and Santorum?

9:51 p.m. I like the last question.

9:37 p.m. “As long as your an enemy of the US you are safe” Gingrich nails it.

9:34 p.m. Santorum states Syria is a puppet state of Iran, it’s absolutely true. Strangely enough Paul was right about the declaration of war bit, not about Iran in general

9:30 p.m. “Find the Biden position and do the opposite and you’ll be right 100% of the time.” Santorum mentions the green revolution.

9:22 p.m. I never thought I’d hear Ron Paul quote the “just war” theory of the church.

9:05 p.m. I must admit that Santorum’s answer on Arlen is something that never occurred to me. A much better answer than I had.

8:55 p.m. Government control of services lead to tyranny. Next having a good night.

8:50 p.m. The GOP candidates are hitting the “contraception” question out of the park, Newt and Mitt on Religious Freedom, Paul on immorality, and Rick on the ills of pre-marital sex.

8:45 p.m. Coming up faith and immigration, they’ll get to fast and furious sometime after a discussion of subsidies for Unicorn breeding.

8:41 p.m. Paul having a good debate.

8:39 p.m. good exchange on bailouts, Gingrich has better debates when Romney isn’t targeting him.

8:34 p.m. good question on auto bailout

8:31 p.m. Santorum refuses to pander on earmarks

8:22 p.m. The Catholic church is pulled out of adoption in Massachusetts, is Mitt really claiming social conservatism in Massachusetts? Please.

8:16 p.m. Gotta love Paul’s answer to the “fake” question.

8:09 p.m. Opening question on debt, good!

8:07 p.m. Good opening by Romney best of the 4

That means I’m putting in entries when the mood strikes me.

Guess who’s too busy for the next presidential debate:

GOP Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney will skip a March 1 debate in Atlanta sponsored by CNN and the Georgia Republican Party, CBS News/National Journal has learned.

“With eight other states voting on March 6th, we will be campaigning in other parts of the country and unable to schedule the CNN Georgia debate,” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said. “We have participated in 20 debates, including 8 from CNN.”

On a tactical level it makes sense, use Newt and Paul attack Santorum and not be associated with “negative” campaigning.

On a strategic level it is a cataclysmic blunder. It creates the image of Romney as afraid and/or desperate.

Let me give Mitt Romney the advice I once gave to Herman Cain: HIRE JIMMIE BISE. At least you will have one adviser who knows how this stuff looks to real people.

Meanwhile while Romney ducks Santorum engages:

Rick’s not afraid to go 12 min with Hotair. If I’m the Romney Camp, i’d be very afraid

Update:
Apparently Santorum is now skipping the debate as well, the question is, did he decline before or after Romney? If before the Romney critique can be justly applied, if after then it’s a smart counter to keep from attack but it gives Newt an opening and that might also not be a good move.

update 2: It’s the same story updated to reflect Santorum too, that suggest that the Santorum decision came after the Romney one

“They are creatures of that miserable sort who loudly proclaim that torture is too good for their enemies and then give tea and cigarettes to the first wounded German pilot who turns up at the back door. Do what you will, there is going to be some benevolence, as well as some malice, in your patient’s soul. The great thing is to direct the malice to his immediate neighbours whom he meets every day and to thrust his benevolence out to the remote circumference, to people he does not know. The malice thus becomes wholly real and the benevolence largely imaginary.
Screwtape Letter 6

I love humanity, it’s people I can’t stand!
Lucy Van Pelt

If you’ve been following the coverage of last night’s debate you;ve seen the left beating their breasts on the cruelty of the tea party republicans based on a Wolf Blitzer’s hypothetical question concerning a sick person who didn’t buy health insurance.



Talking Points memo
and Morning Joe have both run with the clip contrasting the callous tea party people with their own love of humanity. Joe Scarborough and Mika made it a point to be shocked and disgusted the crowd’s reaction while scoffing at Congressman Paul’s assertion that community not government would take care of this imaginary person.

Strangely enough in all their self righteous bleating, they managed to ignore a more direct question concerning life and death posed by an Afghan Immigrant named Sahar Hekmati:

“As the next president of the United States, what will you do to secure safety and protection for the women and children of Afghanistan from the radicals?”

The murder and oppression of Afghan women is well documented.

Not a hypothetical person

This magazine cover made the Morning Joe crew very uncomfortable at the time, but the memories of that day somehow didn’t bubble up today, they were too concerned with hypothetical sick people than a reality in opposition to their Afghanistan position

This is not unusual for the left, we hear people with armed bodyguards decrying guns, we have people bemoaning their low tax rates as their company dodges taxes, we are scolded on global warming by people with giant carbon footprints.

The reaction today of our media betters and the left horribly shocked at the fate of a non existent person while holding a more nuanced position on the fate of Afghan women like Aisha speaks volumes.

After all to the left, beliefs speak louder than actions.

Some of the first members of the General Public to show up were these Ron Paul Fans who spoke to me

I’ve talked to a lot of voters here who disagree with Ron Paul, but I’ve yet to talk to a single one who doesn’t believe he is sincere or dishonest in his beliefs. That is worth an awful lot in NH.

Bottom line: Bachmann wins, Cain remains solid, Newt and Santourm help themselves, Romney remains steady Pawlenty doesn’t help himself enough, Paul is Paul

9:57 p.m. Romney strong answer all are better than Obama

9:55 p.m. Complementing Palin never hurts smart move Pawlenty

9:53 p.m. I think Herman Cain cements his spot in the top three after tonight and Bachmann firmly establishes herself in the top tier

9:49 p.m. Cain calls Libya a mess, he’s right.

9:48 p.m. Newt has really come on in the 2nd half.

9:46 p.m. Bachmann spiking the ball on Libya!

