Jim Wooten’s round-up in the AJC contains this interesting paragraph:
The city of Ringgold is betting that erecting a statue of Confederate Army Maj. Gen. Patrick Cleburne next October will bring tourists with fat wallets eager to spend. It’s on my list —- just after the Golf Hall of Fame, the Music Hall of Fame, the Sports Hall of Fame and the various others that were to be the salvation of some place or other. But give the people of Ringgold credit. The statue was not financed by taxpayers.
Cleburne was one of the most effective commanders of the war, particularly on defense. His men were were renowned for holding back the enemy, it was his men that at Lookout mountain that held Sherman on the right flank while the center gave and who covered their retreat.
What he was not so renowned for has his proposal to emancipate the slaves in 1863 by the south and enlist them.
We can do this more effectually than the North can now do, for we can give the Negro not only his own freedom, but that of his wife and child, and can secure it to him in his old home.
He believed that it would also remove the “all selfish taint from our cause” he figured that slavery was doomed anyway so why not, particularly since tens of thousands of black soldiers were already in the Northern ranks.
It was considered so incendiary that it was suppressed for over 30 years after his death at the battle of Franklin. Foote states that the result of his paper Cleburne was never promoted from that point.
A luckier break the Union never had.
The wife accidentally hit me about 3 hours ago waking me up. Unfortunately I stayed up, but that means Morning Joe and I got the chance to see the start of the show. Since I’m typing as they are speaking quotes may not be exact.
Chuck Todd is on and just pointed out that moderates and independents voted for Obama in droves even though the candidate was John McCain.
This is John McCain who is supposed to be Mr Moderate
Joe Scarborough gets it:
Republican Moderates usually do poorly Republican true believers tend to do well.
Pat questions Todd pointing out that when he selected Palin he was up for a while until the market crashed and killed him.
(all this sounds like Rush Limbaugh so far)
Todd however is blaming a bad Obama campaign rather than the Palin pick.
Here is the actual answer. Obama didn’t run a great campaign against McCain, the media ran a great campaign for Obama. Obama was and in my opinion is a rookie pitcher from a corrupt machine with a lot of questionable associations but the media decided he was the next JFK and the cure to all that was wrong with race in America. They didn’t want anything in the way of the history they were making.
As far as McCain goes rallied conservatives with Palin and could have won this campaign but his position on the bailout murdered him and kept conservatives home. The media did and still hates Palin for what she is, an actual living example of conservative values who doesn’t give a damn what they think. So they did their best to destroy her.
Limbaugh was absolutely right about this one but as always we got the government we deserve, and we have 4 years to see if it was the right move.
Update: Morning Joe would be so much better if Andrea Mitchell wasn’t on it. Unlike the others on the show she still pretends that she is a reporter and not an advocate but you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
I dug out my copy of Shelby Foote’s Masterpiece The Civil War a Narrative after that first post and in the first Volume on pages 58-59 there is a speech by Sherman on pages that could have been made to the Palestinian authority:
You people of the South don’t know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don’t know what you’re talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it
Substitute “Israel” for North and either “Arabs” or “Palestinians” for South and read it again. The next statement says something profound about the Arab world
Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth—right at your doors.You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, … If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.
The Arab world is blessed with oil wealth yet hey have done nothing but emasculate their own people with it. Even in Gaza, the Israeli’s left greenhouses an infrastructure intact. The Palestinian authority has been given hundreds of millions in aid from the west and Europe and where has it gone?
How do you think Arafat his wife and his boytoys managed to get so rich? If just half of the money was spent on improving the lives or promoting industry the Palestinians would now be prospering.
I could be dead wrong but my gut says that if it was up to the avg. Joe there they would rather just live their lives. Given the chance they could live them well. (Even if hey still wanted to go to war they would have their own wealth and infrastructure to help support it.) The rest of the Arab world and at the moment Iran prefer the Palestinians to remain a tool to threaten Israel and a distraction to their own peoples. That is why there were never absorbed. The other Arabs don’t give a damn about them.
