Sir Humphery Appleby: He’s also against oppression and persecution in Africa.

Prime Minister Jim Hacker: So are we.

Sir Humphery Appleby: Yes but he’s against it when practiced by black governments as well as white ones.

Prime Minister Jim Hacker: You mean he’s a racist..

Yes Prime Minister The Bishops Gambit 1986

Yesterday I complemented Mark Steyn for mentioning Molly Norris, the US cartoonist who remains in hiding for offending Islamists.

A second complement is due for his performance at a Canadian debate informing a group of left wing students of the Mass rapes taking place in Europe that our friends in the media and their feminists allies have done their best first to ignore

American feminists, who have incited irrational hysteria over a non-existent “rape epidemic” on U.S. college campuses, will ignore this news. American feminists never said a word about the Rotherham Horror, in which English girls as young as 11 were pimped out by Muslim predators. American feminists don’t want to call attention to certain crimes committed by certain criminals, and it is not just Juanita Broaddrick’s rape accusation against Bill Clinton that feminists demand that we ignore. The feminist movement in the United States is controlled by the Democrat Party, and therefore rape is just a talking-point to them, an “issue” that feminists help Democrats exploit for partisan purposes. Because feminists are dishonest partisans, their agenda requires a lot of deliberate falsification — the phony “1-in-5” statistic, the UVA rape hoax, etc. — and it also requires feminists to ignore a lot of actual rapes which do not fit the Democrat Party-approved propaganda narrative.

and when that wasn’t possible to make taking about the subject verboten

there was no precedent in Germany or the rest of Europe for mass peacetime sexual assaults, much less ones where the police merely look on. “I have never experienced such a thing in any German city,” a victim told the New York Times. But people who did name the attacks for what they were—a manifestation of Muslim misogyny and an alarm bell regarding mass immigration—were vilified as racists. An old-school German feminist, Alice Schwarzer, denounced the New Year’s assaults as a “gang bang” designed to terrorize women; she found herself condemned by other feminists and “antiracists.” Victims refused to give their names to reporters for fear of being pilloried on social media for xenophobia. Specious moral equivalencies poured forth: not only were the attacks a mere subset of everyday Western antifemale violence, but also ordinary citizens connecting those attacks to the out-of-control migrant situation were no different from the attackers themselves. Ralf Jäger, minister of the interior for the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, announced: “What happens on right-wing platforms and in chat rooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women.”.

It’s what made this reply from Steyn so devistating in his debate:

In the end I suspect the root problem between the two cases, Islamic violence against women in the west and the disappearing of Molly Norris is the same.

To acknowledge the rapes in Europe that are the provence of the Islamic immigrants is a problem is to require the need to do something about it, even if it means entering “islamic” areas in the west to enforce law.

The same with Molly Norris, to acknowledge that the threats against her life and safety is a violation of all that America stands for is to admit that those making the threats, Islamists, must be stopped and to further acknowledge that said Islamists have enough sympathiezers in the US to carry out the threats that have ensured Molly Norris doesn’t exist.

Much easier to instead critique white 1st world college students, western cartoonists or states like Georgia and North Carolina where you don’t risk getting your throat cut for attacking them.


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God knows nobody on the left does or cares.

Of all the things that have happened during the Obama years the lack of outrage over what happened to Molly Norris is the thing that , in my opinion, brings more disgrace to us as a nation than any other.

I’m still angry about both what happened to this leftist that I never met and I pray that I never lose that outrage. Because until she can come out of the shadows and live openly in America again we are not a free country.

If you don’t know who Molly Norris is odds are you’re not a regular reader you can find the posts where she is mentioned here.

draw-mohammedAs longtime readers of this blog know I’ve been interested in the case of Molly Norris from the very start:

I call on bloggers today to put up a post proclaiming they remember Molly Norris.

I call on talk radio and Television hosts to mention this anniversary and express their outrage

I call upon our representatives to pass a resolution of outrage over this Fatwa and in support of Molly Norris.

And have stayed angry about it

Every day this stands the first Amendment is desecrated and our rights are become simply words on an old piece of paper. If we don’t fight this and continue to fight it, then not only will we forfeit the rights our forefathers died to bequeath us, but we will have proved ourselves unworthy of those rights.

