There was a throw away line in this piece at Instapundit concerning Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s and wikileaks that jumped out at me:

What is it with the DNC and their strange stalker-like obsession with Morning Joe anyhow? Here’s video of the Obama administration emailing the show and one of Joe’s distaff co-hosts (possibly Savannah Guthrie) reading on the air a White House “correction” to their coverage back in October of 2009. That was also around the time “a ‘senior White House official’sent an email calling Joe Scarborough an ‘asshole’ for mocking Pres. Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize.”

And you thought Trump couldn’t handle criticism!

While these days my work/prayer schedule prevents me from watching the answer is actually pretty obvious to anyone who has watched the show.

Morning Joe has two things that no other MSNBC show has

 A Republican host who while occasionally going off the reservation and not a big fan of Tea Party types provides a reliable conservative viewpoint on basic issues that as a rule MSNBC viewers are never exposed to. 

A Democrat co-host who while a partisan Democrat is honest and cares about her reputation enough not to lie to the viewers simply for the sake of the party and is willing to question things that smell to her.

Even worse when a Tea Party conservative shows up on the show, they are treated fairly and not as a rule dismissed as some kind of loony

It’s one thing to dismiss Fox or GOP activists or even bloggers it’s another to dismiss something when the MSNBC drivetime show talks about something as legit.

For the Democrats that makes them dangerous.

That’s why I think conservatives should invest time in the show an cultivate both Joe and Mika, it’s their easiest entre to introduce news that the MSM wants to suppresses into the stream outside of Fox.


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While unlike last year  time didn’t permit me to grab Joe Scarborough for an interview I managed to record his speech to the crowd

You might notice Joe’s speech was the only one of the weekend I recorded in full, but that’s because I don’t get a chance to see him every morning as I used to. And yes I bumped it ahead of others so Morning Joe viewers could see it before Monday’s show

If you don’t want to wait for the individual posts you can see all my interviews from the weekend as they’re uploaded here

MSNBC doesn’t get a lot of viewers so if you are on the right you might have missed Ted Cruz who got a full 15 minutes on Morning Joe on Tuesday

Cruz did an excellent job and like Scott Walker didn’t back down and inch and did an excellent job of pitching his ideas to an audience that likely has never heard them without the left’s filter. Many fail to get how important it is to make the case to the other side you won’t persuade but a few, but that’s a few more than you had before.

It speaks well of Cruz that he was willing to go, but let me also tip the Hat to Morning Joe who had him on and gave him a full 15 minute segment to make his case.

“I’m making fun of liberals who say ‘Republicans don’t believe in science’ if they don’t believe Florida will be underwater by June 5th.”

That’s a #Bazinga & I would have tweeted it as such but Twitter is only 140 characters.

Remember for all the times he can drive us nuts Joe is one of the few people who make the conservative case to an MSNBC viewer.

 

KERRY’S ROLE IS TO MAKE HILLARY LOOK GOOD IN RETROSPECT.

Glenn Reynolds Instapundit April 9th 2014

Turned on Morning Joe today and Joe Scarborough was hitting on one of my pet peeves people pretending they aren’t running for president. It is really annoying & he hit both Hillary & Jeb Bush on this (the real reason they don’t announce btw is because the fundraising rules change once you’re running officially.)

However at the end of that sequence Jeremy Peters of the NYT said something so…amazing, that I couldn’t believe my ears.

At Joe’s bemoaning the lack of substance in Hillary’s presentation Mr. Peters suggested that Hillary “should run on her foreign policy credentials.”

Funny he doesn’t look like he was born in 2013.

We’ve been talking about this subject here for a long time so I welcome Jeremy Peters to the table.

and if he can do what Doug Mataconis, Andrea Mitchell , attendees at a Democrat event and John Heilmann & Mika Brzezinski at that very table couldn’t do: That is:

Name an accomplishment of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state

we’d all be delighted to have him do so.

Closing thought: Don’t forget John Kerry was the guy the left wanted in Charge instead of George W Bush.

