Keep your eye clear, and hit ’em where they ain’t

Willie Keeler

Four Years and six months ago I was in NH for a NRO event along with a lot of other bloggers and reporters after all of us watched one of the GOP primary debates that was notable for George Stephanopoulos suddenly asking Mitt Romney a question about contraception that had everyone, including Romney scratching their heads. It had not been an issue in the campaign nor in the country or years and while Roman Catholics will tell you artificial contraception is a sin to my knowledge Mormons have no problem with it.

That night everyone was talking about how weird the question but a few days later things became clear as the entire media jumped on this as an important issue.

You see many things were going badly in the economy, in foreign affairs and the folly of Obamacare were just starting to become apparent, the Democrats needed a distraction to protect the president so they pivoted bringing out an issue that had been settled for years to change the submit and hit republicans at the same time.

It’s sort of like the tactic used against Ted Williams in the 40’s called the Williams Shift repositioning players completely to change the dynamic of his hitting.

tedwilliamsshift It the same tactic used against David Ortiz today in an attempt to make those hits come with a little more difficulty.

While both Williams and Ortiz had occasional failures against the shift, in the end their skill levels were/are so superior that the shift could not stop them from hitting through it and as both demonstrated regularly if the ball is off the wall or out of the park no amount of shifting is going to make any difference.

Alas for the GOP Mitt Romney was no Ted Williams or David Ortiz. Romney being Romney and the GOP being the GOP, they fell hook line and sinker for this nonsense hitting directly into the shift and giving the media exactly what they wanted. It was one of a series of foolish and timid moves that turned what should have been a very easy election for the GOP into the disaster that the next four years of Barack Obama became.

Fast forward to 2016. Hillary Clinton has had the worst week in the history of history, the attempt to portray health questions as a conspiracy theory have failed. Leak after leak makes her look bad. The polls have gone south, Trump has bested her in a televised forum and thanks to his new campaign team has not only avoided mistakes but gotten positive press and cultural coverage that even playing the David Duke card has not been able to counter and if that’s not bad enough ISIS continues to advance, the refugee crisis continues to fester and Obamacare exchanges are dropping like flies What does one do if you are the palace guard for Democrats mainstream media?

Why you play the “shift” card and trot out birtherism.

The fact that Barack Obama has barely four months in office and that it’s an issue that nobody cares about doesn’t matter. The media needs to change the subject so suddenly the entire press corps decides there is no bigger issue to settle and they will not stop asking about it until Trump satisfies them.

In other words the shift is on and they are daring Trump to hit it over or through them counting on the fact that despite his media skills he is not enough of a Ted Williams or David Ortiz to successfully hit through the shift.

But while it’s true that Donald Trump is no Williams or Ortiz, he’s also no Mitt Romney and his new campaign team of Breitbart’s Stephen Bannon and Kelly Conway are not the normal GOP consultants advising him to hit into the shift and take their chances.

Instead Trump announced a press conference to address the issue, the MSM rushed to cover it live (something that they have been a lot less enthusiastic to do since he became the nominee) ready to take his statement and pound him with question after question, furthermore as he was apparently “running late” they continued to promote the event to ensure the maximum viewership when he did make his statement…

…and then this happened

The media found themselves giving their audience 20 minutes of military heroes endorsing Trump on live TV before he finally came on Camera to say

“Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it.”

Not only did Trump get the media to cover his endorsements but he got them to cover live his pronouncement that “birtherism” was a construct of the Hillary Clinton campaign. (a Statement spin not withstanding backed up by on CNN by a Clinton campaign manager but by a respected veteran journalist former McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief James Asher.

A story repeated on the McClatchy site yesterday

“During the 2008 Democratic primary, Sid Blumenthal visited the Washington Bureau of McClatchy Co.,” Asher said in an email Friday to McClatchy, noting that he was at the time the investigative editor and in charge of Africa coverage.

“During that meeting, Mr. Blumenthal and I met together in my office and he strongly urged me to investigate the exact place of President Obama’s birth, which he suggested was in Kenya. We assigned a reporter to go to Kenya, and that reporter determined that the allegation was false.