The failure of the American Public to be outraged over an American Journalist working and living in America forced to go into hiding under an assumed name due to threats from Islamic terrorists is to my mind one should be a matter of personal and Public disgrace to the American People and our media.

Thursday I saw this tweet from Zilla Stevenson

It links to this post at frontpage mag which reminds of this disgrace:

So Molly Norris no longer exists. But whatever name she now goes by, she can’t work as a cartoonist, because a cartoonist’s style is as recognizable as her handwriting – and in any case, what previous work, signed “Molly Norris,” could she submit in applying for jobs? Relatives and friends must worry about meeting with her, or communicating by phone or email, for they have to assume that Muslims determined to find Molly Norris will know who her relatives and friends were before she changed her identity and could conceivably be watching them, hoping they will lead to Molly Norris. She is “in effect, being put into a witness-protection program – except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab.”

How does she survive? With what handful of people does she allow herself to associate? What kind of life must Molly Norris be living if the government provides no support?

But most disturbing of all is how Molly Norris has been essentially abandoned to her fate, and has had both to “disappear herself” and to endure having “disappeared” from the American public’s consciousness.


And suggests one of the candidates for president do something about it:

Imagine that if even one of the candidates were to talk about her, what good he might do. Let’s imagine what he might say:

We no longer have free speech in this country, because those who are most outspoken about Islam have been threatened with death. Many have been scared into silence, and others have had to change their lives.

Take the case of Molly Norris, forced to go into permanent hiding, and to change her identity, because she dared to suggest an “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day” in solidarity with cartoonists in Europe threatened with death for having drawn what we now call MoToons. When she was threatened herself, the most that the American government would do for her was to suggest that she go into hiding. The government did not offer to support her, or to pay for her security: it was “a witness-protection program without the government picking up the tab.”

Now imagine that same candidate brings up the story of Molly Norris at every gathering, forcing the media to report to the broad public what he has to say about her monstrous situation, imprints her story on the public consciousness, causes people to bethink themselves about how our officials have behaved in their insensate determination not to fight but to give in to Muslim threats.

Now the odds of our Democrat friends who will never oppose radical Islam as much as they do republicans are as great as my odds of winning the next Papal election but if either at tonight’s debate or sometime soon one of the GOP candidates, John Kasich, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz or Donald Trump would bring it up tonight, particularly Trump who the villains at CAIR are attacking.  They would do a positive service both for the country and for free speech.


As long as we remain silent on Molly Norris the image above isn’t a net meme, it’s reality.


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My interview with Robert Spencer at YAF Nashua NH

His mention of Molly Norris being on the ISIS hit list should be national news, I’m ashamed to say I didn’t see it.

I’ll be posting the rest of my video from the conference over the next several days

draw-mohammedDo you remember Molly Norris?

She was the Seattle Cartoonist who suggested ” Everybody draw Mohammad Day” to protest the restriction of speech.

It wasn’t long before a FATWA was put out on her, She apologized for her actions but it didn’t matter. As far as radical Islam was concerned she had blasphemed, she went into hiding for fear of her life and remains so to this day.

Nobody in the MSM found that newsworthy enough to care.

This came to mind when I heard about Brendan Eich who was just forced out as CEO of Mozilla 

Eich isn’t another CEO,  he is the man who he created Javascript.

But those credentials were not good enough. You see six years ago he donated $1000 to the campaign to pass Proposition 8 which outlawed Gay Marriage in California or would have if a judge had not overturned it.

That donation when brought to the press brought a roar of media & activist generated uproar.

Mind you Mr. Eich’s position was not unique 7,001,084 voted to pass the law and at the time of his donation he had the  same position on gay marriage as Barack Obama did.

But that didn’t matter so Mozilla today issued this statement on their blog:

Brendan Eich has chosen to step down from his role as CEO. He’s made this decision for Mozilla and our community.

Mozilla believes both in equality and freedom of speech. Equality is necessary for meaningful speech. And you need free speech to fight for equality.

The irony of course being they are saying this while not allowing comments on the post where the announcement takes place.

Figuring out how to stand for both at the same time can be hard.

Actually it’s not hard at all, you simply base your hiring decisions on qualifications nothing more.

