Given what I’ve seen today A simple reminder of the rules:
the measure with which you measure will in return be measured out to you. Luke 5:6b
…over the White House compromising over the Bush Tax Cuts™
Mika looks like she is going to throw up. Joe can’t believe it, you’d never know he was a republican, and Jon “I ran Newsweek so well that it sold for less than a Whopper Jr.” Meacham is now re-evaluating Barack Obama.
Well you know Jon as a wise woman once said.
“If you say someone is qualified when they are not you lose credibility!”
But hey who knew that Obama might not be all that he seemed to be.
She’s right that no American would tolerate white-only roads. Israelis, likewise, would never tolerate roads for Jews only. That’s why such roads don’t exist.
The roads she’s referring to in the West Bank are Israeli, and they’re not just for Jews. Israeli Arabs can drive on them, and so can non-Jewish foreigners, including Arab and Muslim foreigners. Palestinians were once able to drive on them but have not been allowed to do so since the second intifada, when suicide bombers used them to penetrate Tel Aviv and Jerusalem in order to massacre people.
There are also, by the way, Palestinian roads in the West Bank that Israelis can’t use.
I’d say that’s news even more so that the 60 minutes facebook piece. What do you think? Over to you guys.
But hey Helen Thomas is an old lady it’s not like you have mainstream magazines advising people not to help out during Israel’s big fire right?
There are a great many good causes in Israel that deserve help, and a great many causes here in America that deserve our help. It seems to me, however, that Israel’s national fire service should be funded by Israel’s government, not by the people of Boca Raton, Potomac and the Upper West Side.
My sympathy is with the people who lost their lives, their families, and those still in danger. It is not with a government that appears to be negligent. And I’m not going to contribute funds that might serve to paper-over the government’s inadequacies.
You know I don’t quite remember his column saying that the US shouldn’t have accepted help in the BP disaster or that the rest of the country shouldn’t have helped New Orleans since the state was corrupt and didn’t use federal funding properly.
Twenty-one Palestinian firefighters arrived at the Mount Carmel region on Sunday to assist Israel in its battle against the huge wildfire which has claimed the lives of 41 people.
Hey Jeff when even Palestinians are helping when you are advising otherwise, I’d say think again, but then again the American Left has really degenerated when it comes to Israel and Jews over the last 30 years. It’s been amazing to watch. I’m happy to see Alan Colmes hasn’t succumbed.
Update: Stacy nails it:
There is blood on her hands, just as there is blood on the hands of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and al-Qaeda. Indeed, by her slanderous accusations against Israel, Helen Thomas dips her hands in the blood of Bobby Kennedy and proclaims to the world that RFK was wrong to support Israel, and that Bobby’s killer was right.
This is not a debate about U.S. foreign policy or about the terms of peace between Israel and Palestine.
We can debate such things civilly and amicably. But there can be no room in that debate for those like Helen Thomas who foment anti-Semitic paranoia by making accusations of mala fides against Israel’s allies, claiming that anyone who defends Israel is “owned” by shadowy Zionist conspirators.
Foster Kamer has a post up at the village voice about who smeared Dave Weigel, a gem from the piece:
I’m of the idea that Journolist was a bad idea in practice — because there is always a rat, always — but think that writers should be allowed to be sentient human beings with, you know, opinions about things. Otherwise, hold them in for seven presidential administrations, and the next thing you know, you’re Helen Thomas and your incredible legacy is now marred because you expressed an opinion about your job for the first time in your life that you’ve held in for way too long, that ends up being a “shocker” to people, and costs you your rep.
Take a look at that paragraph and the willful blindness it contains and it tells you a lot about the author. Poor Helen Thomas if only nobody knew what she really thought, we could have admired her in ignorance, just like Alger Hiss.
What annoys me is the title and the premise, Who smeared Dave Weigel? Smeared?
You might say who betrayed Dave Weigel, who outed Dave Weigel, who exposed Dave Weigel who embarrassed Dave Weigel but not smeared.
Smeared implies a falsehood, there is no falsehood here, Weigel wrote what he wrote of his own free will and said what he said.