“At the time of Mr. Blumenthal’s conversation with me, there had been a few news articles published in various outlets reporting on rumors about Obama’s birthplace. While Mr. Blumenthal offered no concrete proof of Obama’s Kenyan birth, I felt that, as journalists, we had a responsibility to determine whether or not those rumors were true. They were not.”

Blumenthal, who worked in the White House with President Bill Clinton and later was employed by the Clinton Foundation, could not be reached Friday but said in an email to The Boston Globe, “This is false. Period.”

In other words the Trump campaign instead of hitting into the shift as he might have been inclined under the old management team, poked the ball into the empty left field for an easy double.

The fit this gave the entire MSM was epic which comes from a single miscalculation.

You don’t have to be a David Ortiz or a Ted Williams to beat the shift, you just have to be good enough to go the other way and hit the ball where they ain’t.

And Trump is.

Update: Don Surber adds a bit of Irony:

For a decade, the city wanted the grand post office turned into a hotel. Trump did it. Today was the opening of the hotel. That was the reason for the event — not to discuss birtherism, which was the Clinton Camp’s topic of the day.


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Lost in all the talk about the Cajun Navy and the job that they are doing are a fact that everyone outside of Louisiana seems to have missed that is perfectly illustrated by Pat Austin of DaTechGuy’s Magnificent Seven

A week after the cataclysmic event, the national media is slowly beginning to notice that Louisiana is flooding.

The scale of the disaster is huge:

In Livingston Parish, 87% of the homes there flooded.  In Baton Rouge, at least 40,000 homes are believed to have flooded.  Most of these people don’t have flood insurance.  The numbers are staggering.

Livingston Parish’s web site is here According to Wikipedia:  Livingston Parish Louisiana is 703 square miles just under 58% of the size of the state of Rhode Island, with over 100,000 people living there, and that’s just one parish in Louisiana.

Rod Dreher wrote about it at the time with a headline:  What the Hell is Wrong with the National Media:

The sheriff of Livingston Parish is saying that over 100,000 people in his parish alone lost everything they own. But hey, on CNN, Adele’s not Beyoncé, a sportscaster is on TV in his drawers, and Donald Trump is hearing things. Haw haw!

It’s not just them. On the CBS News webpage as I type this, the lead story is the arrest of a suspect in the murder of Muslims in Queens. If you want to find out the latest in what is shaping up to be one of the nation’s worst-ever natural disasters, you have to scroll way down, past several Olympics stories (including an explainer of why the water in Rio pools turned green), a piece on Hillary’s promise to love Scranton, a piece about a California fire that destroyed 175 structures and left “dozens of families homeless,” and a piece about a New York woman who says her head felt like it was going to explode when she was struck by lightning.

Look, nothing against the lighting-strike lady or those dozens of California families who are without homes tonight. But guess what, CBS? In Ascension Parish, just south of Baton Rouge, 15,000 homes and business are underwater!  

and he followed up a week later noting that even when they bothered to get around to it now that Trump and Obama has visited it still doesn’t reflect how bad things are

 

I watched a report on NBC News last night about what we’re going through here, and was struck by the enormous distance between what they showed on that short clip, and the reality that people here see every day. It is much, much worse than most Americans know (see this for one glimpse, and imagine this multiplied by tens of thousands). The need is so great that there is no way this or any government could respond effectively to it on their own.

There is a simple reason for this and Ed Driscoll nailed it a bit ago

there’s no political angle to beat up Republicans, when the state’s governor is a Democrat, and so is the president.

Or as Jim Geraghty put it 

If you view the national news media, based in New York, Washington, Los Angeles and a handful of other cities, as way too monolithic in its political views and driven by conscious and subconscious agendas, the half-hearted-at-best interest in these stories isn’t that hard to explain. These stories aren’t easily used to advance the narrative that Republicans are bad and Democrats are good.

This is cause and effect at its finest, the flooding and destruction in Louisiana is not helpful to the media’s cause, thus the effects of said disaster, the suffering, the homelessness, even among poor blacks who might be expected to vote democrat simply doesn’t count.

This is what our media culture has become and at National Review a commentator asks the obvious question:

It’s great that we all realize this. But what does one actually do?