But that not the point, it doesn’t matter if 100 like Andrew Sullivan get a sudden pan of conscience or 100,000 like Patterico and Moe Lane uninstall firefox for an alternative browserthis like the Molly Norris case is all about intimidation

the Prop 8 donor list has already been used as a blacklist to ruin other lives and careers.  Vote the wrong way, and the brownshirts come for you, simple as that.

The only difference between the pair is the removal of Mr. Eich was done without threats of violence, but rest assured those days are not far away.

Count on it

Final thought:  If I was a young ambitious lawyer looking for a big payday and publicity I’d find a few Christians in companies like this willing to sue for the creation of a “hostile work environment”.    You will be amazed at how fast the worm will turn once companies realize they are susceptive to such suits from a pool of people who represents 77% of the population of the country.

Update: Byron Preston gets it.

“It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean. They’d go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they’d find the first five guys they saw and they’d crucify them.

“Then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years.”

Update 2: Fausta opines


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Hawkeye:  I’ve known Chingachgook since we both were young. I knew Uncas’ mother. I’ve known Uncas since he was born. Major Heyward. I don’t know you. If we have to fight back to back, it’s possible that you might run. I don’t think you will, but you might. I’ve fought back to back with these Mohicans father and son, and they didn’t run

Last of the Mohicans BBC 1972

draw-mohammedIf you are a long term reader of this blog or a long term listener to my radio show you know the easiest way to get me angry is to get me talking about Molly Norris.

For those of you who don’t know Three years ago Molly Norris was a cartoonist in Seattle whose work appeared regularly in the Seattle Weekly. Her style is not really the type I go for

After the censoring of South Park Episodes by Comedy Central over the inclusion of Mohammad she proposed “Everybody Draw Mohammad Day” in solidarity with the artiest whose lives were in danger.

Oddly enough I was not a fan of Everybody Draws Mohammad day

I have unabashedly declared Islamic killers as barbarians, I will continue to do so. I have condemned the cowardice of Comedy Central. I don’t feel I have anything to prove. In addition I don’t like caricatures of Christ, Mary etc that are unflattering. I want respect for my religion therefore I need to show that same respect. Free speech has to also include freedom to not speak if you don’t want to.

Therefore I am not going to draw Mohammed on May 20th. If you think less of me because of that, so be it…

Immediately afterwards a FATWA was put upon her and the reaction of the “free speech” crowd that was constantly complaining about Bush, was…silence.

It did not end pretty:

You may have noticed that Molly Norris’ comic is not in the paper this week. That’s because there is no more Molly

No she’s not dead

on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, “going ghost”: moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She will no longer be publishing cartoons in our paper or in City Arts magazine, where she has been a regular contributor. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program—except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab. It’s all because of the appalling fatwa issued against her this summer, following her infamous “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day” cartoon.

The anniversary of the fatwa on her passed and almost nobody noticed and three years later Morry Norris is still in hiding.

An American Cartoonist, forced in hiding for exercising her first amendment rights for nearly three years and nobody is objecting, no congressional resolutions, no speeches on the house floor and no stories in the MSM. In my opinion this is a national disgrace.

Which brings us to Brett Kimberlin & Co.

Lee Stranahan reports the following

A photo taken by Brett Kimberlin on Friday, March 1st and quickly posted to the site BreibartUnmasked is the latest in a long series of attempts by convicted felon Kimberlin to attempt to stir up Muslim hatred towards blogger Aaron Walker, apparently as revenge against Mr. Walker for helping another blogger Kimberlin has a long running grudge against.

Walker’s crime: Participating in Everyone Draw Mohammad day. Brett Kimberlin’s crew apparently takes a dim view of supporting the first amendment. Stranahan again:

The editor of BreitbartUnmasked is Kimberlin’s friend Bill Schmalfeldt, who has accusing Walker of hating Muslims more than “he loves his wife”. The site also published a photo of Mr. Walker’s wife.

Mr. Schmalfeldt has also written thinly veiled threats to Mr. Walker, such as this one from a post entitled “Aaron Walker: A Cautionary Tale”:

In the meantime, Aaron Walker sits in front of his spit-flecked computer screen and blogs and tweets about the injustice of it all. But everyone knows he’s a dead man blogging — metaphorically.