Sherman’s sober words about the “terrible hardships of war” were written to the mayor of Atlanta, who had complained about the cruelty of the Union commander’s order for the evacuation of the civilian population of the city. Sherman’s merciless attitude was motivated by his belief that the South bore responsibility for starting the war, and thus had no legitimate grounds to complain about the consequences of war. Sherman furthermore believed that by devastating the interior of the Confederacy, destroying its infrastructure and resources, he would hasten the end of the war and thereby end its attendant misery:
This is exactly right.
He also says this:
If the IDF had a Sherman in command, he would no doubt vow to “make Gaza howl” with a March to the Sea.
Boy that sounds familiar.
Sherman BTW is a fascinating person I suggest finding a good biography to read of him, but not this one by Lee Kennett which managed to make the story of an interesting man into a boring tale.
My review of the book The Name of War: King Philip’s War the the origins of American identity is now available at Amazon here.
A lot of things on the mind again so we are just going to have to steal the style of Jay Nordlinger’s Impromptus column and say a few things;
The last time I did this I wrote the following:
The day the New York Times can call itself the Instapundit of Newspapers is the day its stock will not be tanking its building will not need to be mortgaged and will be worth reading again.
Obviously, if Democrats really believed that Republicans were responsible for the housing crisis we would be seeing mock show trial after mock show trial in front of the various Congressional committees. We are not seeing that today.
You can tell what is reality by what people actually do vs what they say every time.
A little more on the New York Times; you know there is nothing wrong with serving a niche market as long as you can make a profit doing it. The New York Times and a good chunk of the media in general is writing for a niche liberal east coast market and is tanking in value. If you can be happy being #2 or #3 and still make a buck all well and good (Read MSNBC) but if you are losing your shirt you can be doing this?
And is it just me or do liberals seem to forget the existence of YouTube and video tape? From the same Gateway pundit link above we see members of congress with a D by their side defending Fannie Mae. Then we see the media and those same congressmen pretending it didn’t happen. Have they forgotten a computer is now an appliance? People can see this stuff.
You know when I was working I had the 1 to midnight shift. Since my wife is a light sleeper and always had trouble getting back to sleep I would crash on the couch and moan when my early rising family would wake me up. Now that I’m not working I’m sleeping in my bed much more. My wife and kids have no school and I’m still waking up before 6. The only good side of it is Morning Joe.
Speaking of Morning Joe, it is the best show on MSNBC and not just because Mika Brzezinski is one of the most handsome women on television but the chemistry between her and Joe Scarborough is fantastic. It really seems that the people on this show genuinely like each other and are not afraid to disagree without being disagreeable. Watching them talk is like watching my friends talk with me, we come from all over the political and religious spectrum and we are friends and always will be.
Don’t forget that it was Morning Joe that grilled Axelrod when nobody else would.
Plus Mike Barnicle is from my home town.
However the hardest thing about watching the show is the ads for Rachel Maddow and Countdown, even the promos are over the top in their worship of liberalism and demonetization of conservatives.
Whenever I see Harold Ford Jr. on Morning Joe I think of Satchel Paige THE greatest pitcher of all time. Page resented that Jackie Robinson made the majors before him with his long record of accomplishment. I look at president elect Obama and Ford and think the same thing.
Do you know who got the last hit against Paige? Carl Yaztrzemski in 1965. 1965! It was the only hit he gave up in three innings work, at the age of 59. And that’s assuming his listed birth date is correct.
Of course the Red Sox were one of the worst teams in baseball that year too. They lost 100 games and finished 9th in a 10 team league. Rico Petrocelli and Jim Lonborg were rookies and Tony Conigliaro was only in his 2nd year. They were two years away from greatness. They were also still the most lily white team in the league. Earl Wilson the great slugging pitcher was about it.
These days the Sox are perennial contenders with two world series under their belt and look like the UN by comparison.