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As I’ve already said Joe Scarborough has been a friend to this blog and to DaTechGuy on DaRadio and if anyone expects me to throw him under the bus it’s simply not going to happen, Sicilians don’t do that.

That being said when it comes to his statements on Israel the last few days I think Joe is very wrong on several levels.  Allow me to explain in some detail the fallacies:

1.  The blame game:

Kay:There’s always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet

Men in Black 1997

Joe’s initial comments concerning Israel came before the latest Hamas violation of the cease-fire but the problem he runs into is beyond that:

The United States of America — we cannot be associated with this if this continues. This is so bad, not only for the Israeli people, but for us.

The argument here is that it hurts the United States to be associated with Israel because of these actions but  However it doesn’t matter what Israel does o how far they go they are to blame.

If they invade to take out the tunnels they are to blame for invading.

If they shell or use airstrikes to stop the rockets they are to blamed for the shelling

If they do not shell but merely cut off the cement used to make the tunnels 

And if they do nothing and simply take Rocket fire then they are to blame because they don’t’ allow Hamas to pass the checkpoints into Israel.

Simply ask yourself if anyone internationally cares that Russia has been supporting Assad what kind of condemnation did they receive for this?

The bottom line is this:  It doesn’t matter what Israel does or doesn’t do the left & the arab world will consider it a criminal state and will attack the US for supporting it. 

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2.  The poor innocents:

Balton: If you love your brother, you must shelter him, hide him, protect him from the Mentiads. Remember what happened to your father.
Mula: My father didn’t fall into the hands of the Mentiads.
Balton: No
Mula: He was shot by the Captain’s guards.
Balaton: To save him from the Mentiads. At least he died a clean death. It was an act of mercy by the Captain.
Kimus: Oh well, thank you, O merciful Captain, for so kindly having Mula’s father shot down in the street like a dog.
Balaton: Listen, Kimus, let me tell you this. I would cheerfully strangle Pralix with my own hands to save him from those, those

Doctor Who: The Pirate Planet 1978

The second bit of nonsense in his argument involves  civilian casualties

“This continued killing of women and children in a way that appears to be indiscriminate is asinine. . . .

Note the point being made, the reality that if Israel was targeting civilians there wouldn’t be 1500 dead but 150,000 dead by now, but we are not supposed to react based on the reality but what “appears” to be reality.

If you want to see reality take this quote from Hillel Neuer via Yid with Lid:

If in the past year you didn’t cry out when thousands of protesters were killed and injured by Turkey, Egypt and Libya, when more victims than ever were hanged by Iran, women and children in Afghanistan were bombed, whole communities were massacred in South Sudan, 1800 Palestinians were starved and murdered by Assad in Syria, hundreds in Pakistan were killed by jihadist terror attacks, 10,000 Iraqis were killed by terrorists, villagers were slaughtered in Nigeria, but you only cry out for Gaza, then you are not pro human rights, you are only anti-Israel.

Now in fairness Joe has in fact talked about the deaths in Egypt, and in Syria and in Afghanistan but a large chunk of the people currently all over Israel have not, as far as they are concerning the hundreds killed in Syria, the Christians expelled by ISIS and the woman stoned to death and even the shooting of “collaborators” is a non-story.

In fact the #1 target of the various Islamic groups have always been their fellow Muslims and/or arabs who simply aren’t the right type of arab or muslim.

This leads to another logical conclusion:

The left and the Arab worlds concern for the dead innocents in directly proportional to their ability to blame Israel and/or the west for said deaths.

3.  Oh what comes next:

Jacob Woodling:  Quiet! Brigham Young has twenty seven wives and he hasn’t had half the trouble with them that I’ve had with the two of you!
Elizabeth: Then simplify your life, Jacob. Sell me.
Jacob Woodling: But Elizabeth: you don’t know what you’ll get.
Elizabeth:  
I know what I’ve had.

Paint Your Wagon  1969

Joe’s other point is the fear of what comes next:

As much as we all hate Hamas, what is going to replace Hamas is going to be much worse. It is going to be a radical Islamist group instead of just power-hungry, corrupt people that despise Israel. 