This latest photo post by Brett Kimberlin and Bill Schmalfeldt is transparently another further attempt to have free-speech hating lunatics to target Walker.

Mind you the Kimberlin crowd is not doing this because they object to some Muslims being critiqued as murderous barbarian bastards who would kill or threaten a person who objects to Islamic threats. They are doing this specifically because they BELIEVE Muslims to be murderous barbarian bastards who will threaten or harm those who critique them, in fact they’re counting on it!

One might call that racism. I call it a crime against the 1st amendment.

At the time the threats took place against Ms Norris I said the following:

I’m not big into insulting other people’s religions but this needs to be forcibly fought. As for a Fatwa, bring it on, We are AMERICANS! If you come for one of us you come for ALL OF US! You want to kill me? So what! Everybody dies, but I’m not surrendering my 1st Amendment rights that have been given to me as a gift by thousands who fought to preserve them for an extra few days.

Let’s double down. My name is Peter Ingemi. My ancestors came here from Sicily 100 years ago. I am an American and I defy you.

It’s a disgrace that America has forgotten Molly Norris, it’s a bigger disgrace that she is still in hiding for her life due to Islamic extremists.

But the idea that Americans would attempt to use the violence of Radical Islamists to suppress their political enemies 1st Amendment rights is in my mind one of the most loathsome things I’ve seen.

And consider, even the deluded Islamic murderer acts because they think they are serving God, Kimberlin & Co are simply serving their political ends and whatever masters are paying the bill.

Any person who would fight back to back with these men are fools.

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She figured we’d give her up.

or to put it another way:

If you claim to be a fan of free speech and support this administration you are deluding yourself.

Update lets remind everyone what Mitt Romney said on Day One:

“Simply put having an embassy which is, has been breached and has protesters on its grounds having violating the sovereignty of the United States, having that embassy reiterate a statement, effectively apologizing for the right of free speech is not the right course for an Administration.”

The MSM was so anxious to promote what they say as an error, I suspect a video of Mitt Romney defending the 1st Amendment on day one looks a whole lot different when we have film makers in custody effectively for blasphemy against Islam.

Update: The Other McCain has more Chris Cillizaa says the unbelievable:

Mitt Romney, for frittering away a full campaign week when you could least afford it, you had the worst week in Washington. Congrats, or something.

Really Chris? Obama presides over a successful attack on the US on 9/11 and it’s a bad week for Mitt Romney?

Dan Collins: Seriously these people are insane.

It was far easier for you as civilized men to behave like barbarians than it was for them as barbarians to behave like civilized men.

Mr. Spock  Star Trek:  Mirror Mirror 1967

The spreading violence concerning the burning of Korans in Afghanistan for all its death and destruction has a small silver lining, a chance for the International and American Muslim Community and a clarifying moment during the debate about Islam vs Radical Islam.

Let’s stipulate right up front that as both a strategic and a PR matter it was an error for the Army to burn those Korans or to let the news of it come out…

..but having so stipulated now the question comes. What is the proper response for such an act?

I suggest that riots, burning and murder is not. In fact I more than suggest it, I state it as a simple fact that they are acts of barbarism.

I have seen a lot of coverage of the various riots and murders concerning this matter, I’ve seen them in the press and heard them on the radio. I’ve furthermore heard person after person critique the actions of the Army but I’ve heard very few in our media critique the murder and barbarism that have followed it.

This, like the Mohammad cartoon business clarifies things tremendously.

Muslims have naturally condemned the burning of Korans as an insult to their religion. That is certainly not odd. When professor PZ Myers desecrated consecrated communion hosts publicly Catholics were outraged and complained loudly, both in the press and to him employer the University of Minnesota.

Meanwhile while Molly Norris, a US citizen who even after apologizing for her part in “Everybody Draw Mohammad Day” remains in hiding under an assumed name for fear of her life, Professor Myers remains unharmed, unhurt and unafraid in his employment prospects. In fact not only has he not been harmed, but no Catholic Leader, no priest nor Bishop would countenance any type of violence against this man.