9:43 p.m. The Michelle Bachmann people next door just brought us drinks in the Herman Cain, good form!

9:37 p.m. Paul has articulated his positions but I don’t know if the GOP agrees with enough of it.

9:35 p.m. Newt has really done better as this debate has gone on.

9:34 p.m. Newt says Herman Cain is right.

9:33 p.m. John Nolte nails it: “Hi GOP: There’s a good reason Dems don’t submit to Fox News debates. Not cowardly, smart. Please learn.”

9:31 p.m. King is spinning the illegal immigration questions because a straight question helps the GOP

9:29 p.m. It really hurt the dems that the immigration question came from a LEGAL immigrant

9:27 p.m. Pawlenty says he is the most pro-life candidate in the race, Bachmann answers very strongly

9:25 p.m. Santourm is winning a lot of votes with this answer on abortion.

9:23 p.m. DADT mostly in favor of removing it.

9:21 p.m. Cain and Paul leave marriage to the states

9:18 P.m. Bachmann I’m running for president of the united states it’s not my job to go into states and campaign against individual laws.

9:12 p.m. Newt makes a good point on the reality of the war we are on.

9:10 p.m. Cain will actually get more votes from that answer than lose them.

9:08 p.m Cain: I do not believe in Sharia Law in American courts, I believe in American law in American courts

9:07 p.m. Santourm talks faith and reason

9:05 p.m. Bachmann with another good answer, she has really helped herself tonight?

9:04 p.m. Romney seems polished on a debater

9:02 p.m. Detailed answer on Social Security from Herman Cain

9:00 p.m. Cain bluntly says that Medicare has to be restructured because otherwise it will be our grandchildren thrown off the bridge.

8:58 p.m. Santorum tells people that under Obama medicine would be rationed.

8:57 p.m. Gingrich explains the “Right wing social engineering” stuff.

8:55 p.m. Paul would save medicare to cut the military industrial complex and allow folks to opt out.

8:53 p.m. I’d like slightly loner breaks, not enough time for a necessary break

8:49 p.m. Romney is going long on going to the states, not what we should cut, but what we should keep.

8:47 p.m. King asks Paul what he would cut? What wouldn’t he cut? That’s a ball grooved over the plate for him.

8:44 p.m. Pawlenty suggests partnering with the private sector on the space program.

8:41 p.m. Santorum: All the government did was give the company to the Unions.

8:40 p.m. It looks odd for people to be staring at the other screen.

8:36 p.m. Cain on Tarp: When TARP was proposed I was willing to go along with it but then when the government picked winner and losers I’m out.

8:31 p.m. Newt: Why would you want to be California instead of Texas.

8:31 p.m. Newt De-fund the NLRB

8:30 p.m. I listen to Rush Limbaugh

8:27 p.m. Pawlenty: I’m not for being a chump

8:26 p.m. Ron Paul: As long as we weaken our currency our jobs will go overseas.

8:23 p.m. Herman Cain on the Tea Party, talks about how to create jobs.

8:22 p.m. Michelle Bachmann calls out the media on the Tea Party

8:21 p.m. Santourm I got 70 votes to end a federal entitlement

8:19 p.m. Newt to be serious about defeating Obamacare we have to win the house and senate with larger majorities

8:17 p.m. King is pressing Pawlenty on his Obamneycare business.

8:15 p.m. Romney: ” I will grant a waver to all states for Obamacare”

8:10 p.m. Romney: “He (Obama) didn’t create the recession, he made it worse”, “This president has failed…”

8:08 p.m. Too long answer by Pawlenty, not a bad answer but long.

8:07 p.m. Rick Santorum calls the democratic program “oppressive”

8:05 p.m. Herman Cain on jobs. We need the engine called the private sector, uncertainty is killing this economy

8:03 p.m. Herman Cain; I’m not a politician I’m a problem solver

8:03 p.m. Paul has fewer children but has delivered a whole lot more

8:02 p.m. Gingrich calls it the Obama depression

8:02 p.m. Santourm counts kids Bachmann trumps with the foster children

8:00 p.m CNN not giving opening statements but giving a sentence

7:53 p.m. Didn’t realize Michelle Bachmann was so short

Still can’t get in but managed to get on the net using my super secret DaTechGuy powers to provide an update without a trip to McDonalds.

Got back to the campus 15 minutes after posting, (would have been faster but road construction is slowing things down quite a bit) Since I couldn’t get into the key building or get any kind of credential, I decided to do the next best thing. Find and interview voters.

I talked to all types of people from students, security people, locals, janitors and passers by including one young man who was volunteering for the Santorum campaign. He was the only local I talked to who had already picked a candidate.

Generally most of the people not working the election were planning to watch the Bruins this evening (some of the engineers were already working on how they would be able to catch the game) but all said the candidates had a shot at their votes, it was a question of position and honesty. The biggest thing that seemed to matter to those planning on voting (and several told me they were not) was consistency. They didn’t want to be lied to.

I asked the questions about the best NH campaigner they had seen and got Clinton and Reagan as the latest answers. So far none of the new guys had stood out to the people I spoke to other than the Santorum volunteer.

One final question I asked everyone I talked to on campus. “Has any reporter asked you what you thought?” The unanimous answer was no! It was Scott Brown’s victory party all over again. A lot of what you will see tonight is going to be highly choreographed by the campaigns (at least as much as possible) and spun to their best advantage. The one thing that can’t be are the voters. Once the supporters show up it will be impossible to figure out who is a plant and who is not. So the time to be asking voters is right now.

Yet in a campus with reporters everywhere you go nobody has thought to ask any of the voters I’ve talked to their opinion. I’ve asked a select few to contact me when things are all done to let me know if that changes. It will be interesting to see if the people paid to tell the story choose the processed food or the fresh stuff.