That’s on each one of us.


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I was at Lucianne.com looking for ideas for a post when I noticed these two pieces within five posts of each other that were interesting. One pushing a Reuters story from the 19th:

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The other posting a mediate story saying the exact opposite:

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I thought they would make an interesting contrast so I tried to pull up both stories, the Mediaite story dated today came up easy.

However when I tried to click on the Reuters link I kept getting “page not found”.

I tried a search for the title and found multiple results such as this one at Forbes:

Trump Visits Baton Rouge, Despite Governor’s Request Not To

We welcome him to Louisiana…but not for a photo-op,’ the Democratic governor said.


U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and his running mate toured the flood-damaged city of Baton Rouge on Friday, despite the Democratic Louisiana governor’s urging not to make political stops in areas affected by recent deadly rains.

Trump’s motorcade drove past piles of possessions and building materials that had been ripped out of flooded homes en route to Greenwell Springs Baptist Church in a flood-ravaged portion of East Baton Rouge Parish.

“You’re all going to be fine, you’re going to be fine,” Trump told several dozen supporters gathered outside, many asking for autographs and selfies.

But for the life of me I couldn’t find the story at Reuters.  So I went to the Reuters site and looked for the story.  There was no sign of it, but I DID find this story, with a time stamp a few hours later with this title:

Trump tours flooded Louisiana, Obama to visit next week

And when I looked at the body of the story it seemed awfully…familiar (emphasis mine)

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump toured flood-battered Louisiana on Friday, shrugging off the Democratic state governor’s plea for politicians not to stop in areas affected by deadly rains.

President Barack Obama said he was also eager for a firsthand look at the damage done by floods that damaged more than 40,000 homes and killed at least 13 people, announcing plans to visit Baton Rouge on Tuesday.

Obama’s travel requires a massive retinue of Secret Service agents and assistance from local and state law enforcement officials, so the White House usually waits to visit disaster zones to avoid tying up police and emergency resources needed elsewhere.

On Friday, Trump’s motorcade drove past piles of possessions and building materials that had been ripped out of flooded homes en route to Greenwell Springs Baptist Church in a hard-hit portion of East Baton Rouge Parish.

“You’re going to be fine,” Trump told several dozen supporters gathered outside, many asking for autographs and selfies.

LA governor John Bel Edwards found his original statement had not gone over well and decided to revise it, apparently Reuters found that their old story noting the president would not be visiting for a while wasn’t playing well either so they decided to :

Delete the original story

Rewrite the headline to emphasize that president Obama was visiting Louisiana

Insert new copy into the old story suggesting president was ALWAYS going to visit while making an excuse for his failure to do so before the Trump visit.

Or put simply, the attempt to advance the narrative of Trump as an opportunist for visiting Louisiana  and Obama as responsible by not visiting had not only failed but proved inconvenient.  So Reuters decided, rather than write a new story to show the president’s change of heart and showing him forced to visit in reaction to Donald Trump’s move, decided to rewrite history to push the narrative of the president planning to visit this week all along.

There are many words to describe this, I choose “dishonest” and “dishonorable”.

As  Michael Goodwin quoted by Ed Driscoll at Instapundit put it American journalism is collapsing before our eyes,

Personally I disagree, I suspect American journalism was always like this, it’s just that thanks to the net it’s not possible to hide these trick anymore.

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You’ve heard about the media in general and twitter in particularly giveing Hillary Clinton “media privilege” well I think this visual of this tweet says it all

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I spotted this on instapundit and noticed the warning about sensitive material. Such a label of course automatically implies that what is beyond it is so terrible, so horrible, so beyond the pale that one risks crossing the bounds of propriety if one see it and it goes without saying such an image shouldn’t be shown to kids.

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I’m a bit confused concerning Donald Trump’s answers to Jake Tapper concerning David Duke and the KKK (Judging from Jake’s reaction he was pretty confused too by Trump’s response on what should have been a gimme question). It’s doubly confusing given that in the past he had no problem disavowing Duke in his reform party days and even did so on Friday when Chris Christie endorsed him.

Frankly given that past and the fact that Trump isn’t stupid, I presume his performance with Jake Tapper was the ultimate brain fart, but watching the media coverage there is something I don’t understand.