Yet during the Mohammad cartoon business we didn’t see the same from our friends of the Islamic faith. We don’t see American Muslim groups calling for the ending of the Fatwa on Molly Norris nor a promise to protect her from violence if she comes out of hiding. In fact one might even point out that the one sect of Islam that has eschewed violence (the Ahmadiyya Muslim community) has not only been the target of discrimination worldwide but has actually been targeted by violence and bombings for their beliefs.

Now the Islamic world has yet another chance to redeem itself. Will we see Islamic groups worldwide condemn the violence? Will they do so in Arabic and in the native languages of the people committing the violence so it will not be just pulling an Arafat, that is saying one thing in English for the west and another in Arabic?

Will Muslims disavow this attacks as mainstream Christians disavowed the actions and tactics Westboro Baptist (regardless of their position on Homosexuality) will they like the Bishops of the Catholic Church be defiant in the face of Administration policy without violence? Or will they decide the reward system that Glenn Reynolds wrote about here is more valuable:

Reader Dustin F writes: “If Colbert did a Zombie Mohammed sketch, Comedy Central wouldn’t even air it anyway, given their censorship of South Park. These folks have zero credibility on the subject of tolerating offense, since Comedy Central’s compliance with threats is a major example of allowing terrorism to work.”

My advice to Mormons and others: If you want respect, behead a few people. It won’t take much violence, as long as the threat is credible. Though it helps if they see you as an enemy of Western civilization. Then they’ll enjoy being intimidated.

That’s the real question, is the ability to intimidate one’s foes valuable enough that barbarism is to remain uncondemned and encouraged. Does western Islam really want to be considered a “religion of Peace” or is it just talk to keep liberals in the media quiet?

Or to be more blunt. While the Muslims rioters are either civilized men behaving like Barbarians due to anger or Barbarians acting like Barbarians. the verdict on the West’s Muslims is still out:
Are they Civilized men or Barbarians?

If they are barbarians trying to behave like civilized men we should expect some kind of toothless statement in English, if however they are civilized men as they maintain then the willingness to strongly and forthrightly condemn these actions in languages of those rioting should be there and ought to be done. in fact one might think it should have already been done.

The ball is in your court Muslims of the west, what shall it be?

BTW the reaction of the Mainstream media has already rendered it’s verdict on the question.

They believe the Muslims in Afghanistan are barbarians acting like barbarians. They don’t expect better so they don’t waste their breath to say a word. Meanwhile their unwillingness to question call on the west’s Muslims to speak against the violence coupled with their previous actions concerning the Mohammad Cartoons and their silence on Molly Norris suggests they believe the west’s Muslim’s are barbarians pretending to be civilized men and are afraid of angering them for fear of their own lives.

That makes the MSM by their own standards, both racists and cowards.

While I was writing this Doug Mataconis wrote the following piece that answered one of the questions asked here:

Even without the Koran burning incident, though, I have got to wonder why anyone would think that this “stabilization” mission would succeed to begin with. Dave Schuler puts it best in a post over at his own site:

We’ve done our best to make the Afghans prosperous. Clearly, they would much rather that we leave so they can go back to killing and abusing each other without whatever hindrance that we provide. The difference between us and the Taliban can be summarized succinctly: the Taliban cuts off young women’s ears and noses and leaves them for dead; we restore those noses and ears and try to heal their scars.

And in return all we get is hatred and attacks. Really, what’s the point anymore? Why are we bothering to try to civilize a nation that clearly is either incapable of being civilized or simply just doesn’t want to join the 21st Century?

Read his whole piece

Update 2: Some desecrated Korans are apparently more equal than others.

Update 3:
Doug Made a point in his piece but a question, if England pulled out because they considered India “Barbarians” would widows still be thrown into funeral pyres via sutte or sati

Update 4: Tangential, but telling quote from Jay Nordlinger’s latest piece

The U.S. Army, using Black Hawk helicopters, has been dropping food, medicine, and livestock feed to people stranded in the mountains of Montenegro, which have been socked with snow. (Story here.) Nice to know our soldiers have taken a break from killing babies and wiping themselves with Korans to help the hungry.

One of the helicopter pilots compared his work in Montenegro with his work in Afghanistan: “There, we were getting shot at.”

Me, I think the greatest fear of the barbarians rioting over burning Korans is that we successfully educate and empower women over there. Oh and one thing about Nordlinger, I still think he’s awesome even thought he hits Santorum a lot, everyone is allowed a fault or two.