It’s quite a thing to be a Boston fan of any sport this year. The Sox just missed the series this year, the Pats are 10-5 WITHOUT Tom Brady, the Celtics are the World Champs and have won 18 straight. and the Bruins are in First place. I don’ t know how long this can last but you’ve gotta love it if you are in Boston.
It almost makes up for the two feet of snow in my front yard, there is no place to put the snow and it isn’t even winter yet. And we have another storm due this week.
Did I just hear people comparing Sarah Palin to Caroline Kennedy and saying the comparison is unfair on Morning Joe and in print? Yes I did but they have it backwards. Gov Palin has actually run a city and a state. Caroline Kennedy hasn’t. Kennedy is so much less qualified that Palin that it isn’t funny.
Of course the newly popular Kathleen Parker makes that point in her column today too, but can’t do it without kicking Palin:
Palin’s demonstrated lack of basic knowledge, her intellectual incuriosity, her inability to articulate ideas or even simple thoughts all combined to create an impression of not-quite-there.
Few doubt that Palin is here to stay. She is the GOP’s chosen closer, as demonstrated in Georgia when she roused the crowds to help re-elect Sen. Saxby Chambliss. What she possesses by immeasurable orders of magnitude – personal power, presence, pizazz – one can’t purchase. The rest – theoretically – she can learn.
Kennedy, a relatively erudite person who has authored several books, may have the political clout to get herself a Senate seat, but it isn’t clear that she has the people power needed to sustain her. The electorate eventually will sort out the differences that matter.
In the meantime, a Sen. Caroline Kennedy would not be a nuclear-enabled leader of the free world, whereas a Vice President Sarah Palin might have been.
‘I do not say the French can’t come, I only say they can’t come by sea.’
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, God they must hate her!
Been reading about Jervis in The Line Upon the Wind the Great War at sea 1893-1815. Once I finish it I’ll link to the Amazon review but there is one thing worth mentioning up front.
I’ve read a lot of naval histories, this is the first one describing the Chesapeake Leopard incident from the British side of the coin and it seems to give justification for the act, although saying the cost was high in terms of international relations. It also repeats the nonsense suggestion of the Admiralty at the time that US frigates such as the USS Constitution was in fact more of a Ship of the Line than a frigate. 200+ year old biases die hard.
And if you’ve never visited the USS Constitution in Charleston Mass do so.
Some more recient biases include everyone’s favorite game “Name That Party!”
How bad is the bias? It’s gotten so bad that yesterday when my totally non-political wife was reading the paper I pointed to this AP story and asked what was wrong with it. She took one look and said they must not mention he was a democrat.
She wouldn’t know the AG of Ohio from a hole in the ground. If my wife is figuring this out then the cat is out of the bag.
A little religion, did you see this:
He may not be a Catholic but it is the best description of Sin and the fight against it i’ve ever heard.
And the Talisman game we played after it was the best I’ve ever seen, 4 people made it to the crown and the fate markers really add to the game even if I was turned into a frog. It was the most exciting single game that I’ve played in 30 years.
And if you are interested in all things Talisman check here.
Well I’ve been typing this for almost two hours and I haven’t even talked about battery cars and the coal that will be needed to power them. I’ll finish with this totally unrelated stat and thought.
Just before the storm this blog was being found, my hits were up by a factor of 3-5 and it looked like it was growing. The loss of power slaughtered my stats and they haven’t recovered, it is quite annoying but if that is the worst problem that I have (particularly with people on my street STILL without power then I’m a real lucky guy.)
And only three days to the Doctor Who Christmas Special The next Doctor; Huzzah!
There are simply too many things I want to talk about today but i don’t want to put up 15 posts like that today. So I’m going to steal the format of my 2nd favorite writer and start with something and then go where my mind takes me.
Am I actually reading Dee Dee Myers the press secretary to Bill Clinton go after Obama Mr. Favreau’s photo with a cutout? She is right of course but a tad late in the outrage department. There are some days when I think some people forget there are such things as youtube and videotape.