Calling tea party activists racists, that is a smear. Exposing Weigel’s and Thomas’ true feelings in their own words to the light of day can be called many things but smear is not one of them.
So in the words of Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
If Foster wants to defend Weigel he should take a page out of Stacy McCain’s book:
Ali Akbar called me to discuss WeigelGate and pointed out something: Weigel hung out with us in NY-23, in Boston during the Brown campaign, at CPAC and at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.
During all that time, Ali remarked, not once did Weigel do a “gotcha” by disseminating reports of the off-the-record stuff he saw and heard. Whatever vicious snark and gossip Weigel dished out via his blog, or e-mails or Twitter, he did not abuse his journalistic privilege by burning the people who gave him access.
That is the defense of a friend rather than of an ideologue. Weigel is really lucky that he has Stacy McCain as a friend. Stacy will fight for his friends till hell freezes over and then will fight on the ice.
One may disagree on fences and rights of return. There have been handshakes, summits, accords, cease-fires, negotiations and boycotts. It’s all been on the table, under the table or sometimes tabled. But the connection between the Jew and Israel is valid, historical, ancient, modern, spiritual and eternal. The relationship is beyond the state of Israel. It is a unique relationship of a religion to a land. The Jews are “bnai yisroel,” the children of Israel. Even when they are away, they are connected. Even during exiles and diasporas, they are connected. Even during inquisitions, pogroms and a Holocaust, they are connected.
My grandmother used to kibitz, “Friends you choose; family you’re stuck with.” The Jew is stuck with Israel. There is no ungluing the connection. It is beyond the ambiguous term “chosen people”; they are “the people who have no choice.” It is more than a religious belief; it is a value and a moral barometer of the Earth. History, truth, integrity and the foundation of our world are not negotiable
If the people of Israel were anything other than what they are we would not be having this debate because the Arabs would have been exterminated more than half a century ago. Instead they have to ask the eternal question:
Tevye: I know, I know. We are Your chosen people. But, once in a while, can’t You choose someone else?
Considering that the Rabbi in question was a liberal Don Surber hits the nail on the head:
They say a conservative is a liberal whose been mugged.
Helen Thomas mugged every Jew in the world.
As I woke up this morning I was channel surfing and I stopped on CNN for a moment and they were discussing Helen Thomas and there was something that struck me, beyond the point that if she is function in a job at her age she needs to be held to the standards of the job.
The thought was they couldn’t believe that Helen Thomas really meant what she said about the Jews. They all knew her, she couldn’t actually mean it. She is old etc…etc…etc…
I leave you all this thought:
How many died in the last century because they wouldn’t let themselves believe people actually meant what they said? How many will die this century for the same reason?
If you want to know why people like Pam Geller gets so excited over radical Islam. It’s because she understands this basic truth.
I go for a bite of lunch, wash some dishes, start slow cooking a few rib and do a little vacuuming and what happens. Helen Thomas runs:
“Helen Thomas announced Monday that she is retiring, effective immediately,” read a statement from Hearst Newspapers on Monday. “Her decision came after her controversial comments about Israel and the Palestinians were captured on videotape and widely disseminated on the Internet.”
The Drudge headline is the best:
Helen sent to Poland
But there is plenty of buzz on the net:
The Lonely conservative:
Helen Thomas announced today that she will retire after she made it perfectly clear that she’s a raging anti-Semite.
I disagree, this was already clear, it’s just that she removed plausible deniability from the equation for the left.
I’ve posted the statement below the fold, but I think it’s important to note why some people saw this coming, and why Thomas had basically no defenders over the past 72 hours. She parlayed 60 years of journalism experience into a comfortable job as a columnist, one who had the right to a seat in the front row of the White House briefing room and lob questions at the president. In her later years, she used that privilege to indulge an opinion fairly rare in Washington’s press corps — that Israel was engaging in criminal acts against Palestinians.
I’m sure Dave knows the press corps better than me but I suspect that opinion is a lot more wide spread that he thinks.
Glenn Reynolds reminds his Army of Davids:
I told you those ubiquitous video cameras mattered
One doesn’t have the option of public bigotry in an age of instant film
No more Mr. Nice blog plays so’s your old man:
Even the White House piled on her. She apologized for her comments, which is more than El Rushbo or Glenn Beck ever did for their “controversial comments” but she’s out of a job now after five decades, unlike those two clowns.