Update 5: The BBC answers the question too:

But he also revealed that producers had to consider the possibilities of ‘violent threats’ instead of polite complaints if they pushed ahead with certain types of satire.

Mr Thompson said: ‘Without question, “I complain in the strongest possible terms”, is different from, “I complain in the strongest possible terms and I am loading my AK47 as I write”. This definitely raises the stakes.’

In other words, the BBC considers British Muslims Barbarians and British Christians civilized, does that make them religious bigots? Cowards or both. I’m going with both.

If there is one constant at CPAC for me year after year it is that the event I least wish to miss is my friend Pam Geller’s.

This year was no exception but I found myself running late and literally running up the hill to try and get there on time. When I finally figured out where the McKinney Room was I had to talk my way into it because there was simply no room and I only come in wide body.

As usual the speakers were incredible,

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My plan was actually to film the speaker but Robert was making such important points that it was important not to miss them

One thing about this video, I point out that when this case was won, it was won before a Dearborn jury. That is a very hopeful sign (yes I still have hope).

Because I didn’t have my laptop I couldn’t switch out my video card so I had only limited video capability. But I was able to interview some of the other speakers at different times such as J. Christian Adams:

Who I interviewed with his wife the next day in the bloggers lounge:

There was a Q & A afterwards and a rather spectacular looking woman told a story of an interesting encounter at CPAC, I ran into her later in the day and only then found out that she Ann Marie Murrell and associated with Victoria Jackson and a new group called Politichicks.

May I be so bold as to suggest that Roxeanne De Luca would be an incredible addition to “Politichicks” but I digress.

At the end of the Q & A I was able to bring up Molly Norris and was surprised at how many there didn’t know her story.

If you want to seem my posts on it (the Molly Norris Story) they are here here here here here and here oh and here.

It seemed to impress some people because a woman from Sun TV Canada pulled me aside and interviewed me on camera, (still looking for the video). The publicity for me is good to make a living but I’ll trade it for a story on that network about Molly Norris 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.

There is more coverage of Pam’s event at her site and also here and here

I include the photos I took after the jump:
Continue reading “The Pam Geller event at CPAC”

What can you say when you see something like this:

What’s most amazing is that its citizens will not merely refrain from objecting, but will stand and cheer the U.S. Government’s new power to assassinate their fellow citizens, far from any battlefield, literally without a shred of due process from the U.S. Government. Many will celebrate the strong, decisive, Tough President’s ability to eradicate the life of Anwar al-Awlaki — including many who just so righteously condemned those Republican audience members as so terribly barbaric and crass for cheering Governor Perry’s execution of scores of serial murderers and rapists — criminals who were at least given a trial and appeals and the other trappings of due process before being killed.

I thought the left was insisting we were at war with Al Qaeda instead of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc etc etc. You would think that killing leaders of Al-Qaeda would work for them? Cripes even Andrew Sullivan still gets it:

My own position is that we are at war, and that avowed enemies and traitors in active warfare against the US cannot suddenly invoke legal protections from a society they have decided to help destroy.

I’ll wager Greenwald and Firedoglake would not have been crying over Winston Wood Bolt.

He also brings up something near and dear to me:

to remove one important propaganda source of that movement has made all of us safer. And those Americans who have lived under one of Awlaki’s murderous fatwas can breathe more easily today.

I guess that means he will never take me up on my formal request to be included in the FATWA against Molly Norris. Does that mean she can come out of hiding? I sure hope so.

This about it, Andrew Sullivan has a clearer view of the situation than the MSM does. You don’t get much worse than that.

Exit question: Would the left have deployed Human Shields to protest Anwar Al-Awlaki and would that have stopped us from blowing him up?

Update: No you should not be insulted Stacy. Mr. Al-Awlaki and Mr. Bolt were born in the United States and were members of organizations at war with the United States, but that’s where the similarities end. Mr. Winston Wood Bolt fought under the articles of war only engaging soldiers until his capture but because he fought for the confederacy I suspect that the same people who are beating their breasts over Al-Awlaki would likely have much less mercy for Mr. Bolt.

Update 2: Glenn not Greg fixed