AllahPundit (via Stacy) made dismisses Joe’s argument thus:

If you take the “whatever comes next will be worse” logic to its ultimate conclusion, though, you’re forever left defending whichever bunch of degenerates is in charge at the time. Israel can’t oust Hamas because then Al Qaeda might take over; if Al Qaeda takes over, Israel can’t oust them or else ISIS might move in. If ISIS moves in, Israel can’t oust them or else a portal to hell will open in the ground and Hitler and Bin Laden will emerge from the earth to rule Gaza together.

It’s not a bad as far as it goes but given what we’ve seen in Egypt, Syria & Libya over the last couple of years I find it an insufficient counter Joe Scarborough’s point.  One could credibly make the case the world would be better if there had been no revolts in any of those three states.

The actual error in Joe’s reasoning is actually illustrated by this seemingly unrelated post from Elder of Zion noting that the world (and Israel) is pretty much ignoring the rockets currently being shot from the West Bank:

The Abu Nidal Brigades of Fatah’s Al Asqa Martyrs Brigades helpfully gives us a tally: 

34 N103 missiles .
173 107 missiles .
32 Grad rockets.
53 120 mm mortar rounds
23 80 mm mortar rounds
14 60 mm mortar rounds
One RPG-7 .
Moltka anti-missile shields.


At least three other Fatah terror groups have also fired rockets at Israel.

Why is Fatah doing this,  because of a simple fact:

A senior Fatah official told me earlier this week in Ramallah that Fatah has felt obliged to fire some rockets against Israel, lest it be seen as collaborating with the Jewish state.

This is Fatah’s defense for war crimes – because they don’t want to look too peaceful to their own people!

Think about that for a second, the supposedly moderate Fatah, the people who are simply interested in living large off of their own corruption and the foreign aid that pours in feels obliged to attempt to attack Israel to prove to their people that they are interested in killing Jews.

That’s the dirty little secret, if there was an election in the west bank, in Gaza on peace or war with Israel, the vote would be overwhelmingly for war.

The same would be true if such a vote took place in Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran Libya  and even Iraq.  The people are overwhelmingly in favor of destroying the Jewish state.

And let not forget what protesters across Europe are saying:

 Residents of Frankfurt and Dortmund were horrified in mid-July to see neo-Nazi groups join hands with left-wing Islamists in a grim chant: “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas.” The center of London was blocked on July 19 by thousands who gathered in front of the Israeli embassy in Kensington to shout their hatred for Jews.


Not to mention Amsterdam, the city of Spinoza, Europe’s capital of tolerance, where in certain neighborhoods it has become practically impossible to wear a yarmulke in public without running the risk of being insulted or assaulted.

At the Tablet they really nail it:

Rahman Azzam Pasha, the head of the newly formed Arab League, spoke for his “honor group” when he threatened that “if the Zionists dare establish a state, the massacres we would unleash would dwarf anything which Genghis Khan and Hitler perpetrated.” As the Armenians had discovered a generation earlier, the mere suspicion of rebellion could engender massacres.
Instead a group of Jews who survived Hitler’s ovens not only were not massacred but defeated the arabs again and again from 1948 all the way to 1973 (notwithstanding Egypt’s self-delusion celebration of their “victory” in that last war.  For a culture based on honor or saving face that is intolerable which is why 70 years later these people are still considered “refugees” )
 If the refugees from this Zionist aggression disappeared, absorbed by their brethren in the lands to which they fled, this would acknowledge the intolerable: that Israel had won. And so, driven by rage and denial, the Arab honor group redoubled the catastrophe of its own refugees: They made them suffer in camps, frozen in time at the moment of the humiliation, waiting and fighting to reverse that Zionist victory that could be acknowledged. The continued suffering of these sacrificial victims on the altar of Arab pride called out to the Arab world for vengeance against the Jews. In the meantime, wherever Muslims held power, they drove their Jews out as a preliminary act of revenge.
 It’s no accident that arab nations are pretty much Judenrein and remains the explanation for every problem in every arab state to wit:
Ahmed Sheikh, editor in chief of Al Jazeera,blames Israel for the lack of democracy in the Arab world:

The day when Israel was founded created the basis for our problems. … It’s because we always lose to Israel. It gnaws at the people in the Middle East that such a small country as Israel, with only about 7 million inhabitants, can defeat the Arab nation with its 350 million. That hurts our collective ego. The Palestinian problem is in the genes of every Arab. The West’s problem is that it does not understand this.