Without a question David Duke and the KKK should be disavowed at any and all times, but for all the fuss we are seeing today I seem to recall our current president had an association with a terrorist of his own.

One of the so-called smears the Obama campaign valiantly fought off was the claim Obama had a close relationship with unrepentant domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Team Obama said Ayers was merely “a guy who lived in Obama’s neighborhood,” and little more. Confronted with a report that Ayers and Dohrn had launched Obama’s career with a meet-and-greet fundraiser in the duo’s home, campaign spokesman — and future White House Press Secretary — Robert Gibbs issued a categorical denial

In fact Mr. Benson notes that one of CNN’s own reports states introductions took place at an interesting location 

“Where was that introduction made?  At the home of the sixties radicals, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.  The Obama campaign again says it is just a coincidence.”

Can you picture the story if Trump had visited David Dukes house or served on a board with him

I suppose the goodbye party for prominent Israel basher and Arafat apologist Rashid Khalidi, attended by Obama, Ayers and Dohrn, is also unworthy of discussion. That Khalidi himself hosted a fundraiser for Obama’s first Congressional campaign must be completely irrelevant, too.

Then there’s the pesky fact that Obama and Ayers served together on the board of the Woods Fund for three years—and continued to do so even after Ayers was quoted in the New York Times fondly recalling his days as a bomber, and despairing that he hadn’t “done more.” (This quote, the Obama fact sheet reminds us, comes from an interview that just happened to be published on 9/11—Ayers had made the incendiary remarks earlier. I don’t know about you, but that makes me feel a lot better). The funds Obama and Ayers helped control at the Woods Foundation funneled thousands of dollars into both Khalidi’s organization and the now-infamous Trinity United Church of Christ.

Let’s remember these are people who were actively involved in bombing that took place in the US targeting Americans and our current president spent years associating with these people.

Now this was an unenforced error that  Donald Trump did this to himself and I fully expect Rubio and Cruz to take full advantage of it and with Hillary Clinton becoming more and more certain as the Democrat nominee the media is going to go all in.  All the grief that Trump gets for this is on him, doubly so if as some have speculated, he was stupid enough to be worried about losing the White supremacist vote.

And  believe me if you think it’s a big attack now it’s minor league stuff compared to how the MSM will be hitting him once he has the nomination in hand for sure.

But let’s not pretend for one moment that angst that we’re currently seeing on CNN or on twitter reflects any outrage over a presidential candidate associating with terrorists or hate groups and I challenge CNN, MSNBC et/al to ask the pundits who are with self serving righteous fury condemning Trumps waffling on Duke if association with a terrorist disqualifies one from the White House and if so why they either have supported Barack Obama in the past or have not called upon him to resign at once?

Frankly if I was Donald Trump I’d be asking that question aloud and pointing out the media double standard at every rally he holds and on every interview he has from this point on pointing out that both the NYT and Robert Redford have defended Terrorist Ayers in public.

But might I suggest to the Trump voters who might be worried about how this plays out that rather than worrying how to counter the MSM here it would be much easier to just avoid the issue and vote Ted Cruz who has supported all the key things that Trump has from stopping amnesty to opposing common core and fighting Obamacare.

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Almost since the day he was elected I’ve been telling people that the MSM is spinning Pope Francis’ actual words, but my warnings have been to no avail.

So you can’t imagine how great it is to see Steven Kruiser get it

What has befuddled me and several of my conservative friends who are also devout Roman Catholics is the willingness of our conservative friends to take news about this pope at face value from MSM outlets that aren’t trusted for anything else.

He’s referring to this AP story that claims the Pope called Mohammad Abbas the head of the Palestinian authority an “Angel of peace”.

It’s  a lie:

As is tradition with heads of State or of government, Francis presented presented a gift to the Palestinian leader, commenting: “May the angel of peace destroy the evil spirit of war. I thought of you: may you be an angel of peace.”

Calling someone something and exhorting him to be that something are two entirely different things.

You mean the MSM is spinning things to advance their agenda, who woulda thunk it?