Groping a cardboard cutout is worse than cheating on your wife for 30+ years.
All I know is I have a job interview next week and if a picture like that of me came out before it it would be a real short one.
I’ve had time to watch some of my DVD’s since being laid off. I’ve been particularly watching the 50’s British show The Adventures of Robin Hood starring Richard Greene. It was my favorite show as a kid and when it was on at 6 a.m. on WMUR I always woke up on time. The quality of the writing holds up very well particularly against the new series which is a waste of space.
Since blacklisted writers including Ring Lardner Jr. were involved the quality isn’t a surprise. The irony is that watched 50 years it seems very politically incorrect, the Crusades as a noble endeavor and defensive war, and particularly the respect for the Catholic Church. I think that would make people like Lardner spin in their graves, and it couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
You know people keep forgetting the Communism was the greatest killer of humanity of the 20th century, not Fascism, not Racism but Communism. It still kills today but people for some reason don’t want to admit it.
Walter Duranty of the New York times wrote about it too back when it happened. He denied it in the pages of the New York Times winning a Pulitzer for it while acknowledging it privately. Some things never change.
I can’t think of the New York Times without thinking of my favorite writer Glenn Reynolds. Of course he is not a professional writer but a law professor who blogs for at Instapundit I am one of his many blog children. I never forget that when I started reading him in 2001 he used to have a quote on the top of his page saying “The New York Times of Bloggers.” I remember when he removed from his site thinking its absence enhanced his reputation.
BTW the link to the story above about the Times Stock Tanking is from 5 months ago, since that time when it “tanked” it has lost a further half of its value.
If you are a Doctor Who fan Rich’s Comix Blog should be your first stop on the next every day. His 10 doctors is on its 162th page as of this writing. The only problem with it is that i have to wait for more of his ancient Roman strip FVLMINATA.
If you are a Doctor Who or a Bugs Bunny fan you will love this, if you aren’t a doctor who fan you will likely not get it.
Since we are on British TV again one more thought about The Robin Hood Series. There are only a few episodes where the political message is blatant, but their politics are there. With older eyes you can see subtleties that are missed as a child. When you know what you are looking for it is easier to see.
It reminds me of something Bill James said about Joe Morgan in his first baseball abstract concerning base stealing and pitchouts. Apparently it never worked on Morgan because he would always notice something that gave it away, and when you noticed one thing you would notice others.
Oh and if you are baseball fan David Pinto’s blog Baseball musings should be a daily visit, particularly during the dark days of winter.
Speaking of baseball these are golden times for us Red Sox fans. Two world series and a contender every year. For us who remember the decades of disappointment we should be very grateful. But our children will never understand it.
Along those same lines. My mother was born in 1924 and is 84. My teenage sons were often babysat by her and have had first hand experience in depression era values. This has given them an advantage that their peers lack its one more debt to her I can never repay.
And finally when talking about debts that can’t be repaid; that 2nd favorite writer Jay Nordlinger whose Impromptus column is required reading at any time but his hour long interview with President Bush is incredible. An excerpt:
A word about popularity: You can be popular, but “at what price”? “You can get short-term popularity in the Middle East if you want, by blaming all problems on Israel. That’ll make you popular. You can be popular in certain salons of Europe if you say, ‘Okay, we’ll join the International Criminal Court.’ I could have been popular if I’d said, ‘Oh, Kyoto is the way to deal with the environmental problem.’ That would have made me liked. It would have made me wrong, however. And, ultimately, you earn people’s respect by articulating a set of principles and standing by them.
“You know, popularity comes and goes. It just does. It comes and goes for an individual or a nation [sing it, brother]. But principles are enduring.”
The president has been wrong on some big things (cough: bailouts cough:) but on a day when the big story is the attempted sale of the president elect vacant senate seat that message is important. It will be decades before we appreciate what we had.