Sheikh’s conclusion is not that ending the fight with Israel might lead to democracy, but rather that once the West lets the Arabs win against Israel, then they’ll build democracies.
Note that phrase, “letting them win”, as if they would have destroyed Israel if it wasn’t for the west, let’s not forget that during the 1967 war Egypt & Jordan openly debated if they would claim their air forces were decimated by US & British troops because it could not be conceded that they were crushed by mere jews.
And let’s top of this point with from this quote from Commentary via  Carl from Jerusalem:
The M-75 is a technological marvel–a homemade medium-range rocket capable of striking Tel Aviv, developed despite stringent Israeli import restrictions aimed at preventing Hamas from doing just that. It’s a purely offensive weapon with no defensive purpose, and Palestinians love it. An enterprising Gaza merchant even named a perfume after it two years ago, when it was first deployed, and Reuters reported that sales promptly soared.
It all adds up to this bottom line:  No matter who is in charge in Gaza their ultimate goal will be the destruction of Israel and the death of the Jews and anyone who doesn’t understand this is deluding themselves.
Joe’s primary worry is a Hamas victory in the PR department but that really can’t be helped due to the simple fact that Israel given the choice of destroying their enemies or containing them has chosen the more difficult containment option which does occasionally involves  destroying the arabs  ability to shoot at them and that Hamas given the choice between live Palestinians and dead ones that harm Israel’s reputation will choose dead ones every single time.
Until Palestinian and islamic culture changes that’s simply how it is.

Mr Ford Well… er… you’re a rich man.
Charman Knebter: Yes, I am. Yes. Yes, very very rich. Quite phenomenally wealthy. Yes, I do own the most startling quantifies of cash. Yes, quite right… you’re rather a smart young lad aren’t you. We could do with somebody like you to feed the pantomime horse. Very smart.

Monty Python’s Flying Circus Blood Devastation Death War & Horror 1972

I turned on Morning Joe this morning and while I was impressed at the entire table (except Al Hunt) insisting that the IRS scandal was a test for the press (a refreshing change) but while that is important what really caught my was Joe & Mike on Hillary insistence that she really isn’t rich.

Joe was quoting a high-ranking Democrat about tone deafness and said the problem was Hillary has spent her last 40 years having someone else wait on them and get her coffee.

As this is going on Mika suddenly turn behind her and starts ordering coffee in excruciating detail, while on a split screen Mark Halperin is trying his best not to crack up.

this caught my eye because my non-political son was in the room as he was getting ready for work, saw this and was cracking up.

I turned to him and expressed surprise, he doesn’t watch the news and only knows Morning Joe in passing from me watching it.

His answer was classic: You don’t have to follow politics to see what they were doing.

And that is the real crisis for Hillary Clinton, people who don’t follow politics one bit get the absurdity of this (it’s also why the IRS scandal is bad news in the long run for Obama but that’s another piece).

If Hillary Clinton words are causing non-political folks to laugh a her this is going to come back to haunt her.

Closing thought: Does anyone think for one second Bill Clinton would make this mistake?

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As I try to resolve some technical issues for today’s live broadcast Joe Scarborough gave me some time for a quick interview

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It not usual that I lead on a Monday no less with the post for the weekend’s show.

But it’s not every day you have the host of a Morning Show of the big three Cable channels on your show for 45 min.

You can listen to my interview with Joe Scarborough during my first hour (he came in at :15 Here

You can also buy Joe’s book here

If my second hour we had DaMagnificent Panel this week with Chip Jones, Fausta (of my Magnificent Seven) and in the Bob Beckel Chair Mike Hummell the blue barnstormer. You can hear that 2nd Hour here.