I can tell you this: MSM reporting on the Vatican, the Church or whomever is pope at the time almost always needs to be taken with a grain of salt. The media has an obsession with Francis because they’ve convinced themselves that he’s the pope who will make the Church become a gay marriage, abortion loving free-for-all. This, even though barely six months into his tenure, Francis excommunicated a priest for supporting women priests and gay marriage.

As with any political agenda supported by the MSM, it is willing to bend facts to shoehorn stories into the narrative

There are those on the conservative side who don’t like the church & others who don’t trust Francis because of his background, I suspect they are letting those prejudices drive their sudden trust in the MSM.

I’ll give  the last word to Stacy McCain’s favorite Movie Quote

“The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don’t listen to him. Remember that — do not listen.”

The Exorcist (1973)

When the media spins the Pope they are serving the prince of the world.

Two weeks ago I was demanding an apology from ABC & George Stephanopoulos for not disclosing his conflict of interest in the Clinton Cash Story saying this:

today ABC’s broadcast the above interview never noting to viewers that Mr. Stephanopoulos was an Senior Advisor to the Clinton White House nor did Mr. Stephanopoulos (like MSNBC before him) note that the Sunlight foundation that he so emphatically quoted is funded by liberal billionaire George Soros. (To the tune of over a million bucks since 2008)

Now the stockholders of ABC and the people in charge of programing have a perfect right to put whoever they want in charge of their Sunday show and if they want to have a former Clinton Senior advisor to the honors that’s up to them.

But if they wish to keep of the pretense of offering objective journalism as opposed to Democrat political advocacy then journalistic ethics would have required them to have a different person conduct the interview with Mr. Schweizer or at the minimum have Mr. Stephanopoulos disclose his connections to the Clinton White House either before or after the interview.

Today the other shoe dropped:

Now ABC & Mr. Stephanopoulos have to deal with the embarrassment of this disclosure, but then again if they had not bothered putting a Clinton Crony in the big chair this would not be an issue in the first place.

Update: While some might consider this story part of a “vast right wing conspiracy” remember it’s much more likely that it came from the left as part of their attempt to derail Hillary Clinton as the 2016 Democrat nominee.

Update 2: Bazinga!

Update 3: Via Ace a suggestion from the Federalist

ABC News, if it cares one whit about its reputation, should ban Stephanopoulos from doing any 2016 campaign coverage. It’s bad enough that he was once a Clinton White House staffer. But everyone went along with the charade that his political days were behind him and that he just wanted to be an objective reporter. That charade ends today.

Allahpundit has a question

And Glenn Reynolds has a suggestion too:

Inquiring minds want to know.

Update 4: 50 50 50 Do I hear $75,000?

But that’ OK says Hillary Rosen because….

sure it might be a charity that strong arms watchdog organizations

New York Magazine is reporting that team Clinton unsuccessfully attempted to strong arm Charity Navigator into changing its lousy rating of the Clinton Foundation.
The [Clinton] Foundation has demanded they extend the Clintons special treatment. They also allege the Foundation attempted to strong-arm them by calling a Navigator board member. “They felt they were of such importance that we should deviate from our normal process. They were irritated by that,” says [former Charity Foundation CEO] Berger.
Apparently the Foundation was warned they would be added to the “watch list” on March 11th based on pre-“Clinton Cash” reports of possible Foundation/State Dept. quid pro quo deals in late February.

But it’s still a charity no matter what the brains behind it says…it’s just that the Clintons believe in old fashoned sayings…

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I saw this at Glenn’s site two days ago:

What The Clintons Haven’t Learned. “The Clintons just don’t seem prepared for the modern media world and its tendency to relentlessly pry away at the smallest details. In the end, this may be a bigger problem for the Clinton campaign than whatever Schweizer’s book reveals. . . . The Clintons clearly understood that there was a threat, which is why one presumes that Hillary’s e-mails were shielded from FOIA requests. But that also looks like a tacit confession that the Clintons didn’t really understand what they were dealing with.”