And well, she’s gone now. Great work, the Village. You finally got rid of the old bat, right? You stopped the source of cooties after all these years. Good luck filling her chair, any of you in the WHPC. None of you are worthy, frankly.
This seems to be a theme on the left. Taylor Marsh for example:
Meanwhile, Glenn Beck who invokes Mein Kampf when talking about Barack Obama’s presidency, and other right-wing screed provocateurs who use hate speech to make a living remain gainfully employed.
Back on the right Protein Wisdom
She should look on the bright side: at least nobody decided to gas her, then stick her in a big-ass pizza oven.
Arbeit macht frei, Helen, baby!
It is sad that the controversy surrounding Thomas will now end and the media will go back to ignoring Anti-Semitism within its ranks
My thoughts exactly. You can fight this type of thing only when it is in the open.
…when talking about Helen Thomas; Joe suggesting that they: “Get her a cake and retire her”. The tone of Savannah Guthrie et/al was old lady sad thing (choice 5 see link above) but Anthony Weiner was having none of it, pointing to her last press conference going after Israel. Everyone in the media at that table looks really uncomfortable.
And remember of the MSM, Morning Joe is the most balanced, on the other networks it’s going to be even worse.
The White House is VERY lucky that Rush is gone for two weeks. If HE called for her resignation on his show then it would be rock and hard place time.
Update: Jonah cuts to the chase:
For starters, this is a classic gaffe because Helen Thomas accidentally told the truth. She’s wrong on the substance, obviously. But of course she believes the Israelis should go away. I sincerely doubt there is anyone familiar with Thomas who really doubts for a moment that she was being less than honest when she made her “back to Poland” comments or that she is lying now when she says she didn’t mean it.
But beyond that, can we do away with all of the shock and dismay at Thomas’ statement? Spare me Lanny Davis’s wounded outrage. Everyone knows she is a nasty piece of work and has been a nasty piece of work for decades.
…and his examples are not just about Israel.
…apparently Lanni Davis, Craig Crawford and her publisher have had enough:
I concur with the following response from my agent to Helen Thomas’ lamentable remarks about Israel, and will no longer be working with Helen on our book projects. — Craig Crawford
“It is with a heavy heart that Nine Speakers, Inc. announces its resignation as the agent for Helen Thomas, Dean of the White House Press Corps. Ms. Thomas has had an esteemed career as a journalist, and she has been a trailblazer for women, helping others in her profession, and beyond. However, in light of recent events, Nine Speakers is no longer able to represent Ms. Thomas, nor can we condone her comments on the Middle East. Nine Speakers will continue to enthusiastically represent all of our other current and future clients.”
Shiri died that day, just two weeks before her 22nd birthday, in a blast that ended the lives of 18 other people ranging in age from 11 to 72. They were all killed on orders of Hamas — the same terrorist organization that rules Gaza, where 23-year-old Rachel Corrie arrived to join the anti-Israeli ISM contigent in January 2003, barely seven months after the blast that destroyed Bus No. 32A.
If you want another explanation why I stand with Israel, this is one of them.
You go, Helen! Don’t back off. In fact, given Israel’s out of control aggression, I’ve been having fantasies that the Disney Company will build a giant water slide on the beach at Tel Aviv and hire a piccolo player in a red cape to play “In the Hall of the Mountain King.”
And when we don’t get that we get the moral equivalence card from places like the moderate voice and think progress who conveniently forget that when Israel was formed there was a Palestinian state created at the same time. It’s called “Jordan”. It wasn’t until Israel won the 1967 war that the cause for yet another Arab state in the region took place. Hitting back is cathartic but the most important function Thomas’ remarks have achieved is the identification of those who dreams are beyond just a Judenrein Middle east. As Captain Ed puts it:
Also, this episode should remind everyone that if it were up to Israel, there would be no war. If it was up to Hamas and Fatah, there would be no Israel. And that’s the main problem with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and one that is irreconcilable.
It’s beyond that. I think the goal isn’t no Israel, I think the goal is no Jews period.