And each of my three promoted a particular post.

Fausta’s post is titled It’s not racism, kid, it’s just plain grammar

Ah, for the days of Dean Wormer. . . Students at UCLA’s Graduate School of Education and Information accused a professor of racial discrimination after the professor corrected their grammar:

I hope people will correct these future engineers and Doctors when they screw up in those classes.

Chip’s Post is titled Enhanced Interrogation: Obama Covers Extraordinary Rendition in Benghazi

The picture that is emerging, and being confirmed by sources close to Conservative Reports Online, is that the two Delta operators had delivered a HVT who had been apprehended to the compound. Although there was a large contingent of Green Berets working out of the Compound as their base of operations, the only remaining Green Beret was their “Communications Officer” who reported the attack, in real time, to the appropriate authorities and joined the fray defending the Compound.

Oh boy heads of Obama fans must be blowing up on this

And Mike Hummell piece is Hey #WalmartElves, Shut Up and Get Back to Work!

Elves are not supposed to complain about working conditions. At least not @Walmart. They are supposed to stock the shelves, clean the floors, run the register, and smile like a happy face. But under no circumstances are they to have opinions in public. They definitely don’t need Tumblr or Twitter accounts with which to share their unwanted opinions.

Free speech is free speech, it’s got to be respected

Remember my panel rotates monthly so you’ll have a whole new group next week.

FYI one more thing. I’m sure there are a few people here who are saying What the hell are you doing promoting that Rino Scarborough book? to this lest me say several things:

1. In terms of the show and the blog. No matter what you think of MSNBC or Joe he is the named host of a morning drive show on one of the big three national Cable news shows. That’s a get particularly if you are a guy who five years ago was doing Tech Support and three years ago went on the air first the first time. It says something about this blog and this show.

2. And this is not the first time Joe Scarborough & done this. I’ve hit him and his show hard for YEARS yet he did an interview with me last year on video, and (as he revealed on the show gets my commentaries every week which only goes out to those who who hit DaTipJar). Sicilians never forget a favor.

3. If anyone thinks I’m going to be less conservative or more quiet about my opinions or my agenda you haven’t been paying attention.

Update: One more thought. The thing that most threatens the left are stories breaking through beyond their filter. Conservative blogs are a strong driver for this. There is nothing that legitimizes a news source to low information voters like.

1. Call letters next to a name in the media
2. Acknowledgement by media names recognized by them.

Every time either of those things happen to a conservative blog one more chip is broken off of that wall.
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Q: How do you know the fallout from Obamacare is an absolute disaster?

I still get a lot of readers asking why I watch Morning Joe almost religiously in the AM?

There are many reasons, The show is fun, Mike Barnicle is from my home town (Fitchburg MA), Joe Scarborough & Mika Brzezinski have incredible chemistry, I’ve met & interviewed Joe, Mika, Barnicle and Willie Geist and genuinely like them all and particularly like how they treat their fans. It’s one of the few MSNBC shows that will give a conservative perspective.

But the most important thing is this: As the first morning political show of the day if you want to find out what is the message of the day from the White House/left is this is the place to be.

Today however the lede from Morning Joe was this story.

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

That’s from Lisa Myers of NBC and led the 6 AM segment that is repeated at 8.

When a story it’s so bad that you can’t dodge it and have to lead with it in the hopes of answering it fast and being done with you know you have trouble.

Update: They led the 7 AM hour with this too and did their best to spin it but the real gem was Joe Scarborough cracking up over how much people love us when they tried to throw the NSA stuff on George Bush. When I have the video I’ll put it up.

Update 2: Linked by Stacy who says:

So all those promises — that rates would go down and that people could keep their existing plans — were deliberate lies. And all the conservatives who tried to warn that ObamaCare was doomed to failure were correct. But the liars were all Democrats, and the people who told the truth were all Republicans, so there will be no apologies and no repentance. Instead, they’ll just come up with new lies.

He has been doing some first rate culture war blogging lately.

Here is that video I promised key quote

You’ve got a drone dropping phone tapping president

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