While Ms. McArdle’s piece is interesting I disagree with both her premise & Glenn’s.  His premise seems to be the Clinton’s aren’t ready for the Internet age, her premise is the Clintons made a mistake leaving a trail:

Now instead of a mini-scandal over some badly phrased e-mails that would have blown over in a few days, the Clintons have a lingering issue of unknown scale. But that’s not the main problem for the campaign. The most serious concern at the moment is whether there are any other trails of breadcrumbs, and where they might lead.

But I think they are both wrong, I’ve already argued in these pages that the reason these scandals are making headway outside of conservative media is the left (and by extension the media ) is in fear of a Clinton’s defeat in 2016 so they are doing all they can to coax her out of this race early enough to get a better candidate in.

But the real truth is the Clintons HAVE learned the lessons of the 90’s quite well:

It was Democrats and media who vigorously Defended Bill Clinton at every turn, who insisted the Monica stuff was “just about sex”.

It was the liberal media who held back this story and at every opportunity belittled the entire idea of this investigation. (and who ironically MADE Matt Drudge who did not.

And it was democrats who en masse not only voted against the 4 articles of impeachment Article I: Perjury before the grand jury, Article II: Perjury in the Jones case, Article III: Obstruction of justice, Article IV: Abuse of power but directly after their passage assembled on the White House lawn as Richard Gephardt, Al Gore and Clinton Himself (with Hillary beside him) made speeches attacking the House for daring to suggest that his actions made him unfit to hold the Office of president of the United States.

They furthermore learned the lessons of the new century. Hillary Clinton was handed a can’t lose Senate Seat in NY and Bill Clinton has been treated as a rock star on every media network and at every Democrat event he has attended for over a decade.

And ask yourself, how many Democrats have Bill & Hillary campaigned for over just the last four years to cheering crowd?

Why would the Clintons change their behavior when there is no cost for it?

There are very few Democrats who don’t know who and what the Clintons are and they simply don’t care:

Democratic voters remain loyal to Clinton though, with more than three-quarters expressing a positive opinion of the frontrunner for the party’s nomination, according to the NBC/WSJ poll.

In that poll Democrat voters give her 76% on having being able to set ” the proper moral tone for the country” and a majority of those voters consider her “honest and straightforward”.

Yes you read that right.

It doesn’t matter what Bill Clinton does to any woman, it doesn’t matter that nobody can name an accomplishment of Hillary, it doesn’t matter who they sell themselves to or for how much. Democrat voters, the media and Democrat money will be there, particularly if she is the nominee.

That’s the lesson the Clintons have been taught over the years and they’ve learned that lesson well.

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Is it just me or is everybody treating this like it’s the NFL draft or some kind of happening event?

When you turn justice into a sideshow it’s  not justice it’s a spectacle.

The race hustlers are looking for exactly that and the Cable networks are eating it up

Both should be ashamed of themselves.

And frankly I don’t care what the Grand Jury decides.  It is a local crime and its only national significance comes from race hustlers trying to make it so.

I’m done with it.

He doesn’t think of doctrines as primarily “true” or “false,” but as “academic” or “practical,” “outworn” or “contemporary,” “conventional” or “ruthless.” Jargon, not argument, is your best ally

C.S. Lewis:  The Screwtape letters #1

Now that Jonathan Gruber has broken through the media firewall (in large part thanks to Jake Tapper who insists on acting like a reporter even when democrats are in power) our friends in the MSM have plenty of adjectives to describe what he is saying.

The favorite by far seems to be “stupid” not a day goes by when someone in the media talks about how stupid it is for him to have said these things, particularly on camera.

However in that wave of adjectives used to describe Professor Gruber in general and his words concerning the passing and implementation of Obamacare , there is one that we have not seen deployed, one that given his statement would be the first words out of people mouth.

The missing words?  “Liar” and “False”

Nobody wants to deal with that question for one simple reason, if Dr. Gruber is telling the truth (and he is) than a whole lot of Democrats and their media enablers were lying from the start.

Plus you’ll note that Dr. Gruber repeatedly spoke in front of audiences who were,  as a rule friendly to Obamacare, for years without being challenged on his veracity.

So expect more of the stupid chorus and anticipate more Universities, you know those places where ideas are supposedly freely exchanged, pulling them down.

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Final Goal 2014

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If course if you can do both, I’m  fine with that too.

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